politics OK, but only if tied to KY or YB's humanology

[Guest guest]

Political yogis,Keep your political posts coming, but only if they're tied to kundalini yoga or Yogi Bhajan's humanology. I, for example, in the past have referred to the political statements in the Vedas, the source of yoga. Experiment with that and see if we can avoid political posts that have no tie to either kundalini yoga or Yogi Bhajan's humanology.Sat nam,Amar Atmacreator, 3HO's intl Charles D. Frohman202-536-4346 (W)202-258-8027 (M)* My Blog: http://dcflow.gaia.com/blog* My Bio and Consultancy: www.cfrohman.com* Charter School where I teach: http://www.iapcs.com/* Friend Me at Facebook or LinkedIn

[Guest guest]

Of course, and I apologize for straying off this line. It is a good rule.

 

However, Yogi Bhajan's vision was extremely political, so it is

difficult to know where to draw the line. For example, his vision of

" Long Time Sun " was a time in the future when yogis are being put

against a firing line for opposition to corrupt forces in power, and

they are singing " Long Time Sun " as they are shot. That's pretty

political.

 

He also came out strongly in favor of the Iraq War during public

speeches, and also publicly said that he would leave the country if

Bush was elected in 2000. He definitely publicly picked sides on

these and other less controversial political issues.

 

In addition, he talked extensively about the fact that when the world

burns during the cusp of the Aquarian Age, that yogis will be dragged

through the street by trucks and angry mobs if they/we don't have the

tools ready to help people.

 

He also had the core belief that Kundalini Yoga is not an ascetic

tradition, that one must engage in the politics of the day (his close

connections to basically every major politician in New Mexico, for

example) and the reality of the day. Kundalini Yoga was the

foundation for the person to be able to then engage constructively in

the world.

 

For this forum, I plan to fully (from this point) follow your general

guidelines. However, it is an artificial distinction you are making

in my opinion, for the sake of peace on this forum - it is not a

direct reflection of the teachings of Kundalini Yoga as portrayed by

Yogi Bhajan.

 

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Charles D. Frohman "

<cfroh wrote:

>

> Political yogis,

>

> Keep your political posts coming, but only if they're tied to

kundalini yoga or Yogi Bhajan's humanology. I, for example, in the

past have referred to the political statements in the Vedas, the

source of yoga. Experiment with that and see if we can avoid

political posts that have no tie to either kundalini yoga or Yogi

Bhajan's humanology.

>

> Sat nam,

> Amar Atma

> creator, 3HO's intl

>

>

> Charles D. Frohman

> 202-536-4346 (W)

> 202-258-8027 (M)

>

>

> * My Blog: http://dcflow.gaia.com/blog

> * My Bio and Consultancy: www.cfrohman.com

> * Charter School where I teach: http://www.iapcs.com/

> * Friend Me at Facebookor LinkedIn

>

[Guest guest]

No matter what our views are about our relative social and political

responsibilities - or how we perceive Yogi Bhajan's relationship to

the same- it is entirely appropriate for a chat group founded on a

shared interest in " Kundalini-Yoga " to try to maintain some

relationship to that basic topic (and related yoga therapy / Yogi

Bhajan teachings) on which the group was founded. If anyone wants to

pursue politics or other interest areas with members of this same

group, I see it as more effective to create a separate chat group

focusing on that topic - to which you can invite this chat group's

members - than to lose members of this group by going too far afield

of the original " interest " area. It's probably safe to assume that

many members of this group have limited time for these kinds of

communications, so any self-editing for effectiveness and relevance

will, I''m sure, be appreciated by those who envision this group as a

viable vehicle for sharing yoga/meditation technology.

[Guest guest]

Strange to send this after the issue was already decided by the

moderator. Are you a moderator as well?

 

In my email each day, I receive a list of all the topics for the day

from this group, and I choose to read those topics which I find

interesting. That may be a good approach for you to avoid the time

commitment of reading each post every day.

 

Much like not enjoying what is on tv, and changing the channel, rather

than watching it. If we made all our decisions so as not to offend

anyone, we would live in a much less vibrant and interesting world,

IMHO. It's a very, dare I say, Piscean approach to controlling

communication.

 

Kundalini-Yoga , Harbhajan Kaur Khalsa

<harbhajank wrote:

>

> No matter what our views are about our relative social and political

> responsibilities - or how we perceive Yogi Bhajan's relationship to

> the same- it is entirely appropriate for a chat group founded on a

> shared interest in " Kundalini-Yoga " to try to maintain some

> relationship to that basic topic (and related yoga therapy / Yogi

> Bhajan teachings) on which the group was founded. If anyone wants to

> pursue politics or other interest areas with members of this same

> group, I see it as more effective to create a separate chat group

> focusing on that topic - to which you can invite this chat group's

> members - than to lose members of this group by going too far afield

> of the original " interest " area. It's probably safe to assume that

> many members of this group have limited time for these kinds of

> communications, so any self-editing for effectiveness and relevance

> will, I''m sure, be appreciated by those who envision this group as a

> viable vehicle for sharing yoga/meditation technology.

>

[Guest guest]

just completed sadhana...and reading my KY email first thing...is this a

" connection " to the

" teachings " ...back on topic, I prefer the almost anything goes approach, scan

for your

" interest " , and topics will " die " with no interest.

 

On the other hand, there are " better " discussion group programs that have topic

area/threads abilities but is free and the maintenance is easy.

 

My vision is that we are all logged in to the same " group " and I simple go to a

" topic area "

for: pregnancy, courses, politics, gay, men's, women's, etc. etc. and not have

to join other

groups or sign in to every " special interest " .

 

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " dharam_khalsa " <michael.telanoff

wrote:

>

> Strange to send this after the issue was already decided by the

> moderator. Are you a moderator as well?

>

> In my email each day, I receive a list of all the topics for the day

> from this group, and I choose to read those topics which I find

> interesting. That may be a good approach for you to avoid the time

> commitment of reading each post every day.

>

> Much like not enjoying what is on tv, and changing the channel, rather

> than watching it. If we made all our decisions so as not to offend

> anyone, we would live in a much less vibrant and interesting world,

> IMHO. It's a very, dare I say, Piscean approach to controlling

> communication.

>

> Kundalini-Yoga , Harbhajan Kaur Khalsa

> <harbhajank@> wrote:

> >

> > No matter what our views are about our relative social and political

> > responsibilities - or how we perceive Yogi Bhajan's relationship to

> > the same- it is entirely appropriate for a chat group founded on a

> > shared interest in " Kundalini-Yoga " to try to maintain some

> > relationship to that basic topic (and related yoga therapy / Yogi

> > Bhajan teachings) on which the group was founded. If anyone wants to

> > pursue politics or other interest areas with members of this same

> > group, I see it as more effective to create a separate chat group

> > focusing on that topic - to which you can invite this chat group's

> > members - than to lose members of this group by going too far afield

> > of the original " interest " area. It's probably safe to assume that

> > many members of this group have limited time for these kinds of

> > communications, so any self-editing for effectiveness and relevance

> > will, I''m sure, be appreciated by those who envision this group as a

> > viable vehicle for sharing yoga/meditation technology.

> >

>