I need some advice on this.

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam

 

Hello to all:

 

I was invited to a group that is called Anusara Yoga, or Iyengar

Yoga, so I asked about it, and told them that I was in KY, they told

me that the only difference is that in the KY we put more attention

to the chakras, and that they make the universal energy flow without

putting attention to the chakras. They told me that they were a

branch of Hatha Yoga, but different, that they make a lot of asanas,

but " feeling " the energy, so she told me that it was the same thing,

but they never put attention to any chakra. My question would be, if

the Kundalini is just to open the chakras like they said? I feel the

energy flow all over my body, healing, rising and getting down again,

like a circuit.Why many of the different Yoga practices are like

against the Kundalini ? it happens also with the Jhanas, they say

that the K energy must awake alone, without forcing it to " awake "

Well I'm a little confused about it, altough my only interest is the

KY.

 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Sat Nam

Neli

[Guest guest]

Dear Neli, As a practitioner and teacher of souly Kundalini Yoga, I

lean towards promoting KY similar to the people who you encountered

that were promoting Iyengar and Anusara. The main stream yoga styles

all have benefits, otherwise why would people attend classes? The

styles all have something to offer and different souls are gravitated

to one or another style depending on their experience and how they

felt after...blissful, relaxed, stretched out, stronger, chakra

effect, universal energy flow, sacred space, sore/not sore,

enlightened. The list goes on.

 

In addition to their experience, other factors come into play in

choosing a style, it might be about whether they enjoyed the teacher,

charismatic?, charming?, funny?, old?, young? shallow?, gave them a

soul experience?, harsh?, weird?, intellectual/educated?, uplifting?

encouraging?, in shape or not?, gave a challenging enough yoga set? or

not?, too spiritual?, did they feel the teacher rubbed their ego the

wrong way? poked, provoked, confronted & elevated? or provided just

another spiritually hollow Barbie yoga experience? The list goes on.

 

Many times it's word of mouth that brings people together in class and

sometimes the social opportunities in class can influence a new

student's attendance. Who else is doing it? their

friends/acquaintances? young people or old fogies? Were they were they

able to connect to the other students in class? did they feel the love

or did they feel alone inside the group? was there a clique inside

the group that turned them off? was it social enough for them? See

social suggestions at the bottom. The list goes on here too.

 

There is no need to put down one yoga style over another. Whether a

student or teacher, people are just trying to sell the style they've

invested time/$$$ in over another . Because I'm a KY teacher and it's

my basic livelihood, I always say Kundalini Yoga rules when I'm trying

to sell it too. In addition, I might say that it gives you a state

nirvana faster than other yoga styles, releases stress on the deepest

levels possible and works the fastest to shift and elevate one's

awareness, it's the yoga of awareness and that Hatha is contained

within Kundalini, so why go any further. Sometimes I will also let

people know that they might not be ready for the shift in awareness

that Kundalini Yoga offers, but given time, a development of their

yoga practice, new mindful breathing habits, the acknowledgment and

cleansing of their soul's karma and the ability to give up/surrender

old ways of mental processing the shift comes easier. With change

comes work. Most of that is true, but it's also a sales pitch to get

them to buy it. What I'm just trying to say there is that for

teachers it can be just as much of a business as it is a yoga practice

and just got a bit a carried away. Blessings and good luck, Atma Kaur

 

P.S. Ways to get people to connect socially before or after yoga could

be to serve yogi tea, play a game, eat together, laugh together,

celebrate birthdays with cookies together. The list can be as

creative as you are.

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " neli_nelis " <neli_nelis

wrote:

>

> Sat Nam

>

> Hello to all:

>

> I was invited to a group that is called Anusara Yoga, or Iyengar

> Yoga, so I asked about it, and told them that I was in KY, they told

> me that the only difference is that in the KY we put more attention

> to the chakras, and that they make the universal energy flow without

> putting attention to the chakras. They told me that they were a

> branch of Hatha Yoga, but different, that they make a lot of asanas,

> but " feeling " the energy, so she told me that it was the same thing,

> but they never put attention to any chakra. My question would be, if

> the Kundalini is just to open the chakras like they said? I feel the

> energy flow all over my body, healing, rising and getting down again,

> like a circuit.Why many of the different Yoga practices are like

> against the Kundalini ? it happens also with the Jhanas, they say

> that the K energy must awake alone, without forcing it to " awake "

> Well I'm a little confused about it, altough my only interest is the

> KY.

>

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Sat Nam

> Neli

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

IMO, I think that many hatha yogis don't really know what Kundalini

yoga is or they think they do, but not really. Perhaps you can

explain this wonderful practice to people when they offer negative

opinions. Also one caveat, Anusara yoga and Iyengar yoga are two

different types of hatha yoga. Anusara was started by John Friend,

an Iyengar yoga teacher who wanted a yoga practice that focused on

alignment with more spirituality. I call Anusara yoga Iyengar with

soul and kindness. (Iyengar yoga teachers are known for being a wee

bit distant) Anusara is a great compliment to my Kundalini yoga

practice. I do both on a regular basis.

 

Blessings

Tej

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In Kundalini-Yoga , " neli_nelis " <neli_nelis

wrote:

>

> Sat Nam

>

> Hello to all:

>

> I was invited to a group that is called Anusara Yoga, or Iyengar

> Yoga, so I asked about it, and told them that I was in KY, they

told

> me that the only difference is that in the KY we put more attention

> to the chakras, and that they make the universal energy flow

without

> putting attention to the chakras. They told me that they were a

> branch of Hatha Yoga, but different, that they make a lot of

asanas,

> but " feeling " the energy, so she told me that it was the same

thing,

> but they never put attention to any chakra. My question would be,

if

> the Kundalini is just to open the chakras like they said? I feel

the

> energy flow all over my body, healing, rising and getting down

again,

> like a circuit.Why many of the different Yoga practices are like

> against the Kundalini ? it happens also with the Jhanas, they say

> that the K energy must awake alone, without forcing it to " awake "

> Well I'm a little confused about it, altough my only interest is

the

> KY.

>

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Sat Nam

> Neli

>

[Guest guest]

I enjoyed this discussion about Kundalini yoga vs other yogas based on

the invite to the Anusara group. I totally agree with Tej that many

non-Kundalini yoga practitioners(teachers) just don't get it and make

comments like the chakra one only on what they have heard! I have been

involved in KY for almost 25 years now and until 1999 was tunnel

vision KY until Guru Dev told me in a session with him that I needed

to be more physically integrated. Thereupon my journey into other

yogas began and I, like Tej, now have another practice to complement

and strengthen my Kundalini practice. I do Mysore Ashtanga at Eddie

Stern's studio in NYC 3 times a week and have done some Iyengar with

Genny Kapuler and also other teachers like Rodney Yee, Ana Forrest,

Rod Stryker, John Friend and less known teachers as well. I agree

there is no reason to put down other forms of yoga, though sometimes

that can be a challenge if you personally did not dig it or the

teacher! For a while I wondered if I was less loyal to Kundalini as I

got requests to teach other forms of yoga and positive responses, But

now I realize this is my path and I can share what I know and even

lead others to try something new! They can take it or leave it,

whatever the form. And now that Golden Bridge (thanks to Hari) has

given me the opportunity to teach KY in its full pure form I feel like

things have come full circle!

 

The main thing is to serve, keep learning and practicing and keep

sharing from the highest place in ourselves that we can.

 

Sat Nam!

 

Amrita/Donna Davidge

www.sewallhouse.com

Maine

Sewall House Yoga Retreat is open June 16-Columbus day, Oct 15

We are already booked with a return trip with the lovely Shakta Kaur

Khalsa and a group of her trainees Aug 8-17 but would love to see any

of you who would be interested in a morning " hatha " based practice,

afternoon Kundalini with live music for the chants by my husband Kent

Bonham, a lovely lake and cabin nearby, sweet private rooms with a Bed

and Breakfast feel at any other time that we have availability!..oh,

and great vegetarian food too! (and, of course, the original yogi

tea). We were grateful to be listed in the most recent 3HO online

newsletter under Additional Resources! ( see Maine).

[Guest guest]

Dear Atma KaurI agree with you totally. I'm more prone to KY than Hatha Yoga. Many of the times I have founded that Hatha or anothers Yoga's schools are only business. What I can´t understand is why the teachers or gurus, avoid the name Kundalini, as if it were something that they don't like, or as if it is something that is from the chakras and not ot the yoga, I have felt that they look at the Kundalini with despise. That have left me apart, so I meditate alone without a teacher, and when I try to get in a meditation group, I think I don't fit there, not even with Guru Mayi, that its supposed that they work with the ShaktiPat.People in groups are kind when one thinks or acts like them, but when not, they are

indifferent.Thanks for your replyNeli

[Guest guest]

TejI think the same, but I will try with this group, I think they mingle the Anusara with the Iyengar Yoga, they told me that they feel the energy with each posture, but when I asked about the Kundalini they were like "that is not important, that is from the chakra people"I'll try this and try to figure out why they are dismissing the Kundalini yoga and put it as something of the chakras.Thanks for your replyNeli

[Guest guest]

How many Kundalini Yogi's practice other forms of yoga?

 

Amar Atma Singh, does have the ability to do survey's?

 

With all this talk about the " truth " and what " experts say " ...we could discover

a little about

ourselves as a discussion group. Perhaps like Amrita there may be lots more

integration in

our future.

 

I just read Microtrends: The Small Forces Behind Tomorrow's Big Changes by Mark

Penn

where he describes some of the " little " trends that are affecting or may affect

the " whole " . I

understand he believes that as little as 1% creates a major shift.

[Guest guest]

Neli, That is interesting - perhaps people are a bit confused about

the term Kundalini. I suppose it's a matter of you educating them

about what it is. Just keep letting them know that Kundalini Yoga

contains movements, asanas, postures with the physical aspect being

similar to that of other yoga styles and in addition yogic breathing

and meditations techniques are taught. Also it might be to your

benefit to hang with Kundalini Yogis whenever you can. Are you

trained in teaching Kundalini Yoga yet? If not, I can find you a

training without a problem. That way you can delve deeper into the

teachings, get the best understanding possible and once trained you

can build your own Kundalini Yoga community. It will be the biggest

blessing in your life. Sat Nam. Atma Kaur

 

Kundalini-Yoga , neli neilim <neli_nelis wrote:

>

> Dear Atma Kaur

>

> I agree with you totally. I'm more prone to KY than Hatha Yoga. Many

of the times I have founded that Hatha or anothers Yoga's schools are

only business. What I can´t understand is why the teachers or gurus,

avoid the name Kundalini, as if it were something that they don't

like, or as if it is something that is from the chakras and not ot the

yoga, I have felt that they look at the Kundalini with despise. That

have left me apart, so I meditate alone without a teacher, and when I

try to get in & nbsp; a meditation group, I think I don't fit there, not

even with Guru Mayi, that its supposed that they work with the ShaktiPat.

> People in groups are kind when one thinks or acts like them, but

when not, they are indifferent.

>

> Thanks for your reply

>

> Neli

>

[Guest guest]

Neli,

 

Instead of practicing kundalini yoga alone, why don't you follow Yogi

Bhajan's advice and practice in a group, by clicking the " teacher

directory " at www.3ho.org? Almost every state in the U.S., and many

worldwide countries, have KRI certified teachers.

 

Blessings,

Amar Atma

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , neli neilim <neli_nelis

wrote:

>

....so I meditate alone without a teacher,...>

> Neli

>

[Guest guest]

If allow polls, I'll need a techie to answer that

question. My tech skills end at blogging (and I hope yogis do check

out my rantings, at http://dcflow.gaia.com/blog).

 

Without question, Sat Ganesha, I think you're right in what you say,

about the incredible incluence of an inspired few.

 

Sat nam,

Amar Atma

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " satganesha " <satganes

wrote:

>

> How many Kundalini Yogi's practice other forms of yoga?

>

> Amar Atma Singh, does have the ability to do survey's?

>

> With all this talk about the " truth " and what " experts say " ...we

could discover a little about

> ourselves as a discussion group. Perhaps like Amrita there may be

lots more integration in

> our future.

>

> I just read Microtrends: The Small Forces Behind Tomorrow's Big

Changes by Mark Penn

> where he describes some of the " little " trends that are affecting

or may affect the " whole " . I

> understand he believes that as little as 1% creates a major shift.

>

[Guest guest]

Atma Kaur

 

I don't understand why a teacher of Iyengar or Anusara, put aside the Kundalini energy as something of the "chakras". Many people doesn't understand what it is, until I tell them that is a kind of yoga practice. I am not a teacher, I am just a practitioner of the KY.

I know that the Kundalini has the practices of the asanas, postures and more, actually is very similar to another Yogas, with the difference that we are getting up the energy and the awareness. Although I have been in the Siddha Yoga before, its not the same energy, the Shaktipat in the Siddha yoga acts in a different way, at least I felt it different, I think that the Kundalini is more intense and the other one is more sweet.

I am going to take some classes of the Anusara, maybe it can help me to move the energy more, cause I feel it like lazy.

 

Sat Nam

 

Neli

 

 

[Guest guest]

C.F.

 

I live in a very small town, and the only place that have some kind of yoga is half hour from here, and is the Iyengar Yoga, that's the why I meditate alone, also I am very prone to the KY.

 

Sat Nam

Neli

[Guest guest]

Instead of practicing kundalini yoga alone, why don't you follow Yogi

> Bhajan's advice and practice in a group,

> >

>

 

Sat Nam,

 

What did Yogi Bhajan say about taking classes when the cost of the

gasoline is more than the cost of the class? Times are changing and so

are the needs of the students. Classes need to be offered in a

different way. Can people pool resources and do SKYPE classes? Are

online classes being offered somewhere so that at least we can feel

that we are a part of them? How about public television classes.

 

I do not understand the closed attitude that I see expressed on this

forum and other places regarding non-teachers. The higher gasoline

prices go, the more people are not going to go to a class. Can't

afford it. I don't think this is a temporary. Has anyone ever taken a

survey to find out how many people world wide practice alone right now?

 

I live on a fixed income, cost of living increase ever year is $13,

two weeks ago $30 bought 7 gals of gasoline (heard it is going up),

all the teachers live in out of the way parts of Seattle WA (in fact

as far as I know there are only 3 open Sadhanas in the entire state),

driving long twisting roads to get to 2 different freeways, wrestle

with bumper to bumper traffic and then pay $80 for a set of classes

combine that with overwhelming fatigue and a physical weakness that

doesn't even let me out of the house most days, I can't afford it. And

Now, I can add in the stress of learning techie language and a bunch

of other things I did not consider when I opened my website to the

public.

 

ha ha the jokes on me ha ha

 

Sat Avtar kaur