Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Sat Nam, I have a student who is coming to my classes, loving them, but after she leaves is experiencing extreme fatigue, anxiety, and an overall feeling of well being. She has some underlying sensitivities and I've asked other students to not wear scents to class to support her. I've also tried having her hold the poses and breath in a less vigorous way to support her current truth. The modifications, which she tried just last week, helped some but the symptoms persist. Although at times I've experienced some mild cleansing effects or discomfort as I've shifted toxins and energies, I never had such ongoing extreme effects. Does anyone have suggestions or similar experiences to share? I always encourage my students to hold the ideal in their mind but live the real of their best in each moment. So while they stretch themselves out of their comfort zone slightly, I don't want them going beyond their best into injury. Thank you for your supportive answers and feedback. Kirat Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Sat Nam, Kirat Kaur,This is in response to your post about a student who experiences fatigue and anxiety after class.I had the same phenomenon and it was my Kundalini yoga friend/therapist who saw in me that all my life I had needed REAL rest but never got it because of coffee, stress, overwork, low-self esteem, etc.When I began the practice of Kundalini Yoga, it was vital that I changed my life a little bit to rest more to allow for the very deep, powerful and soul-full work that was occurring. Even to this day, the fatigue and anxiety come IF I practice Kundalini Yoga while concurrently trying to be in the world in the same-old-way. But when I am in my practice and I surrender myself to a more restful, consolidating way of being in the world, the fatigue and anxiety don't get triggered.Anyone else with a similar take on this?Sunder Kaur, Minneapolis, MN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 as I recall from other posts and my learning over the years...this applies to others and myself... 1) Does the experience need professional assistance? 2) Does the person need to change their expectation about the process to wholeness? 3) Do they simple want to talk/be social? 4) Is it basics like eating, sleeping, drinking water etc.? 5) Is this person on meds? 6) Does the layout after yoga/meditation intergrate my effort? Two important pieces of information you left out: 1) Has this person ever done any other physical practice or mental practice? 2) How long and how many times per week does this person practice KY and other practices? One practice that may be forgotten is eating and socializing together after class. I find this to be a wonderful way to return to " normal' without any overwhelm positive or negative. Kundalini-Yoga , " jamiedurner " <jdurner wrote: > > Sat Nam, > > I have a student who is coming to my classes, loving them, but after > she leaves is experiencing extreme fatigue, anxiety, and an overall > feeling of well being. She has some underlying sensitivities and I've > asked other students to not wear scents to class to support her. I've > also tried having her hold the poses and breath in a less vigorous way > to support her current truth. The modifications, which she tried just > last week, helped some but the symptoms persist. > > Although at times I've experienced some mild cleansing effects or > discomfort as I've shifted toxins and energies, I never had such > ongoing extreme effects. Does anyone have suggestions or similar > experiences to share? I always encourage my students to hold the ideal > in their mind but live the real of their best in each moment. So while > they stretch themselves out of their comfort zone slightly, I don't > want them going beyond their best into injury. > > Thank you for your supportive answers and feedback. > Kirat Kaur > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Dear Kirat Kaur, I also had extreme reactions to Kundalini Yoga when I first started. This has passed, but it took me a few years, even though I had been practicing Hatha Yoga for fifteen years prior to KY. Here is what helped me: 1. No breath of fire. Just deep breathing for a while. 2. Only 26 repetitions and resting after every pose. 3. Taking the cold showers to seal the aura. (I take cold baths.) 4. Getting plenty of physical exercise. 5. Keeping my home and car clean, clutter-free, orderly and peaceful. 6. Eating regularly, getting plenty of sleep, and staying hydrated. 7. Doing only beginner sets for the first few months. Hope this helps! I now am in a totally different phase with KY and enjoy doing all types of kriyas. It depends on how much trauma a person is carrying, how open they are psychically, and how safe they feel. For example, if one is struggling financially, their first chakra is wobbly, and they need grounding. Many spiritual seekers lose their ground...I know I did. SatPal Kaur > Sat Nam, > > I have a student who is coming to my classes, loving them, but after > she leaves is experiencing extreme fatigue, anxiety, and an overall > feeling of well being. She has some underlying sensitivities and I've > asked other students to not wear scents to class to support her. I've > also tried having her hold the poses and breath in a less vigorous way > to support her current truth. The modifications, which she tried just > last week, helped some but the symptoms persist. > > Although at times I've experienced some mild cleansing effects or > discomfort as I've shifted toxins and energies, I never had such > ongoing extreme effects. Does anyone have suggestions or similar > experiences to share? I always encourage my students to hold the ideal > in their mind but live the real of their best in each moment. So while > they stretch themselves out of their comfort zone slightly, I don't > want them going beyond their best into injury. > > Thank you for your supportive answers and feedback. > Kirat Kaur > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Thank you to everyone who has resonded with great insight and sharing. One correction and two pieces of additional information...in my first post I said that afterwards she had general feelings of well being...what I meant to say was ill feeling. This woman is a new mother (child 1 year old) and is being treated by an acupuncturist and wholistic chiropractor for thyroid issues and possible adrenal fatigue so there are definitely other issues surfacing for her to work with. She also recognizes that her body is sensitive and is somewhat hyper in its reactions. She is physically active but this is her first experience with KY. I have already been working with her on modifying poses and breath to decrease the intensity but am thankful for the reminders about clean food, water, rest, and the cold showers. I will pass on the information and continue to support her...with all of your help! Blessings. Kirat Kaur Kundalini-Yoga , Sunder Kaur Khalsa <sunderkhalsa108 wrote: > > Sat Nam, Kirat Kaur, > > This is in response to your post about a student who experiences fatigue and anxiety after class. > > I had the same phenomenon and it was my Kundalini yoga friend/therapist who saw in me that all my life I had needed REAL rest but never got it because of coffee, stress, overwork, low-self esteem, etc. > > When I began the practice of Kundalini Yoga, it was vital that I changed my life a little bit to rest more to allow for the very deep, powerful and soul-full work that was occurring. > > Even to this day, the fatigue and anxiety come IF I practice Kundalini Yoga while concurrently trying to be in the world in the same-old-way. But when I am in my practice and I surrender myself to a more restful, consolidating way of being in the world, the fatigue and anxiety don't get triggered. > > Anyone else with a similar take on this? > > Sunder Kaur, Minneapolis, MN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Dear Kirat Kaur, I could tell from the post that you meant to write ill feeling. A couple of other things came to mind yesterday that may help her. 1. Wearing white. It really does amplify the benefits of Kundalini Yoga. Also, I find it's important not to keep the same clothes on after taking a class or practicing KY. If after teaching I walk around town doing my errands in my Yoga clothes I feel like I have energy stuck to me that I need to clear. 2. Washing you hair and taking epsom salt baths. A lot of energy gets stuck in the hair. The epsom salts help clear the aura, too. 3. Don't chant in your pajamas. Yogi Bhajan wrote this and I was guilty of chanting in my pajamas before sleep. Sat Pal Kaur .. Kundalini-Yoga , " jamiedurner " <jdurner wrote: > > Thank you to everyone who has resonded with great insight and sharing. > > One correction and two pieces of additional information...in my first > post I said that afterwards she had general feelings of well > being...what I meant to say was ill feeling. > > This woman is a new mother (child 1 year old) and is being treated by > an acupuncturist and wholistic chiropractor for thyroid issues and > possible adrenal fatigue so there are definitely other issues > surfacing for her to work with. She also recognizes that her body is > sensitive and is somewhat hyper in its reactions. She is physically > active but this is her first experience with KY. > > I have already been working with her on modifying poses and breath to > decrease the intensity but am thankful for the reminders about clean > food, water, rest, and the cold showers. > > I will pass on the information and continue to support her...with all > of your help! > > Blessings. > Kirat Kaur > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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