Re:8th chakra as aura, not the ultimate view in teachings of Yogi Bhaj

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam, Wahe Guru! Thanks for your insightful post and different angle of

seeing our practice. I have taught many 8 week chakra series, one more advanced

student has asked for a ten body series. If the chakras corresspond to the

first eight bodies, what would be good kriyas or meditations for the 9th and

10th bodies? I am grateful for the list and the wisdom and knowledge freely

shared by everyone on it ( I immediately started practicing most of the

recommendation on high blood presure and within a day and 1/2 have gone from an

alarming stage 2 back to stage one, now to normalize it.) I even enjoy the

sometimes contentious dialogue...

 

 

Peace, John (Ram Das)

[Guest guest]

Dear Ram Das [singh]

Good to hear your good news on the vital signs. Well, the 7 chakras

correspond to the first 7 subtle bodies (more or less, the arcline

surrounds the third eye, it " focuses " the third eye the way a coil

winding (called a " choke " ) around the neck of a cathode ray tube

focuses a tv or computer screen image coming from an

cathode " electron gun " that would correspond to the third eye

(pituitary itself). In fact we used to marvel (in the early 70's

before personal computers existed, how much the " human bio-computer "

is the primary source for externalized computer technologies. As

when we do Kirtan Kriya, the finger tips (our " digits " ) work like a

keyboard, to program pulsing pattern waves from the front to the back

of the brain (where the " memory " is), and the forehead is like the

screen. (I have digressed . . .)

 

The Eighth Body (Pranic Body) is at the diaphragm muscle, where ATP

(pranic) energy packets are created and exported via the

bloodstream. Also the portals for prana entering into the Nadis is

at the diaphragm - heart center area. ATP is generated when a

molecule of glucose and a molecule of oxygen are processed in the

mitochondria of an exercising muscle - how conveniently and well

designed we are to have the diaphragm running the breath (constantly)

and located below the lungs where the oxygen comes from, and above

the stomach where the glucose comes from. Both the heart and

diaghragm are continually generating prana within the body, and we

have been taught these precious teachings whereby with Prana-yam our

pranic evolution begins to activate and arouse beautiful, interesting

and otherwise dormant " peripherals " of our " human bio-computer " --

peripherals such as spirituality, love, compassion, courage, service,

the " generosity gene " etc. etc. To do this effectively requires

ascension beyond the realm of " FORM. " Kundalini Yoga as we have been

practicing it for the past 35 years with Siri Singh Sahib Yogi

Bhajan, this approach has been mostly about " FORM. " We

need " FORMLESSNESS " to accomplish this vast integration of everything

on all planes of ourselves. We need SHUNYATA (Emptiness,

Formlessness, the " ONG-ness " of the Universe). The best practice we

have in 3HO for this is SAT NAM RASAYAN. It's interesting that

Kundalini Yogis chant " Ong Namo " without really appreciating that,

after you " Ong Namo " (perceive and acknowledge the presence and

essence of emptiness within us), this realization IS the essence of

Guru Dev. Ong manifests Guru, and this kind of wisdom awareness Guru

that arises spontaneously within you, brings everything. Do " Ong

Namo " and the entire Golden Chain dissolves into two realities -

yourself and the universe. And that's all there is. No idols of an

infinitely regressing concept of masters unto masters, under still

more masters. You too (we all) are to be a master and Mastery is a

solitary immersion into infinity. takes a strong stomach (and muhl

bhand). Pretty soon, Shakti Pad comes, and we learn to surrender the

efforts of trying and trying, as we discover we've always been what

we've always wanted to be. But at least the sweating was good.

 

John, to master the Ninth Body, we do Seva, learn to heal others, and

meditate deeply enough within Shunya to be able to identify " what is

our own vibration, " what is the vibration of emptiness, and what is

the vibration of the other being whom we serve in healing. Now we

have a basis for an authentic human society. Selfless intentions

within clear boundaries. To master the Tenth Body, for me the first

verse of Song of the Khalsa became a script for Improv Existential

Theater: " Many speak of courage, speaking cannot give it. It's in

the face of death that we must live it. " When we master death, Death

will award us our diploma for having mastered the Tenth Body. That's

the only school I have much faith in. I hope that you understand.

Life is not a petty problem. As MLK said, " If we haven't yet found

something worth dying for, the life we're living hasn't yet become

worthy of it. " Next step was for me, in 1969 - Do the sadhana and

become whom you will. And as Guru Gobind Singh says in Ray Man

Shabad - " And death will never approach you. "

 

many Blessings,

Krishna Singh

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , John Iversen

<johniversen94702 wrote:

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> Sat Nam, Wahe Guru! Thanks for your insightful post and different

angle of seeing our practice. I have taught many 8 week chakra

series, one more advanced student has asked for a ten body series.

If the chakras corresspond to the first eight bodies, what would be

good kriyas or meditations for the 9th and 10th bodies? I am

grateful for the list and the wisdom and knowledge freely shared by

everyone on it ( I immediately started practicing most of the

recommendation on high blood presure and within a day and 1/2 have

gone from an alarming stage 2 back to stage one, now to normalize

it.) I even enjoy the sometimes contentious dialogue...

>

>

> Peace, John (Ram Das)

>

[Guest guest]

Sat nam,

 

In Shakta Kaur Kalsha's book, she recommends Wahe Guru Kriya for the subtle (9th) body.

 

Peace, love & light,

Jagatjeet

[Guest guest]

John,

There's a wonderful kriya called " Awakening Yourself to Your Ten

Bodies " in The Owner's Manual for the Human Body. It ends with Laya

Yoga Meditation. I have had profound results with this kriya.

Congratulations on lowering your blood pressure. It's a great feeling

to create immediate results with Kundalini Yoga.

Hope the contentious dialogue doesn't raise it!

Sat Pal Kaur

 

> Sat Nam, Wahe Guru! Thanks for your insightful post and different

angle of seeing our practice. I have taught many 8 week chakra series,

one more advanced student has asked for a ten body series. If the

chakras corresspond to the first eight bodies, what would be good

kriyas or meditations for the 9th and 10th bodies? I am grateful for

the list and the wisdom and knowledge freely shared by everyone on it (

I immediately started practicing most of the recommendation on high

blood presure and within a day and 1/2 have gone from an alarming stage

2 back to stage one, now to normalize it.) I even enjoy the sometimes

contentious dialogue...

>

>

> Peace, John (Ram Das)

>