Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 I know many of you have read from this site. I read it back even before any of these " plagues " were taking place, well, at least not on the scale they are recently. People were saying these things would never happen, but now they are, so I'm convinced it's all legitimate, and that there's more to come.....unfortunately it's real. http://www.theamericannightmare.org/7_PLAGUES__G-G-G.html Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 This website is bizarre to say the least, and completely based in fear mongering techniques. This reality wecall our world is created completely by our thoughts, and at this point, what we are living in and witnessingaround the world is the critical adjustment as we transition from this old way of fear based thinking into a newer and uplifting supportive way of living. To even take the time to read this kind of writing is a pure waste,(yes, I did it!) and now I realize, that my feelings to stay away from that kind of purely negative propaganda arecorrect.I encourage all of us to meditate as much as possible, to clear our own subconsciousness, to be extremely clearabout what it is we really want to see in this world, right here, right now and to focus on that vision. I encourage everyone of us to do all we can to uplift, serve and devote ourselves to uncovering our very highest Self, so that thebetter we know who we are, and what kinds of thought trains continue to travel around in our minds, the better wewill serve all of humanity.Vibrate the highest you can, and when you are aware that you have slipped back into an old fear based thought,use the Magic Mantra to keep you uplifted and spin that mind back around. Ek Ong Kar, Sat Gurprasad, Sat Gurprasad, Ek Ong KarIn love and service,Wahe Guru,Kirpal Kaur Denise Kirpal Kaur Lapides, IKYTA, E-RYT, RYT 500http://www.Divinelightyoga.com410-570-2878"Dedicated to creating a conscious community for spiritual growth and connection."Check website for updates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 SSat Nam, Laura. Thanks for sharing this website. The question is, personally, " What are you going to DO about it? " Do you have any options? What are they? Yogi Bhajan forecast this decades before Vince Diehl. Guru Gobind Singh forecast it 3 centuries ago. The classic Mayans forecast a hell cycle to encompass Indigenous America, to last from 1475 until 1995, as a run-up to be relieved with real Indigenous knowledge just 16 years prior to the completion of the Nine Evolutionary Underworlds of Creation. The longest running underworld, mathematically pristine in its calculation, started 16.4 billion years ago. The shortest one, will begin in 2011 and last for 260 days. It will make people crazy. That's why we're the yogis, the Sevadars, the healers and the compassionate ones to uplift the humanity in the face of impossible circumstance. The most current cycle started in 1999, and will last 12.8 years. We're in the thick of it now. It's generally translated as a Galactic phase wherein industrial capitalism goes global and attempts to impose the hegemony of a monetary debt slavery system, corporate security police state, on the entire planet. The current Olympics is window dressing for the most dressed up police state on the planet. The US Olympic track and field trials were held here in Eugene Oregon a month ago. I walked with the Tibetans as we circumambulated the stadium. I carried a large Tibetan flag, for the benefit of all beings. The WTO just collapsed a few days ago. Thank our lucky stars for that. The diseases are overwhelming but they are not invincible, and they are not undying. Truth is invincible and Truth is undying (Akal). So live the Truth and be the remedy. Fire is also a purifier. Unpleasant but a fact of life in the gestation of stars and living organisms. We're in the fire now. Which is why I love to open my voice and sing, " Many speak of courage. Speaking cannot give it. It's in the face of Death that we must live it. When things are down and darkest, that's when we stand tallest. Until the last star falls, we won't give an inch at all. Stand as the Khalsa. Strong as steel, steady as stone. Mind and soul, breath and bone. " Can you say that and mean it? If you can, you are the medicine. If we can't, we've got the sickness. Simple, isn't it? Radically simple in the coherent complexity of existence. Requiring a choice. I've posted a graphic rendering of the insightful Mayan mathematical system (based on permutations and combinations of the factors that have enabled a single cell to emerge from the briny seas, form eyeballs, arms, legs, feet and a brain, language evolving into scientific systems that have enabled us to create machines to do our work, and to launch extra-terrestial telescopes capable of seeing back in time to the background radiation of the early moments after the big bang some billions of years ago, WE CONTAIN ALL THE WISDOM OF THIS CREATIVE FIAT, ENGRAVED WITHIN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS. In other words, EVERYTHING IS A MIRACLE, which we systematically degrade into ego consciousness, and thus we have fouled our divine nest. The fire will be breath of fire as we purify our motives, intentions and capabilties, or the external fire of Mother Nature will do the job for us. In either case, purification is coming because the Age of Purity (Khalsa) will happen with us or without us. So when that train leaves the station, will " WE " be on board? This is an old song, coming true. The Mayan Underworld understanding is based on a recent work by Barbara Hand Clow, who based this insight in the work in evolutionary biology and Mayan systems understanding, by Swedish biologist Carl Johan Calleman. It's titled " Mayan Code. " I recommend it. for many Blessings, Krishna Singh Khalsa Kundalini-Yoga , " laura_johnson34 " <laura_johnson34 wrote: > > I know many of you have read from this site. I read it > back even before any of these " plagues " were taking place, > well, at least not on the scale they are recently. People > were saying these things would never happen, but now > they are, so I'm convinced it's all legitimate, and that > there's more to come.....unfortunately it's real. > > http://www.theamericannightmare.org/7_PLAGUES__G-G-G.html > > Laura > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Dear Denise Kirpal Kaur, Here is an alternative way to look at what you saw, coming from your own dear teacher, Yogi Bhajan ji -- " Some day the day will come, when all of the glory shall be Thine. They will say, 'It is yours.' I shall deny, 'Not mine.' " This declaration, directly from the depths of his heart, is direct disproof of your new age notion that " this reality we call our world is created completely by our thoughts. " The incorrect words in your proposition is contained in the assertion of " our will and mortal thoughts. " There is a Divine Mind whose will is not subject to yours, this is the basis for proclaiming " DIVINE WILL (rather than your own / my own will). " This is the essence of the Second Pauri of Japji Sahib. This is the true source of Yogiji's prayer. New age nostrums like " The Secret " fail to understand this profound and pivotal distinction, and presume the capacity to wield and manipulate reality according to our private, premeditated agendas of excellence. " If these agendas do flow throught " The Home Office " they are dead on arrival. Period. There are many approaches to manifesting the reality we long for. This is Guru Nanak's approach. Anyone is free to try any approach, but the reason one accepts a Stated Wisdom (ie., " Shabd Guru " )is because such wisdom will always yield the Truth in the end (ie., " True Guru " ). We can make Fox News our personal guru. We can make Oprah our personal guru. But I would not recommend it. They are not qualified to complete the job, so then " their followers " is stuck in limbo. Here is Guru Nanak's to re-solve this dilemma (from the Second Pauri). " Hukamai andar sabh ko, bahar hukam no ko-ay, Nanak hukamai je bujhai ta haumai kahai na ko-ay. " " Everyone and everything is subject to the command of Wahe Guru, which none can escape. Nanak says that if the mortal were to realize Wahe Guru's command, they would never entertain egotism. " Bless you for joining in the response to this painful situation. Yet, on the other hand, as one becomes merged into the Will of Wahe Guru, there are many wonderful things that humans can accomplish, even in the most dire of circumstances. The Siddhis of Wahe Guru flow freely to to those " Sant Sipahi " who step forward in self-sacrifice because they have become qualified to have something to give in sacrifice. Please see image in Files section titles " Meeting the Beast. " It's about this very subject, and it's about time we learn this lesson and get on with the job. " Many speak of courage . . . " for many Blessings, Krishna Singh Kundalini-Yoga , Denise Lapides <denise wrote: > > This website is bizarre to say the least, and completely based in > fear mongering techniques. This reality we > call our world is created completely by our thoughts, and at this > point, what we are living in and witnessing > around the world is the critical adjustment as we transition from > this old way of fear based thinking into a > newer and uplifting supportive way of living. To even take the time > to read this kind of writing is a pure waste, > (yes, I did it!) and now I realize, that my feelings to stay away > from that kind of purely negative propaganda are > correct. > > I encourage all of us to meditate as much as possible, to clear our > own subconsciousness, to be extremely clear > about what it is we really want to see in this world, right here, > right now and to focus on that vision. I encourage > everyone of us to do all we can to uplift, serve and devote ourselves > to uncovering our very highest Self, so that the > better we know who we are, and what kinds of thought trains continue > to travel around in our minds, the better we > will serve all of humanity. > > Vibrate the highest you can, and when you are aware that you have > slipped back into an old fear based thought, > use the Magic Mantra to keep you uplifted and spin that mind back > around. > > Ek Ong Kar, Sat Gurprasad, Sat Gurprasad, Ek Ong Kar > > In love and service, > Wahe Guru, > Kirpal Kaur > > Denise Kirpal Kaur Lapides, IKYTA, E-RYT, RYT 500 > http://www.Divinelightyoga.com > 410-570-2878 > " Dedicated to creating a conscious community for spiritual growth and > connection. " > Check website for updates! > >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Sat Nam, In 1999 I attended Masters Touch and Yogi Bhajan addressed some of these issues in lectures. I was also aware from another meditation teacher I studied with prior to Masters Touch-the Book of the Hopi speaks of this dark time and so does the Bible. I checked out the website too and had the same opinion-fear based and no suggestions for positive solutions-we are the solution. I did not read all of the site because it is nothing any of us who practice and have been practicing do not already know. This website is something we do not need to dwell on-I am in my 60s and have read many such things-we should look at being the solution rather than dwelling on the problem Ram Kaur Kundalini-Yoga , " Krishna Singh Khalsa " <krishna wrote: > > SSat Nam, Laura. Thanks for sharing this website. The question is, > personally, " What are you going to DO about it? " Do you have any > options? What are they? Yogi Bhajan forecast this decades before > Vince Diehl. Guru Gobind Singh forecast it 3 centuries ago. The > classic Mayans forecast a hell cycle to encompass Indigenous America, > to last from 1475 until 1995, as a run-up to be relieved with real > Indigenous knowledge just 16 years prior to the completion of the Nine > Evolutionary Underworlds of Creation. The longest running underworld, > mathematically pristine in its calculation, started 16.4 billion years > ago. The shortest one, will begin in 2011 and last for 260 days. It > will make people crazy. That's why we're the yogis, the Sevadars, the > healers and the compassionate ones to uplift the humanity in the face > of impossible circumstance. The most current cycle started in 1999, > and will last 12.8 years. We're in the thick of it now. It's > generally translated as a Galactic phase wherein industrial capitalism > goes global and attempts to impose the hegemony of a monetary debt > slavery system, corporate security police state, on the entire planet. > > The current Olympics is window dressing for the most dressed up police > state on the planet. The US Olympic track and field trials were held > here in Eugene Oregon a month ago. I walked with the Tibetans as we > circumambulated the stadium. I carried a large Tibetan flag, for the > benefit of all beings. The WTO just collapsed a few days ago. Thank > our lucky stars for that. The diseases are overwhelming but they are > not invincible, and they are not undying. Truth is invincible and > Truth is undying (Akal). So live the Truth and be the remedy. Fire > is also a purifier. Unpleasant but a fact of life in the gestation of > stars and living organisms. We're in the fire now. Which is why I > love to open my voice and sing, " Many speak of courage. Speaking > cannot give it. It's in the face of Death that we must live it. When > things are down and darkest, that's when we stand tallest. Until the > last star falls, we won't give an inch at all. Stand as the Khalsa. > Strong as steel, steady as stone. Mind and soul, breath and bone. " > Can you say that and mean it? If you can, you are the medicine. If > we can't, we've got the sickness. > > Simple, isn't it? Radically simple in the coherent complexity of > existence. Requiring a choice. > > I've posted a graphic rendering of the insightful Mayan mathematical > system (based on permutations and combinations of the factors that > have enabled a single cell to emerge from the briny seas, form > eyeballs, arms, legs, feet and a brain, language evolving into > scientific systems that have enabled us to create machines to do our > work, and to launch extra-terrestial telescopes capable of seeing back > in time to the background radiation of the early moments after the big > bang some billions of years ago, WE CONTAIN ALL THE WISDOM OF THIS > CREATIVE FIAT, ENGRAVED WITHIN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS. In other words, > EVERYTHING IS A MIRACLE, which we systematically degrade into ego > consciousness, and thus we have fouled our divine nest. The fire will > be breath of fire as we purify our motives, intentions and > capabilties, or the external fire of Mother Nature will do the job for > us. In either case, purification is coming because the Age of Purity > (Khalsa) will happen with us or without us. So when that train leaves > the station, will " WE " be on board? This is an old song, coming true. > The Mayan Underworld understanding is based on a recent work by > Barbara Hand Clow, who based this insight in the work in evolutionary > biology and Mayan systems understanding, by Swedish biologist Carl > Johan Calleman. It's titled " Mayan Code. " I recommend it. > > for many Blessings, > Krishna Singh Khalsa > > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " laura_johnson34 " > <laura_johnson34@> wrote: > > > > I know many of you have read from this site. I read it > > back even before any of these " plagues " were taking place, > > well, at least not on the scale they are recently. People > > were saying these things would never happen, but now > > they are, so I'm convinced it's all legitimate, and that > > there's more to come.....unfortunately it's real. > > > > http://www.theamericannightmare.org/7_PLAGUES__G-G-G.html > > > > Laura > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Sat Nam, I agree completely with what you say, Charlotte (Ram Kaur). But on the other hand there are vast numbers of the population that are only now being awakened out of their " consumer consensus trances " by crises in the food system, housing and economic collapse, $4.50 gallon gasoline (which is still cheap compared to what is paid in other parts of the world). We can't be the solution if we avoid being at the point of impact where people's minds are being altered by reality. This is, in my opinion, the most singular stunningly beautiful teaching in Patanjali's Yoga Sutras - SUTRA 2, PART 1: YOGA IS MANAGEMENT OF THE MODIFICATIONS OF THE MIND. PERIOD. Everything else is a footnote. And when the greater part of a population is only just now waking up and realizing they " have a mind " just at a moment when it's world is falling apart. How do they learn to manage the mind? Is it like driving school? Will the person fall apart? Or will they be assisted to enter and live in a new way, and thereby manifest a new, personal experience of the world within themselves that we might justifiably, and without pulling the wool over anyone's eyes, that we might be able to stand, with a straight face, on the courthouse steps and honestly proclaim LIFE to be universally " healthy, happy and holy. " When that happens, mission accomplished. until then, we've got work and Seva to do. Otherwise, Lucy, we're gonna have a lot of 'splainin' to do. " Bless you, Krishna Singh Kundalini-Yoga , " Charlotte " <macksmama2001 wrote: > > Sat Nam, > In 1999 I attended Masters Touch and Yogi Bhajan addressed some of > these issues in lectures. I was also aware from another meditation > teacher I studied with prior to Masters Touch-the Book of the Hopi > speaks of this dark time and so does the Bible. I checked out the > website too and had the same opinion-fear based and no suggestions for > positive solutions-we are the solution. I did not read all of the > site because it is nothing any of us who practice and have been > practicing do not already know. This website is something we do not > need to dwell on-I am in my 60s and have read many such things-we > should look at being the solution rather than dwelling on the problem > Ram Kaur > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Thank you Krishna Singh-you are right and many of us are just now beginning to wake up-so the site has validity, I just become somewhat troubled when anyone gets into such a fear based space but has no suggestions for a different outcome - the site hits lots of valid points, thanks for your reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Sat Nam, Charlotte, As yogis we must learn to eat fear for breakfast and then digest it into compassion. When the auric circumvent force expands to 18 feet diameter, such a yogi (being said during the time of the Cold War and nuclear madness), such a yogi can derive nourishment from nuclear radiation. I'm not suggesting we try this today. But the image of transmuting deadly toxin and poison is why the Peacock is a mythical bird in Tibetan and Indian cultures. Peacocks eat deadly poison (aconite root, poisonous snakes - the reason why they walk around estates in elegant spendor is partly for beauty, mostly as " snake patrol " ). These chemical constituents of the poison, it is said, are transmuted into the beautiful colors of the peacock's plumage. Guru Hargobind designed a cello like, cello sized stringed instrument that can be played while sitting on the floor with Gurbani Kirtan, that is called " The Peacock Instrument. " It is now being revived into active use by Bhai Baldeep Singh, and was played by his uncle, Bhai Avtar Singh, who was a master of the instrument. The message is clear from Guru Hargobind Singh, that the Shabd Kirtan of Gurbani has this powerful capacity to tranform our overwhelm into our effective, skillful bliss. And in this way, one learns to transmute fear into massive confidence in what is really True, and face even death with courage. But the day to day application is to bring Love and Seva to every day. This is the invincible householder yoga we have received from Guru Nanak, and taught to us by Yogi Bhajan for the times especially now unfolding. Those who eat together will always be together. This website is just another ordinary bad dream unfolding in an interesting and dangerous time. We should be able to handle it, in order to help those who become caught or who struggle with such dreams. The dreams are happening, they're real for those who experience them. But other, better dreams are available. Someone has to let them know " where. " Why not us? many Blessings, Krishna Singh Kundalini-Yoga , Charlotte <macksmama2001 wrote: > > Thank you Krishna Singh-you are right and many of us are just now beginning to wake up-so the site has validity, I just become somewhat troubled when anyone gets into such a fear based space but has no suggestions for a different outcome - the site hits lots of valid points, thanks for your reply. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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