an alarmist prediction for 2012

[Guest guest]

Sat nam.I don't mean to alarm my fellow conscious souls, but here's an alarmist forecast for 2012, a year very much in the mind of the late Yogi Bhajan, the Mayans and other big thinkers. When we see forecasts, however, let's realize that the complete opposite could happen, and also realize that our yoga, intentions, and other conscious behavior and activism can impact the now and future as well.---------------The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of the Soviet Union

is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions

- all within four years, while cautioning that putting food on the

table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by

2012.http://www.prisonplanet.com/celente-predicts-revolution-food-riots-tax-rebellions-by-2012.html

[Guest guest]

SatnamYogiji spoke of things becoming bleak for many and that we could expect many to behave irrationally as their realities appeared hopeless. He also said that our daily sadhana would/will always serve us and help us to serve people and these desperate times. He said many will come and need the technology of Kundalini Yoga and we'd better be ready to share it with them! This prediction of Gerald Celente sounds quite harsh but may hold some truth! Blessings to All, Jot Singh www.thekhalsaraj.com www.khalsakirpans.comwww.lifeknives.comIt's not the life that matters-It's the courage you bring to it.The Three Laws of ProsperityBe kind to everyoneNever speak ill of anyoneNever speak ill of yourselfYogi Bhajan

[Guest guest]

Really, Amar Atma, you do not mean to alarm, but had to let everyone

know what this guy (and you?) think will happen after four years of

Obama presidency? Paraphrasing him, he says people have to

realize---no we can't, hell is on the way---Hmmmm, Amar Atma, have you

submitted your wonderful ideas about what should happen to the Obama

transition team? I wonder if this guy has? No of course not, but I

hope you will, Amar Atma. The Transition Team is soliciting ideas now

from " the people " . Is this a first or have presidential transition

teams always done this? I think we all should tell the transition team

our ideas about how to bring peace and prosperity to our nation and

the world. Let's promote the benefits of offering yoga for preventive

health care.

 

They are soliciting ideas here, now.

 

http://change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople

 

Gurumeet Kaur Khalsa

Create Inner Peace

www.createinnerpeace.com

www.gurumeet.net

 

 

" Charles D. Frohman " wrote:

....I don't mean to alarm my fellow conscious souls, but here's an

alarmist forecast for 2012...

[Guest guest]

Sadly, this is just the tip of the iceberg of alarmist predictions -

people have been predicting everything from a cataclysmic shift in the

magnetic poles, to a rouge asteroid, to a flash nuclear war...

 

Fortunately, none of this is real, and it all of this basically boils

down to one thing: Fear of change, and fear perpetuating more fear...

So, we have to be careful as yogis to block this energy and not spread

it through repetition (as I have already done above... but just to

make an example).

 

In light of all this negativity, what me and my fellow yogi classmates

did about 3 months ago was start a new web site focused on all the

positive aspects of the coming change over from the Piscean age to the

Aquarian age, in an attempt to catalog all the signs of changes that

herald this new, healing age of community and union (as predicted by

Yogi Bhajan).

 

That site is called DawnofAquarius (.com) and you can submit uplifting

stories about the coming Aquarian age to me, and I will try to post them.

 

Yes, there are gonna be huge changes coming, and it's up to us, as the

White Lions of Yogi Bhajan's army to be there with courage to uplift

the people who see nothing but misery and bring them into the light.

 

So, submit your uplifting stories here, or just e-mail me.

http://www.dawnofaquarius.com

 

And do your Aquarian exercises! (Aquarian Sadhana, and the three part

Kriya assigned by YB to do until 2013 - Sat Kriya, SaTaNaMa (2nd Wave)

and Shodarshan Chakra Kriya)

 

Truly Yours,

Filip Filip

 

 

> I don't mean to alarm my fellow conscious souls, but here's an

alarmist forecast for 2012, a year very much in the mind of the late

Yogi Bhajan, the Mayans and other big thinkers. When we see

forecasts, however, let's realize that the complete opposite could

happen, and also realize that our yoga, intentions, and other

conscious behavior and activism can impact the now and future as well.

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

There have been various (read: MANY) forecasts now - last one was

October 12th. A huge UFO sighting was gonna happen in South America -

of course it didn't happen.

Same with 2012 - all this alarmist talk brings people, it makes them

share their fear and create more fear in the world, one big chain

reaction! Yes there will be changes, there will always be changes,

and so be it.

But the whole 2012 thing...no sorry :-(

 

 

Carry on living in peace

Carry on with your kriya's

Spread peace and love

 

And so be it!!

 

 

Sat Nam,

Sada Nam Singh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Charles D. Frohman "

<cfroh wrote:

>

> Sat nam.

>

> I don't mean to alarm my fellow conscious souls, but here's an

alarmist forecast for 2012, a year very much in the mind of the late

Yogi Bhajan, the Mayans and other big thinkers. When we see

forecasts, however, let's realize that the complete opposite could

happen, and also realize that our yoga, intentions, and other

conscious behavior and activism can impact the now and future as well.

>

> ---------------

>

> The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of

the Soviet Union is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots

and tax rebellions

> - all within four years, while cautioning that putting food on the

> table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by

> 2012.

>

> http://www.prisonplanet.com/celente-predicts-revolution-food-riots-

tax-rebellions-by-2012.html

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam, Amar Atma Singh.

 

Many blessings to you.

 

If it does come to this, there's a lot we can do. If one system falls

apart, it's because another one has to be born. Nothing to be afraid

of - all of our souls incarnated to be here at this time - we're equal

to the challenge.

 

Some thoughts to share with those of you who are into

community-organization:

 

1. Langar. At the heart of the work the Sikh Gurus did in India - they

established a daily langar program for their communities. As long as

people had a way to eat, it took care of their basic needs and allowed

them to build from there. When I look at the ways the original

Gurdwaras were set up in India - during the time of the Sikh Gurus -

it's a whole approach to societal re-engineering. You give people food

everyday. You give them a place to bathe. You give them opportunities

to serve - which builds relationships and self-confidence. You give

them a chance to study and meditate - which allows for

self-actualization. If everything fell apart -implementing this model

would regenerate society. So think about what it would take to start

and maintain a food program in your area - a free kitchen - and have

service opportunities and by donation yoga and meditation classes

associated with it. Give people something to eat. Give them something

to do. Food and relationships cover the basics.

 

2. Community currencies. The financial crisis right now is with

national currencies. However, money represents agreements to exchange.

There are ways to set up local currencies - within specific groups -

so that trade and exchange can continue - in the absence of major

currencies. To learn more about it, visit:

http://www.global-community.org/cgi/gc/scan/fi=news_stories/st=db/sf=code/se=25/\

sp=stories.html

 

3. Developing your intuition. I remember reading a lecture where Yogi

Bhajan said that the best way to deal with emergencies is to have a

very developed intuition. Your intuition can guide you - help prepare

you - and take you through any challenge. Kirtan Kriya is a great

meditation to develop intuition - and there are so many others. Learn

to listen and rely on your intuition, and let us all work with each

other in an intuitive way. Then - even if the worst happens - we are

prepared and we have a way through.

 

Grateful to share these thoughts with everyone.

 

With Divine Light and many blessings,

 

Ek Ong Kaar Kaur

[Guest guest]

Wonderful to all...how we can prevent or mitigate or vision an alternative

future or in the mists

of chaos be a light of peace.

 

My interest is in how or why this person would predict such a future and what I

might learn

from him.

 

Here is one take away and a question...

 

He considers himself a world citizen, although living in the USA he is able to

see the USA " as it

is " . He looks as clearly as he can to see trends (trends are his business)

sometime

wrong/sometime right but with no attachments. When you see " as it is " , you can

take/allow an

appropriate response.

 

On the other hand is he seeing " as it is " or he projecting " what you see is what

you get " ?

 

Share, participate and contribute.

Sat Ganesha

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Charles D. Frohman " <cfroh wrote:

>

> Sat nam.

>

> I don't mean to alarm my fellow conscious souls, but here's an alarmist

forecast for 2012, a

year very much in the mind of the late Yogi Bhajan, the Mayans and other big

thinkers. When

we see forecasts, however, let's realize that the complete opposite could

happen, and also

realize that our yoga, intentions, and other conscious behavior and activism can

impact the

now and future as well.

>

> ---------------

>

> The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of the Soviet

Union is now

forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions

> - all within four years, while cautioning that putting food on the

> table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by

> 2012.

>

>

http://www.prisonplanet.com/celente-predicts-revolution-food-riots-tax-rebellion\

s-by-

2012.html

>

[Guest guest]

I read the article and watched the video. I'd like to note that while watching

the video, I felt a lot of energy at my third chakra, about the size of a fist.

After I noticed that energy, I also got the words in my head " They are trying to

control you " . I already don't trust Fox News (See the movie Outfoxed to learn

about Rupert Murdock, etc.). The impression I get with what I felt in my body

is that this is just FoxNews trying to keep their propaganda machine going.

Their headline on the screen was something about predictions about Obama, but

Celente wasn't even talking about him but maybe one mention. The Economy is

already messed up and Fox is adding spin to Celenete's predictions that all the

grave stuff that is forthcoming is because of this upcoming presidency. Sigh.

Regardless, the mention about concentrating spending on food and useful things

makes sense. I am already doing my best to expand my gardening and to grow

fruit trees on my property. It is a shame, a real shame that when 9/11 happened

Bush did not call on us all to grow victory gardens. I say, yogis, lets keep up

our Kundalini yoga, grow more of your own food, and please while you are at it,

install and use a clothesline instead of your dryer whenever possible. Thanks.

Guru Beant Kaur

 

 

Bridget Kamke, LMT

Kundalini Yoga Teacher

Licensed Massage Therapist

Children's Book Author

www.infinipede.com

 

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[Guest guest]

Yeah Obama is out of control! He is even considering that radical Bill Richardson for Secretary of State! You know that guy was friends with that radical cult leader Yogi Bahjan who had long hair and a beard and wore a turban and looked like a muslim! Richardson even goes to the annual summer solstice gathering of Bahjan's cult and participates in a subversive ritual called "Peace Prayer Day!" No respectable secretary of state, like Condi Rice or Henry Kissinger would be caught dead at such an event!

 

Seriously now! In "Autobiography of a Yogi" Parmahansa Yogananda said that Abraham Lincoln was a very advanced yogi in his previous incarnation who consciously incarnated for the purpose of freeing the slaves. Lincoln has been a major influence on Obama. He says he has been reading a lot of his writings lately and is trying to emulate his "team of rivals" philosophy in choosing his cabinet. Hillary as secretrary of state could be a very politically shrewd, Lincolnesk appointment, but the fact that he is even considering a man as close to our community as Bill Richardson for that position I think says a lot about where Obama is coming from. To me he appears nirbho--fearless. While fox news fans the flames of fear Obama is meeting with McCain, showing he is nirvair--revengeless.

[Guest guest]

from Dev Atma:

Thank you, Gurmeet, for replying and posting the link. I went to it and gave

them two suggestions. I am happy there is a forum like the one you shared.

 

I would like to share a link with you.

 

http://www.slate.com/id/2204660/

 

It is a discussion of the " fake transparency of the Obama Administration "

(Slate.com's words).

 

YB taught us to look beyond dualities. And there is a way to read the " Yes we

can/ No we can't " rhetoric as divisive in the manner of the " for us/ against us "

rhetoric of the Bush Administration. I am not saying I believe that; I am

saying it is important to see that this is how it might be functioning, and to

take responsibility for ourselves by looking at how we speak, what we speak, and

examine if we are communicating our true selves or if we are giving voice to

something else.

 

Please understand that this constructive criticism is meant to include our

beloved moderator, whose inclusion of an " alarmist " prediction in our newsletter

may not have been, in your eyes, compassionate. I know Amar Atma well enough to

know that he meant to be just that, however, and that he wants us all to face

the hard truth, which, to him, is a form of tough love.

 

I am, myself, challenged everyday to remember that Yogiji said the world will

change so much that we won't even recognize it. I am certain this is true. I

am also certain (as I am certain Amar Atma believes this) there will be a new

banking system in place for the whole globe within a year. That certainly

constitutes a radical change. And with it, I am certain, will come social and

political upheavals. It can certainly get ugly.

 

But Yogiji also said " Grace is Reality. " It is up to us to live it, no mater

what the circumstance. So I will end by paraphrasing what Jot Singh said on

this discussion thread. Take care of your sadhana and let your sadhana take

care of you. Steadiness and compassion are what we are here to give in this

amazing time.

 

In gratitude

Dev Atma Singh

[Guest guest]

Dear Dev Atma,

Thank you for posting your ideas here.

 

http://www.change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople

 

And thank you for your link, which I read and with which I also

agree to an extent. Still, fake as it may be, a place for people to post and

share building their dreams, and just the possible notion that the transition

team is considering that people may pool their resources and brain banks to

construct phenomenal solutions for our nation and the world is so simple and

profound, it should not be dismissed. I hope everyone does it. I have not been

an Obama fan per say, but I loved the idea that only people united in group

consciousness can create real change. Consciously aware of our choices and the

impact of our thoughts and actions with each breath, a better world is possible

now.

 

I am also equally in love with our moderator, Amar Atma, and

appreciate him as you do, and still, I also love a little debate with him.

 

Thank you, Dev Atma.

 

Sat Nam

 

Gurumeet Kaur Khalsa

Create Inner Peace

www.createinnerpeace.com

www.gurumeet.net

 

Re: an alarmist

prediction for 2012

Posted by: " John Hall " johnandersonhall

johnandersonhall

Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:55 pm (PST)

from Dev Atma:

Thank you, Gurumeet, for replying and posting the link. I

went to it and gave them two suggestions. I am happy there is a forum like the

one you shared.

 

I would like to share a link with you.

 

http://www.slate.com/id/2204660/

 

It is a discussion of the " fake transparency of the

Obama Administration " (Slate.com's words)…

 

…Please understand that this constructive criticism is

meant to include our beloved moderator, whose inclusion of an

" alarmist " prediction in our newsletter may not have been, in your

eyes, compassionate. I know Amar Atma well enough to know that he meant to be

just that, however, and that he wants us all to face the hard truth, which, to

him, is a form of tough love…

 

In gratitude

Dev Atma Singh

[Guest guest]

In reply to the Obama " Of the People " posting ideas forum, it's vital

that everyone get behind some of the same ideas... 1 million differing

ideas won't make an impact, but if people get behind similar ideas,

then we can perhaps effect change.

 

And actually, the Executive office doesn't have to listen to the

individual citizen, which is why this thing is kind of fake...

However, Congress is one place which can be swayed by organized groups

and citizens coming together as a cohesive voice.

 

I suggest we pull from a cohesive source of issues that people can

agree upon, (and can copy and paste into the entry form). The issues

that I really like were given by an Independent candidate who won a

blind election 46% to 29% over Obama when a group of voters were

presented with the issues alone and no face, race or political

party... and in some instances, the approval on many of these issues

was above 80% †" no small feat!

 

These issues can be found on: http://www.votenader.org/issues/

 

When you are done, you should contact your own Congressional Leaders

and email them the very same letters

(http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/officials/?command=local), or

have them physically given right to your representative by hand!

(http://www.congress.org/congressorg/extraimpact/extraimpact.tt)

 

Since, traditionally, congressional letter writing will have much more

impact than contacting the executive branch.

 

Now is the time to follow through on the promise of having our voices

heard, and if we all pull from one source, we have much more chance of

effecting change together.

 

Ultimately, you all should also join November-5th (LINK:

http://www.november5th.org), which basically will be doing the same

thing as I mentioned above... Pooling people together on important

issues to influence congress and keep Obama's feet to the fire.

 

Sat Nam

Truly Yours,

Filip

 

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Gurumeet Kaur Khalsa "

<gurumeet wrote:

>

> Dear Dev Atma,

>

> Thank you for posting your ideas here.

>

> http://www.change.gov/page/s/ofthepeople

>

> And thank you for your link, which I read and with which I also

agree to an extent. Still, fake as it may be, a place for people to

post and share building their dreams, and just the possible notion

that the transition team is considering that people may pool their

resources and brain banks to construct phenomenal solutions for our

nation and the world is so simple and profound, it should not be

dismissed. I hope everyone does it.

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam.

 

Regarding the discussion about the events predicted by many cultures

and peoples throughout history, the goal is to agree on many things

predictions.The 2012 year as the culmination of a process that

starts a new humanity, the passage over the years Previous

cataclysmic situations that will lead to many sick and dying, the

fall of all the supports from our current culture, mass migration,

lack of food and water, the collapse of health services, etc, etc.

Master Yogi Bhajan warned us, but also and mainly left us tools to

go through this.

It is imperative Serve, serve and serve, there is no option.

It takes humility and intense love for the other to feed him, cure,

sharing shelter, water and the bread, roof, etc..

The drama is already on the scene, but some do not want to see it

until you're on your door.

The Handbook of Survival Yogi Bhajan did not appear to be the work

of a delusional, or a foolish man.

Devoting his life to teach others to develop your intuition, your

compassion, your love, your service, saying that this would be at

this time the only thing of value.

Aboriginal Hopi, in a tale of what would come, they wrote many years

ago, said on the final: " You're the One who you are waits. "

 

One more thing, please come to see what is Homa Therapy ,

 

www.homatherapy.com

 

In a letter in response to a mention of where his previous work in

Chile with Sikhs and people of Kundalini Yoga, a few days before

leaving this world, he told to Juan Ojeda: " You're here to bring

these lessons and hope to people, making it continues. "

 

One more thing, to see that therapy is Homa.bendiciones and Light

 

 

 

Jiwan Mukta Singh ( medical doctor, kundalini yoga instructor)

 

Montevideo, Uruguay

[Guest guest]

Dear Ones,

 

I have been watching our conversation about 2012, and really don’t want you to be afraid of this amazing switch over to the Aquarian Age! We know that it will involve lots of change, and change is always a great challenge for anyone!

 

Our dear Ek Ong Kar Kaur was so right when she reported on how to deal with what’s coming up when she said that developing your intuition is extremely important. She said, “I remember reading a lecture where Yogi Bhajan said that the best way to deal with emergencies is to have a very developed intuition. Your intuition can guide you - help prepare you - and take you through any challenge.”

 

So, if you like, I would really love to offer you the concrete steps to actually experience your intuition so that you can rely on it. No more mystery. If you would like to join us, we’ll work together in a free tele-class on the phone called “INTUITION TRAINING: Survive and Thrive in 2012!” on this coming Tues. evening, Nov. 25, 2008. You will learn the basic technique of Intuition where you will actually get in touch with your own Soul. Now, that “phone line” to your Soul, which is your God Self is called intuition! You’ll learn how to recognize that connection and how to test it. This most intimate and reliable relationship between Soul and self will definitely take you through any challenge.

 

All you Kundalini Yogis will get it right away—it’s really simple, yet utterly profound. This is for everyone, including “old timers.”

 

If you would like to join us on the phone this coming Tuesday evening (USA times), please go to www.SoulAnswer.com/Free_INTUITION_2012.html This tele-class will be accessible to those of you who live in other time zones as well. Please check this web page to find out more about that.

 

Lots of Love,

Siri-Gian Kaur

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam

 

in the text it reads:

" ...And there is going to be a lot of homeless, the likes of which we

have never seen before. Tent cities are already sprouting up around

the country and we're going to see many more. "

 

Tent cities rule! (isnt Summer Solstice a tent city? and we are all

homeless in the sense of fearless?)

 

Wahe guru! let it come

 

Love to all,

Sukhdev Kaur

architect and urbanist and pro-tent cities