The Topic of Feeling Guilty About Not Meditation, doing Sadhana

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Carly,

 

In the following post you say there is a dichotomy in the practice of

sadhana, between the religious (Sikh) ritual and the yogic philosophy,

which is the reason for separating the two practices.

 

" I didn't mean to imply we absolve the early morning sadhana, I merely

wanted to throw out a suggestion, what if there were more support groups

meeting to chant and practice at 6 am, for example? The reading of the

Japji at 4 am is a religious ritual, but yoga is a philosophy. There is

a dichotomy in this practice right now, and I am not afraid to question

it, because I believe to question things is part of how we become great. "

 

The way I perceive the group sadhana is that Japji opens the flow of

divine energy, yoga opens our chakras, body mind and soul to be able to

receive and integrate it, chanting mantras sublimely merges our

consciousness with the Guru's consciousness while clearing away

subconscious junk and Sadhana Gurdwara takes all that powerful group

sadhana energy and balances it out.

 

During a KWTC lecture above the Lungar Hall at the Mother Ashram in 2001

when Yogiji spoke of the importance of doing sadhana--Japji, yoga and

the meditations, I asked, " Haven't you also taught how important it is

to attend Sadhana Gurdwara? "

 

He answered, " Yes, morning Gurdwara balances sadhana energy in your

higher chakras so your energy does not fluctuate up and down all day, "

and then added, as a jab at me, " But if you don't do sadhana, there is

nothing to balance out! "

 

At the time I was skipping group sadhana and only attending morning

Gurdwara.

 

What I mean to imply is that there is no dichotomy. Yoga and the Guru,

Guru's words, are solidly united in every Kundalini Yoga Kriya, which

combine posture, mantra and the breath--Pawan Guru ( " Guru, the air

element " ). The only dichotomy is in our own minds, where we consciously

separate ourselves from our vast personal power by consciously

separating two of the most powerful technologies on the planet, that of

union of body mind and soul, and Gurus' total divine support for all

ten bodies.

 

On calling upon the ten Sikh Gurus by name (their phone numbers) their

sublime energies enter your meditation and prayer to support your

meditative reach to divine heights and profound, even miraculous healings.

 

It is easy and bliss-giving. Allow your meditation to merge with the

Gurus as Yogiji so often encouraged us, and fully embrace the new age

that is upon us.

 

Loving Blessings,

Guru Prem Kaur

www.pathoflifetolight.com

[Guest guest]

I don't think the issue is about feeling

guilty if you don't get up early in the morning to do Sadhana. It is a

tool and a technique with a certain benefit. Sure you can do a regular

practice at any other time of the day, but the Earily morning (Amrit Vela)

is a special time, and there is a reason for getting up at this time. It's

not random. Yogi Bhajan talked so much about this. So, obviously doing

something is better than nothing and no one is trying to make anyone feel

guilt. That is your own personal process of how you deal with it and what

you are able to do.

 

I notice a huge difference when I wake

up early before the sun rises and have a full sadhana, as compared to doing

it later in the morning or the day. This time is a quiet time and the energy

is so different then once the sun rises. Anyways, I like to take the slow

and steady approach. Start small and build your practice. Obviously it

will be hard to get up 4AM if you don't normally do so....and go to sleep

late.

 

Here are some videos that we have posted

in the past on SikhNet.com on the subject of Sadhana, Guilt...etc...

 

Sadhana - Video Lecture by Yogi Bhajan

 

Sadhana - Aradhana - Prabhupati

 

Guilt vs. Self-Discipline

 

Getting up Early in the Morning

 

Meditation, Your Mind & Gurbani

Gurumustuk Singh Khalsa

 

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[Guest guest]

Kundalini-Yoga , Guruprem Kaur <guruprem wrote:

>

> Sat Nam Carly,

>

> In the following post you say there is a dichotomy in the practice of

> sadhana, between the religious (Sikh) ritual and the yogic philosophy,

> which is the reason for separating the two practices.

>

> " I didn't mean to imply we absolve the early morning sadhana, I merely

> wanted to throw out a suggestion, what if there were more support

groups

> meeting to chant and practice at 6 am, for example? The reading of the

> Japji at 4 am is a religious ritual, but yoga is a philosophy. There is

> a dichotomy in this practice right now, and I am not afraid to question

> it, because I believe to question things is part of how we become

great. "

>

> The way I perceive the group sadhana is that Japji opens the flow of

> divine energy, yoga opens our chakras, body mind and soul to be able to

> receive and integrate it, chanting mantras sublimely merges our

> consciousness with the Guru's consciousness while clearing away

> subconscious junk and Sadhana Gurdwara takes all that powerful group

> sadhana energy and balances it out.

>

> During a KWTC lecture above the Lungar Hall at the Mother Ashram in

2001

> when Yogiji spoke of the importance of doing sadhana--Japji, yoga and

> the meditations, I asked, " Haven't you also taught how important it is

> to attend Sadhana Gurdwara? "

>

> He answered, " Yes, morning Gurdwara balances sadhana energy in your

> higher chakras so your energy does not fluctuate up and down all day, "

> and then added, as a jab at me, " But if you don't do sadhana, there is

> nothing to balance out! "

>

> At the time I was skipping group sadhana and only attending morning

> Gurdwara.

>

> What I mean to imply is that there is no dichotomy. Yoga and the Guru,

> Guru's words, are solidly united in every Kundalini Yoga Kriya, which

> combine posture, mantra and the breath--Pawan Guru ( " Guru, the air

> element " ). The only dichotomy is in our own minds, where we

consciously

> separate ourselves from our vast personal power by consciously

> separating two of the most powerful technologies on the planet, that

of

> union of body mind and soul, and Gurus' total divine support for all

> ten bodies.

>

> On calling upon the ten Sikh Gurus by name (their phone numbers) their

> sublime energies enter your meditation and prayer to support your

> meditative reach to divine heights and profound, even miraculous

healings.

>

> It is easy and bliss-giving. Allow your meditation to merge with the

> Gurus as Yogiji so often encouraged us, and fully embrace the new age

> that is upon us.

>

> Loving Blessings,

> Guru Prem Kaur

> www.pathoflifetolight.com

>

 

Are you convincing yourself?

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Carly,

Yes, I have thoroughly convinced myself of what I write by living it.

For the past five years my personal sadhana has been 31 minutes of Sat

Kriya every morning to Jaap Sahib, calling on the primal female power

and the ten Gurus to support my reach to Truth, like an Ardas, a prayer.

We use Sat Kriya to wash God's laundry in the Golden Temple, wring it

out, rinse it in the Amrit Sarovar and hang it out to dry in the

heavens, radiating distilled Amrit into the universe, then give

everything back to God.

 

A couple years ago while calling on the female power in Sat Kriya Guru

Gobind Singh placed an image of the earth on my fingertips. It was not

clear why until I realized he wanted to wash the world. That was the

first time they had me do a rinse. Washing the world is my Hukam from

the Guru--they help everyday to ensure it is thorough--all ten bodies.

 

Yogiji said that women have the greatest power to pray for the world.

May you be blessed to find your healing way.

 

Loving Blessings,

Guru Prem Kaur

www.pathoflifetolight.com

[Guest guest]

Dear Guru Prem,

 

I enjoy hearing your words, but I wonder....I enjoy the words of the

Guru but aspects of the 'Sikh current' feel too martial for me. I

love Kundalini Yoga nd also the Aquarian Sadhana but to immerse

myself aslo in worship of the Guru sometimes feels ok sometimes feels

wrong to me. Not because there is anything wrong with the words and

the teachings, I just find the expression through Tantra Bodhi-Dharma

more resonant. Yet I do all the chants of Kundalini YOga and the

practices, I enjoy morning sadhana but its not my relgiion, simply,

part of my path.

 

I understand that many say we are all Sikh's because we're Seekers

but that's not true on a deep level. On a deeper level some are more

connected to that vibe, others to Buddhist, others to xtian, of

course they all meet at some point but the way these paths express

themselves has a different aesthetic. Some soul's are better attuned

to some than others. So what do you think? Cant' we take the

technology of K Yoga and the universality of the other tools FROM

Sikhism but apply these to our path rather than imagining that we're

on the same path, which we're not (although geenrally speaking we

are!) I hope you understand what I'm saying.

 

Sat Nam

Ek Ong Kar Singh

 

Kundalini-Yoga , Guruprem Kaur <guruprem

wrote:

>

> Sat Nam Carly,

>

> In the following post you say there is a dichotomy in the practice

of

> sadhana, between the religious (Sikh) ritual and the yogic

philosophy,

> which is the reason for separating the two practices.

>

> " I didn't mean to imply we absolve the early morning sadhana, I

merely

> wanted to throw out a suggestion, what if there were more support

groups

> meeting to chant and practice at 6 am, for example? The reading of

the

> Japji at 4 am is a religious ritual, but yoga is a philosophy.

There is

> a dichotomy in this practice right now, and I am not afraid to

question

> it, because I believe to question things is part of how we become

great. "

>

> The way I perceive the group sadhana is that Japji opens the flow

of

> divine energy, yoga opens our chakras, body mind and soul to be

able to

> receive and integrate it, chanting mantras sublimely merges our

> consciousness with the Guru's consciousness while clearing away

> subconscious junk and Sadhana Gurdwara takes all that powerful

group

> sadhana energy and balances it out.

>

> During a KWTC lecture above the Lungar Hall at the Mother Ashram in

2001

> when Yogiji spoke of the importance of doing sadhana--Japji, yoga

and

> the meditations, I asked, " Haven't you also taught how important it

is

> to attend Sadhana Gurdwara? "

>

> He answered, " Yes, morning Gurdwara balances sadhana energy in your

> higher chakras so your energy does not fluctuate up and down all

day, "

> and then added, as a jab at me, " But if you don't do sadhana, there

is

> nothing to balance out! "

>

> At the time I was skipping group sadhana and only attending morning

> Gurdwara.

>

> What I mean to imply is that there is no dichotomy. Yoga and the

Guru,

> Guru's words, are solidly united in every Kundalini Yoga Kriya,

which

> combine posture, mantra and the breath--Pawan Guru ( " Guru, the air

> element " ). The only dichotomy is in our own minds, where we

consciously

> separate ourselves from our vast personal power by consciously

> separating two of the most powerful technologies on the planet,

that of

> union of body mind and soul, and Gurus' total divine support for

all

> ten bodies.

>

> On calling upon the ten Sikh Gurus by name (their phone numbers)

their

> sublime energies enter your meditation and prayer to support your

> meditative reach to divine heights and profound, even miraculous

healings.

>

> It is easy and bliss-giving. Allow your meditation to merge with

the

> Gurus as Yogiji so often encouraged us, and fully embrace the new

age

> that is upon us.

>

> Loving Blessings,

> Guru Prem Kaur

> www.pathoflifetolight.com

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Scott,

Yes, there is powerful martial element to Sikhism--the warrior power of

the soul to exist and resist all negation. It is what we feel on seeing

great injustice and cruelty to the innocent, including ourselves.

 

During the time of the Gurus, people were heavily subjugated by Mogul

invaders. The overall response was to be a helpless victim. Victim

consciousness is simply the reverse side of the coin, the flip side

being warrior consciousness. All Guru Gobind Singh did in creating the

Khalsa was to flip the coin. But something else happened that day--he

dipped the whole coin, one's whole consciousness, into Amrit, creating a

sweetness, a saintliness, in perfect balance with the warrior

element--the warrior saints of Khalsa.

 

The reason worship of the Guru feels wrong is because it is. Just love

the Guru, all of them, pour out all your pain when you bow. The void

will be filled with sublime peace and happiness. Truly!

 

The Siri Guru Granth Sahib is like Yogiji, a postman delivering the

teachings, the essence of the Lord, through words. Only the Siri Guru

Granth Sahib does not change. The Word is the Guru in its most subtle

form. And neither the Gurus nor Yogiji cared to be worshipped. Yogiji

claimed he lost a toe because so many people touched his feet.

 

The Siri Guru Granth Sahib has compositions by 36 authors, including

seven of the ten Gurus and Moslem and Hindu saints of a wide range of

castes, from the lowest to the highest. All compositions were chosen

because of their pure power of Naadh--where the sound of the words

relays their meaning. It is written in Gurmukhi script because Gurmukhi

is the font of the people. It is phonetic and, unlike Sanskrit of

India's ancient priestly caste, very easy to learn. Because it is

phonetic, anyone can utter the words as they were originally spoken by

the saints in God consciousness, thereby re-creating that divine

consciousness within themselves. It is a powerful, sacred spiritual

tool, treated with great, loving reverence all around the world. There

is nothing else like it.

 

In Kundalini kriyas I do not worship the Gurus. I simply call on them to

support my reach to Truth and to bless the world. The Gurus and sublime

beings need people like us on earth to help, just as all the saints in

history were needed. Soon we will all be required to live in Christ

consciousness in order to serve the Aquarian Age. It is either that or

be a victim. Use Kundalini Yoga (it's fast!) and the mantras and

Gurubani (they are right on the mark!) to prepare yourself now, while

there is still time.

 

Yes, you do not need to wear a turban and look like a Sikh. The world

needs all realized beings to serve all factions. When I lived in the

Haight Ashbury ashram in the seventies a Jewish fellow joined us. His

goal was to use Kundalini yoga and Guru awareness to help him find a

true Jewish holy man. He did, and brought him to the ashram to meet

everyone, eyes sparkling, his warm heart wide-open--a beautiful soul. I

also saw Yogi Bhajan tell a woman she did not need to be a Sikh. In fact

he told her to join the Hari Krishna movement. It was easy to see how

that group was best suited to her. Also some key members of the Guru's

court and troops were Europeans who brought their special skills to aide

his cause without overtly becoming Sikh.

 

So yes, absolutely, take the technology of Kundalini Yoga and the

universality of the other tools and apply them wherever you see they are

needed. The Heavens will thank you.

 

Loving Blessings,

Guru Prem Kaur

http//:www.pathoflifetolight.com

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your wise understanding and compassion. I think now a

lot of people are taking Kundalini Yoga teachings while working their

own path and thus serving as an example to others. There are so many

teachings and examples for those who want to take the path all the

way and embrace all aspects as a lifestyle but not as many about how

to be yourself, take what works and allow your kundalini to guide you

rather than anyone or anything else. I think I am part of the new

generation of teachers to help that happen.

 

Sat Nam

Scott

 

 

So yes, absolutely, take the technology of Kundalini Yoga and the

> universality of the other tools and apply them wherever you see

they are

> needed. The Heavens will thank you.

>

 

Yes, you do not need to wear a turban and look like a Sikh. The world

> needs all realized beings to serve all factions. When I lived in

the

> Haight Ashbury ashram in the seventies a Jewish fellow joined us.

His

> goal was to use Kundalini yoga and Guru awareness to help him find

a

> true Jewish holy man. He did, and brought him to the ashram to meet

> everyone, eyes sparkling, his warm heart wide-open--a beautiful

soul. I

> also saw Yogi Bhajan tell a woman she did not need to be a Sikh. In

fact

> he told her to join the Hari Krishna movement.

 

 

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , Guruprem Kaur <guruprem

wrote:

>

> Sat Nam Scott,

> Yes, there is powerful martial element to Sikhism--the warrior

power of

> the soul to exist and resist all negation. It is what we feel on

seeing

> great injustice and cruelty to the innocent, including ourselves.

>

> During the time of the Gurus, people were heavily subjugated by

Mogul

> invaders. The overall response was to be a helpless victim. Victim

> consciousness is simply the reverse side of the coin, the flip side

> being warrior consciousness. All Guru Gobind Singh did in creating

the

> Khalsa was to flip the coin. But something else happened that day--

he

> dipped the whole coin, one's whole consciousness, into Amrit,

creating a

> sweetness, a saintliness, in perfect balance with the warrior

> element--the warrior saints of Khalsa.

>

> The reason worship of the Guru feels wrong is because it is. Just

love

> the Guru, all of them, pour out all your pain when you bow. The

void

> will be filled with sublime peace and happiness. Truly!

>

> The Siri Guru Granth Sahib is like Yogiji, a postman delivering

the

> teachings, the essence of the Lord, through words. Only the Siri

Guru

> Granth Sahib does not change. The Word is the Guru in its most

subtle

> form. And neither the Gurus nor Yogiji cared to be worshipped.

Yogiji

> claimed he lost a toe because so many people touched his feet.

>

> The Siri Guru Granth Sahib has compositions by 36 authors,

including

> seven of the ten Gurus and Moslem and Hindu saints of a wide range

of

> castes, from the lowest to the highest. All compositions were

chosen

> because of their pure power of Naadh--where the sound of the words

> relays their meaning. It is written in Gurmukhi script because

Gurmukhi

> is the font of the people. It is phonetic and, unlike Sanskrit of

> India's ancient priestly caste, very easy to learn. Because it is

> phonetic, anyone can utter the words as they were originally spoken

by

> the saints in God consciousness, thereby re-creating that divine

> consciousness within themselves. It is a powerful, sacred spiritual

> tool, treated with great, loving reverence all around the world.

There

> is nothing else like it.

>

> In Kundalini kriyas I do not worship the Gurus. I simply call on

them to

> support my reach to Truth and to bless the world. The Gurus and

sublime

> beings need people like us on earth to help, just as all the saints

in

> history were needed. Soon we will all be required to live in Christ

> consciousness in order to serve the Aquarian Age. It is either that

or

> be a victim. Use Kundalini Yoga (it's fast!) and the mantras and

> Gurubani (they are right on the mark!) to prepare yourself now,

while

> there is still time.

>

> Yes, you do not need to wear a turban and look like a Sikh. The

world

> needs all realized beings to serve all factions. When I lived in

the

> Haight Ashbury ashram in the seventies a Jewish fellow joined us.

His

> goal was to use Kundalini yoga and Guru awareness to help him find

a

> true Jewish holy man. He did, and brought him to the ashram to meet

> everyone, eyes sparkling, his warm heart wide-open--a beautiful

soul. I

> also saw Yogi Bhajan tell a woman she did not need to be a Sikh. In

fact

> he told her to join the Hari Krishna movement. It was easy to see

how

> that group was best suited to her. Also some key members of the

Guru's

> court and troops were Europeans who brought their special skills to

aide

> his cause without overtly becoming Sikh.

>

>

> Loving Blessings,

> Guru Prem Kaur

> http//:www.pathoflifetolight.com

>

[Guest guest]

Agreed with both posters! I've been so busy in this group, talking

about dress and religion, that I forgot that Guru Nanak even himself

didn't call himself a Sikh! We are indeed blessed that Yogi Bhajan

came to North America, and he did not have it easy when he first

arrived here, in Canada, either!

 

I think that our own personal paths or intentions lead us to the

information that we embark upon. Only recently I began reading

articles of YB lectures that made me feel that I needed to be a

certain way, that I was interpreting negatively, but for years all I

ever understood from his lectures were messages of pure love and

knowledge. It's interesting how the ego plays tricks on us.