yes, political posts are within the scope of the householder

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You're quoting Yogi Bhajan, Dharam, so your political post is appropriate for 3HO's international group. As long as there's at least a tenuous connection, we can see that the poster made an effort to stay relevant to the teachings, and that's good enough for me.Also, you're couching your politics from the classic characterization of the kundalini yogi as a "householder", or participant in society. And politics - meaning the way by which a society organizes itself for peace and prosperity - is certainly an activity of societal participation. So in two ways now you've adhered to the guidelines.Yes, the distinction is artificial, probably unenforceable, and maybe a bit unfair. As long as, though, we try to stay connected, in a context that follows from the

Master's teachings, I think yogis will appreciate whatever is posted.And there's always the old standby - bad posts will disappear from neglect. I want to keep this Aquarian, and thus open and creative. There are no rules, really, except a natural desire to discuss and spread the Teachings. And those Teachings go all over the place, hence the breadth (and depth) of posts.Sat nam,Amar AtmaPosted by: "dharam_khalsa"

michael.telanoff

 

 

dharam_khalsa

 

 

Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:03 pm (PDT)

Of course, and I apologize for straying off this line. It is a good rule.

 

However, Yogi Bhajan's vision was extremely political, so it is

difficult to know where to draw the line. For example, his vision of

"Long Time Sun" was a time in the future when yogis are being put

against a firing line for opposition to corrupt forces in power, and

they are singing "Long Time Sun" as they are shot. That's pretty

political.

 

He also came out strongly in favor of the Iraq War during public

speeches, and also publicly said that he would leave the country if

Bush was elected in 2000. He definitely publicly picked sides on

these and other less controversial political issues.

 

In addition, he talked extensively about the fact that when the world

burns during the cusp of the Aquarian Age, that yogis will be dragged

through the street by trucks and angry mobs if they/we don't have the

tools ready to help people.

 

He also had the core belief that Kundalini Yoga is not an ascetic

tradition, that one must engage in the politics of the day (his close

connections to basically every major politician in New Mexico, for

example) and the reality of the day. Kundalini Yoga was the

foundation for the person to be able to then engage constructively in

the world.

 

For this forum, I plan to fully (from this point) follow your general

guidelines. However, it is an artificial distinction you are making

in my opinion, for the sake of peace on this forum - it is not a

direct reflection of the teachings of Kundalini Yoga as portrayed by

Yogi Bhajan.

 

Kundalini-Yoga, "Charles D. Frohman"

<cfroh wrote:

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> Political yogis,

>

> Keep your political posts coming, but only if they're tied to

kundalini yoga or Yogi Bhajan's humanology. I, for example, in the

past have referred to the political statements in the Vedas, the

source of yoga. Experiment with that and see if we can avoid

political posts that have no tie to either kundalini yoga or Yogi

Bhajan's humanology.

>

> Sat nam,

> Amar Atma

> creator, 3HO's intl

>

>

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Thanks for the kind words Amar Atma. I think I am clear on the

guidelines, and as I said out of respect (if not total agreement) for

you and the others here, I will be more focused in future

conversations that touch on the political. I have a great deal of

passion in that arena as an approach to social justice, as I know you

do, and sometimes I get ahead of myself. Your continued moderation

and support of this forum is greatly appreciated.

 

Speaking only for myself, I have a desire to represent opinions that

are less than common in 3HO, but not to be disruptive. I appreciate

your help seeing the line.

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Charles D. Frohman "

<cfroh wrote:

>

> You're quoting Yogi Bhajan, Dharam, so your political post is

appropriate for 3HO's international group. As long as there's at

least a tenuous connection, we can see that the poster made an effort

to stay relevant to the teachings, and that's good enough for me.Also,

you're couching your politics from the classic characterization of the

kundalini yogi as a " householder " , or participant in society. And

politics - meaning the way by which a society organizes itself for

peace and prosperity - is certainly an activity of societal

participation. So in two ways now you've adhered to the

guidelines.

>

> Yes, the distinction is artificial, probably unenforceable, and

maybe a bit unfair. As long as, though, we try to stay connected, in

a context that follows from the Master's teachings, I think yogis will

appreciate whatever is posted.