sodarshan

[Guest guest]

I have recently had a few breakthroughs with sodarshan chakra kriya.

One of them has been peace of mind. However, I can't ever seem to be

able to stand at ease with determining its exact posture.

My question is in regards to pumping. In the book Meditation as

Medicine, Dr. Khalsa advices to pump the navel 3 times for each syllable.

Unlike Dr. Khalsa, or perhaps being more specific than Khalsa, Yogi

Bhajan in his book THE MIND, specifies that with each pump you don't

release the pump, but you make it tighter with each syllable and

release on roo (of wha hey gu roo. Is the latter the correct form of

pumping?(please notice that this regards only to pumping, not breath

control)

[Guest guest]

I have recently had a few breakthroughs with sodarshan chakra kriya.One of them has been peace of mind. However, I can't ever seem to beable to stand at ease with determining its exact posture.My question is in regards to pumping. In the book Meditation asMedicine, Dr. Khalsa advices to pump the navel 3 times for each syllable.Unlike Dr. Khalsa, or perhaps being more specific than Khalsa, YogiBhajan in his book THE MIND, specifies that with each pump you don'trelease the pump, but you make it tighter with each syllable andrelease on roo (of wha hey gu roo. Is the latter the correct form ofpumping?(please notice that this regards only to pumping, not breathcontrol)Sat NamHave you seen yogi bhajan demonstrating a version of it; he does it with no navel pumping at all, butstresses putting the sound at the navel, which seems to me is the basic sense of it, get Wahe Guru in your navel instead of all the other stuff!!Also, i was once reading from the Guru, when i came across a passage which set out that repeating wahe guru 16times on a held in breath would bring you many benefits (can't remember exactly the text, but it was lots of good stuff).The video is on gurmukh's site: http://store.goldenbridgeyoga.com/?main_page=infopages2 & pages_id=72Har Hari KaurSukhmani CentreCambridgeUK

[Guest guest]

As far as I understand it, the pumping is 3 times per wahe guru, not per syllable. It's one pump for 'wa', one for 'he', and one for 'guru'. You'll hear many people give their own personal way of doing the pumping. One common thing you'll hear is that you're to pump in on 'gu' and release the navel on 'ru'. I've not been able to find this direction anywhere, and I think it's a case of somebody putting their personal method out there as if that's the way it was taught. Yogiji did teach on the video that was mentioned with no mention whatsoever of pumping. Compared to what he said later about sodarshan, the video is a really sloppy presentation of a very high kriya. When somebody started teaching SCK wrong sometime around 2001, YB came out with a precise statement saying how the meditation is to be done, and that was published, I believe, in prosperity paths newsletter at the time. As for it being a treatment for depression, I would definitely recommend against it. My experience with SCK is that it can bring up some very powerful emotions, including anger. Sat Kriya would be much better, I believe. At a conference of psychologists in Rome in 1989, Yogiji had a depressed and suicidal patient who was presented to him do sat kriya for 2.5. hours a day for 5 days to get him out of it. I would recommend 31 min a day for at least 40 days, if not 90, for depressed mood. hope this helps, -Baba Singh

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam dear Kundalini Yoga teachers and practitioners,

 

It appears that there is more than one version of So Darshan Chakra Kriya

in circulation. Nam Kaur checked with Yogi Bhajan, and he clearly confirmed

that there is only one version of So Darshan Chakra Kriya. The correct

description is included below. Here is what our Teacher had to say about it

in Gurdwara on Sunday, December 22nd, 2002:

 

" Now, most powerful and beautiful is So Darshan Chakra Kriya. I thought

that I have taught for so many years, now people are ready for it. We

didn't start teaching it the first day. For me (I do not know about anyone

else) it took 30 years to be able to control my left and right nostrils

without holding them with my fingers. And I still do that sometimes when I

feel very weak - I use my hand and fingers. Somebody can say, " Switching

nostrils is not needed since the air coming through the right nostril and

the left nostril meets. " We shall not take any responsibility for such

wrong practices! What the hell is one creating? Disturbing the pituitary,

the master command gland? These kinds of jokes will end by themselves, but

it will be dangerous for those who practice it wrong. There is nothing in

the teachings which are not clearly stated and which have not worked

accurately.

 

IKYTA often receives questions from teachers about the science of Kundalini

Yoga, asking if it is okay to substitute or delete exercises in a kriya, or

teach only one part of a three-part meditation, etc. IKYTA has even been

asked if it is okay to teach a Kundalini Yoga meditation in a Hatha Yoga

class! Yogi Bhajan explained that this is not permissible, that Kundalini

Yoga should not be mixed with other forms of yoga, and kriyas should not be

changed in any way, except to shorten the times of the exercises if

desired.

 

I'll pass on another direct quote from Yogi Bhajan which says it best:

 

" The Teachings are the Teachings, and have no one's personality in them. I

never edit them; you should not edit them. It is a Golden Chain. My own

prayer is that you can perfect what it is, and go with it. It is a funny

thing. It is a three thousand year old proven path - it's not going to

stop. Why do you want to add or subtract something - to satisfy your ego or

convince students? It is very deceitful on the part of a teacher to teach

teachings to please people. So honestly give people what we have. Teach

like me. Teach exactly as it is. If you are not going to teach Kundalini

Yoga purely, then don't teach it at all. With Kundalini Yoga you are

dealing with the life force of the atom. Don't play with the pranic

energy. "

 

 

Sodarshan Chakra Kriya as taught by Yogi Bhajan (8/91 Espanola, N.M. and

12/12/90 Formello, Italy)

 

 

" Of all the 20 types of yoga, including Kundalini Yoga, this is the highest

Kriya. This meditation cuts through all darkness. It will give you a new

start. It is the simplest Kriya, but at the same time the hardest. It cuts

through all barriers of the neurotic or psychotic inside-nature. When a

person in a very bad state, techniques imposed from the outside will not

work. The pressure has to be stimulated from within. Tragedy of life is

when the subconscious releases garbage into the conscious mind. This Kriya

invokes the Kundalini to give you the necessary vitality and intuition to

combat the negative effects of the subconscious mind. "

 

Mudra: Sit with a straight spine:

a. Block off the right nostril with the right thumb. Inhale slowly and

deeply through the left nostril. Hold the breath. Mentally chant " Wha Hay

Guroo " 16 times. Pump the navel point 3 times with each repetition, once on

" Wha " , once on " Hay " , and once on " Guroo " – for a total of 48 unbroken

pumps.

 

b. Unblock the right nostril. Place the right index finger (pinkie finger

can also be used) to block off the left nostril, and exhale slowly and

deeply through the right nostril.

 

c. Continue.

 

Eyes: At the tip of the nose. (So Darshan Chakra Kriya is not to be done

with the eyes closed.)

 

End of Meditation: Inhale, hold 5-10 seconds, and exhale. Then stretch and

shake every part of your body for about 1 minute, so that the energy can

spread.

 

Time Constraints: There is no time, no place, no space, and no condition

attached to this mantra. Each garbage point has its own time to clear. If

you are going to clean your own garbage, you must estimate and clean it as

fast as you can, or as slow as you want. You have to decide how much time

you have to clean up your garbage pit, but start practicing slowly - the

slower the better. Start with five minutes a day, and gradually build the

time to either 31 or 62 minutes. Maximum time is 2 1/2 hours for practice

of this meditation.

 

......G

[Guest guest]

it's always a pleasant experience to see yogi bhajan on tape. So the

purpose of wha hey guru is not exactly to pump the stomach but to

" make " the sound in the stomach. That is almost another perspective.

But I will stick to the explanation in yogiji's book " the mind " Thanks

for your help

 

Kundalini-Yoga , harharikaur <harharikaur

wrote:

>

> I have recently had a few breakthroughs with sodarshan chakra kriya.

> One of them has been peace of mind. However, I can't ever seem to be

> able to stand at ease with determining its exact posture.

> My question is in regards to pumping. In the book Meditation as

> Medicine, Dr. Khalsa advices to pump the navel 3 times for each

> syllable.

> Unlike Dr. Khalsa, or perhaps being more specific than Khalsa, Yogi

> Bhajan in his book THE MIND, specifies that with each pump you don't

> release the pump, but you make it tighter with each syllable and

> release on roo (of wha hey gu roo. Is the latter the correct form of

> pumping?(please notice that this regards only to pumping, not breath

> control)

>

> Sat Nam

>

> Have you seen yogi bhajan demonstrating a version of it; he does it

> with no navel pumping at all, but

> stresses putting the sound at the navel, which seems to me is the

> basic sense of it, get Wahe Guru

> in your navel instead of all the other stuff!!

> Also, i was once reading from the Guru, when i came across a passage

> which set out that repeating

> wahe guru 16times on a held in breath would bring you many benefits

> (can't remember exactly the text, but it

> was lots of good stuff).

> The video is on gurmukh's site:

>

> http://store.goldenbridgeyoga.com/?main_page=infopages2 & pages_id=72

>

> Har Hari Kaur

> Sukhmani Centre

> Cambridge

> UK

>