Question reg. abundance/financial wealth.

June 10, 2009

Hello,I'm currently working with several kriyas because I have found prosperity has been a difficult issue for me to deal with. I have used a sanskrit prosperity cd that had about 16 mantras and worked with that for about 80 days and at the end of it got a bill from the government but I think it was sort of a sign to be honest when doing your taxes. I also have experience with using a kali mantra (not related to KY) and find using that mantra has been the most dramatic mantra to manifest or make things happen in the material world.

I'm doing my 3rd 40day discipline of the subagh and feel at least it is helping with releasing blocks like anger and I am using 2 others. So far nothing has really happened on the physical level and I am hoping my luck turns around soon.

I think true prosperity means enjoying the work that you do and that it's not just about making lots of money, although having money coming in is always a good thing. I am still doing my own experimenting but I agree that things have to happen on the physical level. It's not enough to feel good. You have to have good intuitions and follow through and be proactive.

PaulaOn 6/10/09, scott_peters81 <scott_peters81 wrote:

Sat Nam,

I am new to this group (and a regular practitioner of Kundalini Yoga). I have a few questions regarding wealth/abundance/prosperity - all this seem to be very 'in' these days, because it's something everyone is looking for, and I'm sure you regulary get asked questions about how to get more money etc. But I am curious. Have any you actually been successful when it comes to applying specific wealth mantra's or kriya sets and then actually a big load of $$? I always get told that Kundalini yoga is so amazing and powerful, but quite often I think it's more of a feeling than anything that actually manifests on the physical plane. I often read how amazing people feel etc. but their physical lives (or prosperity) still sucks. How so? Is there an imbalance? And the great question; Are you wealthy as in financially rich? To some extend I do think that money can buy you happiness and freedom (bills are paid, plenty of food, nice place to live, good steady job and no financial worries). I would like to keep this thread very down to earth. I tried to approach my teacher with the same question, but he got lost in outta space and started mumbling in a foreign New Age language which I don't understand. Therefore this thread.

So if you want to attract money into your life which specific sets would you suggest? What have your experience been with kriya's, mantra's and gaining wealth?

Sat Nam,

Scott in N.Y

June 11, 2009

Sat nam Scott and group,

It has been a long time since I posted.

Guru Rattana makes a great point in her

lesson on prosperity. She was saying how she was financially poor although

doing hours of meditating a day and Yogi Bhajan being so grateful for her doing

all this literary work. (So where is my $$$?) I think she said that

if you are not home (grounded, centered, and in your body and doing your souls

purpose) the post man cannot bring you the checks.

My understanding of this and experience

is its not what set you do but the intention you bring to it, the daily

practice of it, relaxing into it (your body), and making sure what you are

doing is what you soul wants you to do and not what the ego needs to feel

comforted.

In short my experience has been first to

get clarity (with the help of a guru, intuition, counselor, friend, or self if

you are clear enough to do this) on your situation (why there is no $$$$), and

then engage fully and in a relaxed manner (without fear [check out the mool

mantra too], your yoga and meditation practice. Also maybe set some goals: some

people find this useful and others not.

For me as a self employed workshop presenter

and bodyworker I needed to begin to outline a plan for new work and clients so

set up some weekly goals that would manifest clients and seminars down the

line.

A last note: the 80/20 rule in business

gives insight into human nature: In any system or organization 20 % of

the people do 80 % of the work. Once I realized I was not in the 20% and

my work was reflecting this I made some painful behavioral changes to get

closer to that 20%: its still happening but I am not afraid of loosing my home

anymore.

Marty Kestin,

sarabjot singh in Charlotte

" We can't solve

problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. " - Albert

Einstein

June 12, 2009

Sat Nam Scott,

It's perhaps hard to separate due to how tightly money and success is tied

together and ingrained into Western philosophy... but may help to look at

prosperity a little differently than being related directly to money.

I actually have done a 40 day regimen of prosperity visualizations,

affirmations, meditations and mantras, and I did get some really interesting

results. I got business calls offering to buy my company out of the blue, as

well as some other interesting occurrences. (Did I get rich? No... for numerous

reasons - all my own doing... But did I gain some rich experiences? Certainly I

did!)

You see, when we talk about prosperity in Kundalini Yoga, this is a process more

about removing the blocks you have to your own prosperity. It's about opening up

to the flow of life, and aligning yourself to think BIG and tune into

opportunities. If this leads to actual monetary prosperity, well, that's up to

your own hard work and commitment.

If you look at the definition of prosperity, it is " the condition having good

fortune " . So, prosperity work is the process of conditioning yourself, much like

an athlete keeps themselves in shape. But also... what is considered " fortunate "

to some may not be money. And in fact, if the saying the money cannot buy you

happiness is true, then perhaps money is the last thing you will get (for your

own good!)

Here's another way to look at prosperity directly from Guru Nanak...

http://www.dasvandh.org/meditations/25th-pauri-japji-bahuta-karam

And here's a bit of the translation:

Line 1: " God's bounties cannot be recorded " - i.e. don't try to measure your

prosperity in $$$'s or any other form of accounting

Line 6: " Many obtain gifts again and again yet do not admit this " - i.e. count

your blessings as your prosperity as your first step, maybe it will change your

perspective to see more fortunes around you

Lines 8 & 9: " Many suffer pain and are continuously punished. Even these are God's

gifts (as a warning to be virtuous) " - i.e. Perhaps the lack of $$$ or

misfortunes are a sign for some that they need to listen harder and change their

ways. From pain, emerges pleasure.

Lines 14 & 15: " God knows everything and gives everything. Only a few acknowledge

this. " i.e. - Everything you need is already in front of you, you just need to

surrender your desires first to gain everything.

So, you see, prosperity is this sense is a lot about giving up your desires,

opening up to the flow, and seeing the opportunities and blessings in other

ways. Once you open up to this potential, you begin to see prosperity and riches

in everything and in every situation. Open up your sensitivities and give

yourself up to complete acceptance to " become the King of Kings " (line 17).

Yours,

Fateh Singh

June 12, 2009

Couple more ways to open up to the flow...

" Wealth " comes from the olde English " wela " , " weal " or " wele " - which also means

" well-being " .

" Prosperity " can also be defined as " blessings " , " progress " , or even it's close

cousin " thrift " ! (something that we may all be experiencing these days... after

all, " a penny saved... " )

June 12, 2009

Sat Nam Scott and all,

Yes, we are wealthy, (if that makes you feel better) retired at 35, and let me

tell you, wealth never comes to those who sit around and wait. Never. (Well,

unless you win the lottery, of course) You have to go and apply yourself, find

your true calling and work your butt off. If that's what your wish is, of

course. Sitting around and chanting mantras are not going to change a thing

unless you actually go and do something about it. What mantras do, is they

reprogram your mind and remove obstacles in YOUR OWN mind so you can go and do

whatever is that you meant to be doing. They change your magnetic field and the

magnetic field around you where it becomes easier for you to find your purpose,

meet the right people under the right circumstances and " align the stars for

you " . They help you to get tuned in with the signs that God is constantly giving

you, help you to interpret those and utilize in a manner that can be productive.

But there is no shortcuts, you still have to work. Hard.

One more thing, what mantras and meditation do is open your eyes to the

incredible abundance of opportunities for making money. World is in great need

of change, so if you can look beyond your own needs for personal wealth and

recognize what actually needs to be done, money will sure to come.

Sat Nam,

Elena

> On 6/10/09, scott_peters81 <scott_peters81 wrote:

> >

> > Sat Nam,

> >

> > I am new to this group (and a regular practitioner of Kundalini Yoga). I

> > have a few questions regarding wealth/abundance/prosperity - all this seem

> > to be very 'in' these days, because it's something everyone is looking for,

> > and I'm sure you regulary get asked questions about how to get more money

> > etc. But I am curious. Have any you actually been successful when it comes

> > to applying specific wealth mantra's or kriya sets and then actually a big

> > load of $$? I always get told that Kundalini yoga is so amazing and

> > powerful, but quite often I think it's more of a feeling than anything that

> > actually manifests on the physical plane. I often read how amazing people

> > feel etc. but their physical lives (or prosperity) still sucks. How so? Is

> > there an imbalance? And the great question; Are you wealthy as in

> > financially rich? To some extend I do think that money can buy you happiness

> > and freedom (bills are paid, plenty of food, nice place to live, good steady

> > job and no financial worries). I would like to keep this thread very down to

> > earth. I tried to approach my teacher with the same question, but he got

> > lost in outta space and started mumbling in a foreign New Age language which

> > I don't understand. Therefore this thread.

> >

> > So if you want to attract money into your life which specific sets would

> > you suggest? What have your experience been with kriya's, mantra's and

> > gaining wealth?

> >

> > Sat Nam,

> > Scott in N.Y

> >

>

June 13, 2009

I like what Marty said. This is a great question. I was thinking of posting

something similar recently. Kundalini Yoga does make you feel great, or high.

But, we still need to be on track as far as using our talents, staying

organized, and being responsible and honest re: our financial commitments. I am

currently experiencing both financial challenge and also prosperity. My cash

flow has slipped, yet my net worth, (after starting KY) has continued to climb.

I have read all I can about money, investing, etc...There is a wealth of

information on line. For years I resisted writing down what I spend, adding up

my totals, comparing it to last year, etc...but since then I have learned that

bookeeping has a magical affect on finances. I now own my tiny home on a large

piece of land in LA outright. I recently started my own business, using my

passion and life's work: teaching Ballet, Hatha Yoga, and Kundalini Yoga. It

takes time. If things go according to plan, the business will be valuable down

the line. The tax deductions are excellent, and I am working for myself, which

suits my temperment. I live very frugally, and always have. I have studied

people who have been successful with money, and they don't live like

celebrities. They invest in their future. KY can keep you feeling inspired and

motivated to set and achieve your goals. The personal changes I've made have

been equally as important as the KY, meditation, and mantras. Suze Ormann,

Thomas Stanley, and T. Harv Ecker's books have all heled me greatly. KY brings

in master energy. My goal is to master money and create a healthy relationship

with it.

Satpal Kaur

June 13, 2009

Thanks for the great responses.

I have a question, when it comes to mantra's, is it okay if I whisper them out?

I have a small baby daughter who sleeps very badly and loud chanting would wake

her up.

Sat Nam,

Scott

Kundalini-Yoga , " Elena " <elena.forums wrote:

>

> Sat Nam Scott and all,

>

> Yes, we are wealthy, (if that makes you feel better) retired at 35, and let me