Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 A former employer of mine, the libertarian Cato Institute (www.cato.org), which is the most clicked on think tank on the internet and is the think tank with the most references in media stories, has posted at its blog an agreement with the yogis alarmed at the movement of state governments to subject our market to suffocating regulation. Having lobbied for 2 decades, I'll be glad to answer any questions on the pros and cons of regulation. Please familiarize yourself with this threat, so you are prepared to participate in any needed grassroots effort in the future, most likely to minimize the damage these bureaucrats and their political overseers are going to impose on us, whether we like it or not. And if you're a type that likes government, please ponder the old saying that, " what government can do FOR you, eventually can do TO you " ! Regulation never is good. It simply is corporate welfare to the larger companies (in this case, the larger yoga franchises), that have the funds to comply with the barriers to entry. Smaller, less popular offerings will disappear, just as happens in all markets that are regulated. And all markets are regulated - there is no such thing as a free market. Here's Cato's comment on the New York Times story: from: http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/07/10/yoga-instructors-enemies-of-the-states\ /#more-8057 (It's best to go to the link to read it in its original presentation, but I've pasted it below). Yoga Instructors: Enemies of the State(s) Posted by Tad DeHaven The NY Times reports today on various state government efforts to regulate yoga classes by forcing instructors to obtain a government license. I'm not going to get into why government licensing is a pernicious racket here. Rather, I just want to make a point about the nature of the mini–Washington DCs currently in charge of laundering Uncle Sam's so-called economic " stimulus " money. From the NYT article: In March, Michigan gave schools on the list one week to be certified by the state or cease operations. Virginia's cumbersome licensing rules include a $2,500 sign-up fee — a big hit for modest studios that are often little more than one-room storefronts. Lisa Rapp, who owns My Yoga Spirit in Norfolk, Va., said she had canceled her future classes and was preparing to close her seven-year-old business this summer. " This caused us to shut down the studio all together, " Ms. Rapp said. " It's too bad, because this community really needs yoga. " A nice little story to keep in mind the next time you hear some politician or government apologist claim that the states' current inability to spend as they did before the recession is somehow endangering an economic recovery. I think what disgusts me the most about this story is the fact that the yoga " industry " opened itself up for attack by creating an online registry " to establish teaching standards in an effort to have the industry regulate itself. " As a friend sarcastically intoned to me in an email, " They tried to self-regulate and Leviathan just ended up using it to impose regulation. Brilliant. " The NYT captures the mentality of these bureaucratic thugs: The conflict started in January when a Virginia official directed regulators from more than a dozen states to an online national registry of schools that teach yoga and, in the words of a Kansas official, earn a " handsome income " in the process… " If you're going to start a school and take people's money, you should play by a set of rules, " said Patrick Sweeney, a Wisconsin licensing official, who believes that in 2004 he was the first state official to discover the online registry and use it to begin regulating yoga teaching. The bright side is that these yoga instructors are feeling the government's boot on their throat and not liking it: Brette Popper, a co-founder of Yoga City NYC, a Web site that has closely chronicled licensing developments, said that the yoga community — described on the site as " a group that doesn't even always agree about how to pronounce `Om' " — was finally uniting around a common enemy. (Emphasis mine.) The NYT quotes one regulation opponent as saying the conflict is about " bureaucracy versus freedom. " Amen, my friend. I don't know much about yoga, and I'm as flexible as steel, but today we lovers of liberty are all yoga instructors! Tad DeHaven • July 10, 2009 @ 3:02 pm Filed under: Regulatory Studies; Tax and Budget Policy Tags: economic stimulus, regulation, rent-seeking, Yoga Charles D. Frohman 202-258-8027 My profiles at: LinkedIn and Facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hello all,Well I live in Canada so I don't know if there is talk to regulate yoga but I don't think it's a bad thing as there have been a couple of posts against it.Paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 'I think what disgusts me the most about this story is the fact that the yoga " industry " opened itself up for attack by creating an online registry " to establish teaching standards in an effort to have the industry regulate itself. " '---I don't think this government licensing phenomenon is a backlash of the Yoga Alliance trying to establish certification guidelines. As it stands now, our national yoga community has very loose regulations--200, 500 hr, but as we all the know, the content and caliber of each training program can differ greatly across the country. This is more about government seeing potential $ in this popular and ever-growing industry, and wanting to capitalize on it. So its not our 'self-regulation' that is bringing this attention on, but rather our success. We are all shining lighthouses, creating more lights and bundles of joy, which is going to attract people who what to reap the benefits of our actions without doing any of the work. I think that if we get too preoccupied with making money or personal/studio popularity, then that is going to attract more physical restriction and attention. We have to stay on our toes with the changing climates and keep our practices aligned with the true yogic message of what we do, and why we do it. Then we can fight any government impositions with the logic, honesty, and eloquence we will need. We are charting new territory and need to keep our minds sharp and support each other with the challenges we face. Sat nam, Kehar Kaur > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Sounds relevant. Siri Bandhu Humble Moderator www.ottawaweddingsyourway.com Kundalini-Yoga , "Joanna" <jkoslowsky wrote:>> 'I think what disgusts me the most about this story is the fact that the yoga "industry" opened itself up for attack by creating an online registry "to establish teaching standards in an effort to have the industry regulate itself."'---I don't think this government licensing phenomenon is a backlash of the Yoga Alliance trying to establish certification guidelines. As it stands now, our national yoga community has very loose regulations--200, 500 hr, but as we all the know, the content and caliber of each training program can differ greatly across the country. This is more about government seeing potential $ in this popular and ever-growing industry, and wanting to capitalize on it. So its not our 'self-regulation' that is bringing this attention on, but rather our success. We are all shining lighthouses, creating more lights and bundles of joy, which is going to attract people who what to reap the benefits of our actions without doing any of the work. > I think that if we get too preoccupied with making money or personal/studio popularity, then that is going to attract more physical restriction and attention. We have to stay on our toes with the changing climates and keep our practices aligned with the true yogic message of what we do, and why we do it. Then we can fight any government impositions with the logic, honesty, and eloquence we will need. We are charting new territory and need to keep our minds sharp and support each other with the challenges we face. > > Sat nam,> Kehar Kaur > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Kehar Kaur wrote:'I think what disgusts me the most about this story is the fact that the yoga "industry" opened itself up for attack by creating an online registry "to establish teaching standards in an effort to have the industry regulate itself."'--- I don't think this government licensing phenomenon is a backlash of the Yoga Alliance trying to establish certification guidelines. As it stands now, our national yoga community has very loose regulations- -200, 500 hr, but as we all the know, the content and caliber of each training program can differ greatly across the country. This is more about government seeing potential $ in this popular and ever-growing industry, and wanting to capitalize on it. So its not our 'self-regulation' that is bringing this attention on, but rather our success. I respond: Absolutely, Kehar. My friend Tad was wrong to blame the innovative Yoga Alliance for the typical government exploitation we're now seeing in a growing number of states to regulate yoga. Maybe the author was caught on the statements of the regulators, such as Wisconsin's Sweeney (see the original New York Times article) who said his idea of yoga regulation came from seeing the Yoga Alliance registry. It's sick that this bureaurcrat would blame his violent act (taking income from people at the point of a gun, since guns will be used if you try to avoid paying taxes, and threatening yogis with fines, again at the point of a gun, if they violate the pending regulations) on a peaceful, productive act (the registry) by a private entity (Yoga Alliance). It doesn't matter what the bureaucrat uses as his excuse to smother an industry - he should be blamed, not the alliance. Thanks again Kehar. Amar Atma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Sat Nam I agree with you on the regulation of yoga. I do not understand the statement: " Regulation never is good. " If this would be true then you must think all environmental laws are not good. You don't appreciate clean water or clean air and want to have companies put any chemicals they want into foods? The laws regulating worker's safety and go back to the day of Upton Sinclair's " The Jungle " . No consumer protection? Caveat Emptor? The nearly unanimous knock on the current recession is that it is caused by a rescinding of the laws protecting the economy since the Great Depression and the lack of regulation. It seems to me that there needs to be regulation with consciousness in most things. GuruBandhu > And if you're a type that likes government, please ponder the old saying that, " what government can do FOR you, eventually can do TO you " ! Regulation never is good. It simply is corporate welfare to the larger companies (in this case, the larger yoga franchises), that have the funds to comply with the barriers to entry. Smaller, less popular offerings will disappear, just as happens in all markets that are regulated. And all markets are regulated - there is no such thing as a free market. Here's Cato's comment on the New York Times story: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 GURUBANCHU WROTE: I agree with you on the regulation of yoga. I do not understand the statement: " Regulation never is good. " I RESPOND: Perhaps I should have said " regulation, if done by the government, never is good " . Because regulating oneself actually is a good thing. Indeed, the best regulation there is, in the market, is reputation. If one loses his or her credibility, ones reputation suffers and the business goes bankrupt (unless your business is " too big to fail, in which case Bush and then Obama gives you a taxpayer bailout). That's why we gain so much in a market free of unnecessary red tape. The more red tape from bureaucracies, the less choice we get in the market. John Stossel in this 20/20 report demonstrated how rules mess up society's spontaneous order, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT50WKG1Tgg GURUBANDHU WROTE: If this would be true then you must think all environmental laws are not good. You don't appreciate clean water or clean air and want to have companies put any chemicals they want into foods? I RESPOND: How can we presume that the only way to clean our water and air is with the theft of taxes from workers, to fund bureaucrats to do the cleaning? There'a another solution to pollution ignored by the mainstream media, and that's because the government is the biggest offender of all. It's called " making polluters pay " , but governments have sovereign immunity from being sued - Ms Ruwart explains it best from her classic, " Healing Our World " : http://www.ruwart.com/environ.lpn.wpd.html. As far as knowing the ingredients in what we consume, plenty of organic companies today label with pride their healthful contents - indeed, many of our yogi friends are prohibited by the FDA from advertising even more on their label. The problem here is, obviously, government. GURUBANCHU WROTE: The laws regulating worker's safety and go back to the day of Upton Sinclair's " The Jungle " . No consumer protection? Caveat Emptor? I RESPOND: How much opportunity cost have we suffered for the decision by our government to smother the economy with controversial regulations based on anecdotes and alarmist stories like those published by the noted statist Sinclair? I and H.L. Mencken recommend the other Sinclair, the vastly superior writer Sinclair Lewis, to get the other side of the issue, how " do gooder " disease leads to the " law of unintended consequences " . As for " consumer protection " , the best protection from unscrupulous shysters is " caveat emptor " , for the buyer to be skeptical. Regulations only build " moral hazard " , where people naively think regulations are going to protect them from harm. Indeed, the best regulator in the market is " reputation " , wherein bad behavior by a producer necessarily will lead to bankruptcy. Industrialization relieved poor tenant farmers from a life of drudgery, and expanding trade leads factory workers to improved conditions once high prices bring better companies into markets. You can't improve these conditions by snapping your fingers and establishing a rule. GURUBANDHU: The nearly unanimous knock on the current recession is that it is caused by a rescinding of the laws protecting the economy since the Great Depression and the lack of regulation. I RESPOND: What makes the " lack of regulation " the unanimously agreed cause of our worsening recession? The state of the art in political economic analysis comes from the University of Chicago's Journal of Law and Economics, and no one in their right mind believes that there is a lack of regulation in the financial market. As a former lobbyist for the mortgage brokers, title insurers and federal credit unions, and having earned a living in the mortgage industry, I can assure you that there is no lack of regulation - there are literally DOZENS of laws and regulations diverting a huge percentage of business income to compliance - income that should instead going to supplying consumer demand. What aggravates recessions into depressions, like is happening now and which happened in the 30s, is the mere existence of a central government bank - called the Federal Reserve over the past 100 years. Subsidizing interest rates and lending, the Federal Reserve sends false signals to entrepreneurs, who malinvest, leading inevitably to a Bust, which we're in now. See www.lewrockwell.com. GURUBANDHU WROTE: It seems to me that there needs to be regulation with consciousness in most things. I WROTE: Today's conscious bureaucrat will be tomorrow's manipulative regulator. Just as people didn't want the eminent George Washington to be King, even though he was trustworthy, we don't want to empower unelected regulators, even if they're your best friend this year. Next year he'll be a less friendly replacement. CONCLUSION: Folks, we've arrived at kundalini yoga to empower our souls. Let's continue this advanced learning by taking that curiousity to politics as well - don't just believe the simplistic mainstream experts. Do your own investigations. Google " Reason magazine " , " Cato Institute " , " Lew Rockwell blog " , and go to www.infowars.com. Short readings every day will get you to a place where, as Yogi Bhajan said, you no longer can be controlled. Sat nam, Amar Atma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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