Follow up on my conversation with my Mother

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Here is our latest in a long series of correspondence with my Mother. Below is

our

previous interaction, below that is her recent response and mine in turn. I have

asked her

not to engage me in this conversation any longer because it never leads any

where

productive and I have a tenancy of getting angry and defensive and it ruins part

of my day

like today for example I have spent my usual Sadhana time dealing with this and

now have

to do Sadhana this evening. The reason I am posting this is because I would like

your

input on a healthier way to deal with this. Keep in mind that her and I have

been having

this conversation my whole life. I have gone around and around with my stance on

this

topic and at this point I do not believe that I or any one else is going to hell

because of the

fact that I believe that there are more than one way to know God. In other words

Christ's

blood on the cross is not the only way. She insists on pushing her agenda on me

at the

expense of our relationship. I told her to not contact me any more as a result.

What do I

do now???

 

 

Her e-mail to me last week:

Did my Yoga this am. The instructor backs off the philosophy, but shoots out

some hints

about what yogis teach. What I hear seems hopeless and doesn't jive with what I

see. I

don't understand what the final outcome is in this philosophy (and all have an

outcome if

you follow the logic all the way through to the end). Any easy way to unpack it

for me?

 

My responce:

Ill try to summarize it. The mind is conditioned to respond to the circumstances

of life

based on all the past experiences from life. All this " stuff " is stored in the

un-conscience

and sub-conscience mind and in cellular memory in the body and it pops out in to

the

present moment at random or as a result of events that trigger a response. When

unconscious of this fact people go through their life reacting to the

circumstances around

them rather than consciously acting. Many of these responses can take the form

of fear,

judgment, self doubt, attachment, neuroses etc. All this " conditioning " prevents

people

from being who they truly are, who God made them to be. Yoga and meditation

bring you

to a state of awareness often referred to as being present. It is a natural

organic process

that happens often times unbeknownst to the practitioner. As you practice,

little by little

one layer of conditioning (or illusion) at a time is removed as your awareness

expands

allowing you be preset and stop spending your energy on fear, judgment, self

doubt,

attachment, neuroses etc. Allowing you to move through life from a place of

conscious

choices rather than conditioned response. Most people first notice this effect

in their

physical body, which when in tune with its true nature begins craving food and

experiences and circumstances that are supportive to you. It eventually grows as

your

awareness grows on a much more subtle and profound level. When you begin to

remove

this conditioning you become more aware of your " internal guidance system " . Some

people call it internal wisdom or intuition, some people call it Atma, some

people call it

your true or higher self, some people call it the Holy Spirit, some call it God.

Call it what

you like, its the same thing. So as consciousness (awareness) expands and

conditioning is

removed you become free to experience God in your life guiding every step of the

way

with out the " filter " of conditioning (or illusion) distorting your perception

of God. It is not

necessary to understand this process because it happens by its self, without

understanding or contemplation. It happens with or without yoga or effort,

though it can

take much much longer under natural unaided timelines. This is just one way,

though be it

a very effective one, to accomplish the same goal. There are many paths to the

same end.

No hope necessary it just happens

 

 

Her response today:2/06/09

Hi Matt,

We will be here Sunday. I love you, and if you chose not to come because of this

response,

know that I obey the Holy Spirit's leading, and your eternity is more important

to me than

the fact that you don't like an exchange of ideas among two intelligent people.

You don't

know Christianity, yet, you didn't get to know Christ. There is no Yoga for me

to get to

know. I cling to a person, who walked, talked and died for me, and you. You

should

question for yourself why the blood is so offensive to you, because, and I say

this

prayerfully, when you figure that out, you will be enlightened. Yoga or any

other belief

system doesn't offend me, it makes me curious.

 

You sent me a paragraph of Yoga philosophy, and I haven't responded fully to

what you

wrote yet, but I had assumed you were open to figuring out what it is that sets

Christianity

apart from all other world views based on a conversation we had in December

concerning

what God considers an acceptable sacrifice-and it all revolves around the blood

of Christ,

a subject you said you were going to study for yourself. I still can't figure

out what the

end result of Yoga philosophy would be. For Christianity it is spending eternity

with a God

of love, any other world view seems to take paragraphs to explain including all

the things

one has to do to get to a very vague and misty end result. Christianity isn't a

judgment I

make, it is a free gift, and why it has to be one in which God chose to

sacrifice Himself, I

can't answer. But thank God He sacrificed Himself for us. What is it about the

blood? We

have to defend our faith, not be defensive because of it. All paths can't end at

the same

place because they disagree with each other. What is the stadia rod of truth if

it is not

what God says about Himself, and why can't it be an intellectual discussion?

 

I love you, and I'm sure I'm cut off now. Mom

 

 

My reply:

As I told you before I am not interested in continuing this line of conversation

relating to

my spiritual belief system. I asked you to not go there anymore im tired of

hearing it. You

have pushed it to the point where I dont want to deal with you any more since

you insist

on continually pushing your beliefs on me. You said the holy spirit is more

important than

our relationship. So be it you made your choice please leave me alone.

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Matt!

 

Just a few things popped up as I read your post. First of all we are presently in a very unique planetary field. With the new moon and solar eclipse of Monday January 26 through the rare astrological concentration on February 14 we are given the opportunity to let go of what no longer serves us. The Moon in Libra enters the seventh house of relationship and in the presence of the wounded healer Chiron and so is presenting a chance in your relationship with your mom to heal the inner child. A full moon and lunar eclipse this Monday is a powerful energy for you to access and bring a newness to the relationship with your mother. It does not seem as though you really wish to dismiss her, you have chosen her for whatever lessons you chose to learn this lifetime. Remember she is just playing a role for you and your inner growth. I see the correspondence between you two as a battle of wits which really has nothing to do with true inner spiritual growth. Your connection to God is an experience that needs no justification. Her connection also should be her own experience not some rote memorization or playful wording. If you are not yet ready to do the work there is the possibility that you can just agree to disagree for now, or focus on what you two have in common and let go of the differences. The 1000 day Meditation that begins with our incredible Aquarian line up is perfect timing for you and your mother. Heal that relationship and it will have an incredible rippling effect of healing for the whole planet! We are one! In the light of your Soul is such love and compassion for your mother it will outweigh all differences and schisms. Just tune in to it. All the best.

Blessings and Love,

Guru Ravi Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.

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Kundalini-Yoga , gururavikaur wrote:

>

> Sat Nam Matt!

>

> Just a few things popped up as I read your post. First of all we are

> presently in a very unique planetary field. With the new moon and solar

eclipse of

> Monday January 26 through the rare astrological concentration on February 14

> we are given the opportunity to let go of what no longer serves us. The Moon

in

> Libra enters the seventh house of relationship and in the presence of the

> wounded healer Chiron and so is presenting a chance in your relationship with

> your mom to heal the inner child. A full moon and lunar eclipse this Monday is

> a powerful energy for you to access and bring a newness to the relationship

> with your mother. It does not seem as though you really wish to dismiss her,

> you have chosen her for whatever lessons you chose to learn this lifetime.

> Remember she is just playing a role for you and your inner growth. I see the

> correspondence between you two as a battle of wits which really has nothing to

> do with true inner spiritual growth. Your connection to God is an experience

> that needs no justification. Her connection also should be her own

> experience not some rote memorization or playful wording. If you are not yet

ready to

> do the work there is the possibility that you can just agree to disagree for

> now, or focus on what you two have in common and let go of the differences.

> The 1000 day Meditation that begins with our incredible Aquarian line up is

> perfect timing for you and your mother. Heal that relationship and it will

have

> an incredible rippling effect of healing for the whole planet! We are one!

> In the light of your Soul is such love and compassion for your mother it will

> outweigh all differences and schisms. Just tune in to it. All the best.

> Blessings and Love,

> Guru Ravi

> **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on

> AOL Music.

> (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

ncid=emlcntusmusi00000003)

>

Sat nam Ji! Its naad to my soul. Thank you for the insight. I am so ready to

heal and love!

Wahe Guru! Hari Sadhana Singh