Life long correspondence with my very Christian (well meaning) mother

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Here is our latest in a long series if correspondence with my Mother.

 

Her e-mail to me this am. (She's doing yoga! o! Wahe guru! Its been a long

road to

get to this point.)

 

Did my Yoga this am. The instructor backs off the philosophy, but shoots out

some hints

about what yogis teach. What I hear seems hopeless and doesn't jive with what I

see. I

don't understand the final outcome is in this philosophy (and all have an

outcome if you

follow the logic all the way through to the end). Any easy way to unpack it for

me?

 

My responce: (God willing it will begin to soak in and shell let go of the fear

that Im going

to burn in hell for all of eternity.)

 

Ill try to summarize it. The mind is conditioned to respond to the circumstances

of life

based on all the past experiences from life. All this " stuff " is stored in the

un-conscience

and sub-conscience mind and in cellular memory in the body and it pops out in to

the

present moment at random or as a result of events that trigger a response. When

unconscious of this fact people go through their life reacting to the

circumstances around

them rather than consciously acting. Many of these responses can take the form

of fear,

judgment, self doubt, attachment, neuroses etc. All this " conditioning " prevents

people

from being who they truly are, who God made them to be. Yoga and meditation

bring you

to a state of awareness often referred to as being present. It is a natural

organic process

that happens often times unbeknownst to the practitioner. As you practice,

little by little

one layer of conditioning (or illusion) at a time is removed as your awareness

expands

allowing you be preset and stop spending your energy on fear, judgment, self

doubt,

attachment, neuroses etc. Allowing you to move through life from a place of

conscious

choices rather than conditioned response. Most people first notice this effect

in their

physical body, which when in tune with its true nature begins craving food and

experiences and circumstances that are supportive to you. It eventually grows as

your

awareness grows on a much more subtle and profound level. When you begin to

remove

this conditioning you become more aware of your " internal guidance system " . Some

people call it internal wisdom or intuition, some people call it Atma, some

people call it

your true or higher self, some people call it the Holy Spirit, some call it God.

Call it what

you like, its the same thing. So as consciousness (awareness) expands and

conditioning is

removed you become free to experience God in your life guiding every step of the

way

with out the " filter " of conditioning (or illusion) distorting your perception

of God. It is not

necessary to understand this process because it happens by its self, without

understanding or contemplation. It happens with or without yoga or effort,

though it can

take much much longer under natural unaided timelines. This is just one way,

though be it

a very effective one, to accomplish the same goal. There are many paths to the

same end.

No hope necessary it just happens.

 

Sat Nam Hari Sadhana Singh

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Kundalini-Yoga , " mtsthrln " <mtsthrln wrote:

> .... It is not necessary to understand this process because it

> happens by its self, without understanding or contemplation.

> It happens with or without yoga or effort, though it can

> take much much longer under natural unaided timelines.

>

 

Hello Hari Sadhana,

I liked the analysis your wrote for your mother a lot.

Are you aware of FM Alexander and his Technique? He believes the

reason we develop this problem is because we have developed

civilisation so quickly that we haven't had time to evolve to cope

with the high amount of stimulus we receive from the outside with our

high paced changing lives and that we generate from the inside with

the number of choices we must make and options we must consider.

We still have the response systems evolved for hunter/gatherers and

just can't handle the modern world.

So tense up again and again without the tension getting released

properly. The Alexander Technique and yoga and many other things

reverse this process. I believe yoga works at a deeper level and can

take us much further faster than AT.

Alexander believed this process can't happen with no effort or help

for most people. We have to conciously work at some practice to get

the changes.

His analysis sounds very believable to me. It is the only place I have

seen a non-religious explanation for why we need to do yoga or other

somatic practice.

Many people in the AT world don't agree with or understand his analysis!

 

Keith.

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Kundalini-Yoga , " BiftonB " <biftonb wrote:

>

> Kundalini-Yoga , " mtsthrln " <mtsthrln@> wrote:

> > .... It is not necessary to understand this process because it

> > happens by its self, without understanding or contemplation.

> > It happens with or without yoga or effort, though it can

> > take much much longer under natural unaided timelines.

> >

>

> Hello Hari Sadhana,

> I liked the analysis your wrote for your mother a lot.

> Are you aware of FM Alexander and his Technique? He believes the

> reason we develop this problem is because we have developed

> civilisation so quickly that we haven't had time to evolve to cope

> with the high amount of stimulus we receive from the outside with our

> high paced changing lives and that we generate from the inside with

> the number of choices we must make and options we must consider.

> We still have the response systems evolved for hunter/gatherers and

> just can't handle the modern world.

> So tense up again and again without the tension getting released

> properly. The Alexander Technique and yoga and many other things

> reverse this process. I believe yoga works at a deeper level and can

> take us much further faster than AT.

> Alexander believed this process can't happen with no effort or help

> for most people. We have to conciously work at some practice to get

> the changes.

> His analysis sounds very believable to me. It is the only place I have

> seen a non-religious explanation for why we need to do yoga or other

> somatic practice.

> Many people in the AT world don't agree with or understand his analysis!

>

> Keith.

>

Sat Nam Kieth Ji. I havnt heard of it. I will look in to it later today. I have

an underlying

belief that spiritual liberation is a naturally occurring process and that all

beings eventually

go back to the source from which they came. This belief is based on my intuition

and optimism. I have no way to prove it but then again who does. Perhaps there

comes a point

in everyones spiritual evolution where effort and contemplation becomes a

natural process

in the path. So perhaps you are right that effort and contemplation are at some

point

necessary. But I dont think it takes conscious effort or contemplation to get to

that point. I

think karma will push us all to our Dharma weather we like it or not. It might

have already

taken 800 million life times for me to get to the point of effort and

contemplation though

so Im all about it at this phase.