let's stick to kundalini

August 6, 2009

It is my experience that Kundalini Yoga is more than just the Asana

and meditation practice, it is

a lifestyle for the householder. Yoga is not only what we do on our

sheepskin or mat, but how we practice

in the real world and how we bring it into our daily lives and jobs.

And how we can bring our calm, light and

energy to projects that can uplift and help all.

With that in mind, I like to be kept up to date on the ongoing

challenges to our way of life (the case of New York Yoga

studio's being required to pay large fees to the Dept. of Education

just to stay in business) or decisions that could affect it

(in the case of healthcare reform and understanding the enormous

lobbying efforts of the Pharmaceutical Businesses).

I also believe in building grass root support for what we do believe

in, availability of nutritional supplements, organic food, alternative

healthcare options, and an option of different Yoga Studio's to

practice at.

One can always opt to ignore the posts that are of no interest to

them, I do.

Blessings,

Simran Kaur

August 6, 2009

Dear Paula, Sat Nam --

I appreciate your request to " stick to the topic " - I began as a teacher of

Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan in January 20 1970. What is was that

inspired me most was the vastness and the mastery of his teachings. As he said,

" There are 22 classic branches of yoga (unlike the millions of pop-cereal

flavors of yoga you can find today, commercially), AND Kundalini Yoga is the

ROOT system of all the other branches. Kundalini Yoga is the " Yoga of

Awareness " pure and simple, and so it is quite true that " anaything you can be

aware of " can be approached as an experience and excursion into Kundalini Yoga.

In fact, without this basic human condition of awareness (ie., " Kundalini " ) no

other knowledge is even possible. Therefore, to MASTER the root basis for

knowledge in any other system, Kundalini mastery is required. If we don't

master the " kundalini of whatever it is " what we propose as " knowledge " remains

merely opinion. SO, if these discussions of ANY topic are tied to the

phenomenological experience of what the Kundalini is, does and delivers, then

THAT inquiry is legitimately a proper interest for Kundalini Yoga.

I'm essentially agreeing with Amar Atma Singh, that IF a question or discussion

is rooted in these teachings in some (or any authentic) way, THEN that

discussion is legitimate within the context of teachings of Yogi Bhajan. This

is a radically shifted paradigm from any " worldly, casual, convenient, merely

pragmatic " system of human culture. It is a Science, it is profound, and it

does allow for all legitimate possibilities.

And so, as Simran Kaur suggested, if someone other than myself or your self has

encountered a connection or need for clarification of anything in their lives in

relation to their experience or practice of Kundalini reality, even if that

topic seems to me or to you to be the furthest thing we could imagine in our own

practice, we have to re-examine our personal biases in order to expand our

personal possibilities for experience. In this expanding Universe, we will

never have a shortage of opportunity for surprises. Whether the surprise shakes

us or blesses us will depend on how open we are to allow for vastness beyond

what we've ever known yet.

As SSS Yogiji said, " Never limit your students. " So we can be a student of

every experience, and every person is potentially your student in whatsoever way

you have achieved mastery. But the scope of your mastery can never be a limit

to the scope of someone else's master. So it's necessary to realize that your

students may also be masters in other areas, and any criticisms we might make of

their interests may be inappropriate to their own needs for growth and

self-evolution. If, on the other hand, their interest or pursuit is flawed or

missing in something you have to contribute, then we can support them.

Otherwise, we can live and let live.

for many Blessings,

Krishna Singh

Kundalini-Yoga , Paula Lucidi <plucidi wrote:

>

> Greetings all,

>

> I joined this group about 2 months ago because I was interested in kundalini

> yoga since I've been practising it for several months. I think if people

> want to talk about health care reform and about home schooling and whatever

> else, there are other forums and email groups out there that they can join

> and maybe learn how to become more proactive in these fields.

>

> Why don't we actually focus on meditation and kundalini yoga and how it

> helps us and can help others and what our experiences and questions are.

>

> Thanks,

> Paula

>

August 6, 2009

I wanted to take a moment to respond to the proposal of " let's stick to

Kundalini " . The main reason that I became a Kundalini yoga instructor and fell

in love with this practise is that it did not reek of the elitism of other

spiritual practises that I have encountered. It is all about being in the world

- not renunciating the world or separating yourself in any way. This yoga is

for the Householder and the technology of Kundalini is one that spills over into

every area of life. It is not something you put on a shelf and keep separate.

It is something that I use from moment to moment, whether I am carpooling kids

to school, attending a meeting at work or simply spending time alone.

That said, trying to restrict this forum to only Kundalini & Meditation, I

believe, would certainly take away from the richness, diversity & wisdom that we

learn from shared experience. Every day life and meeting it's challenges is a

meditation in and of itself. Bringing consciousness to all of life's areanas,

creating community and learning together creates an energy that integrates,

propells and expands. It is certainly not about imposing limitations as there

is a teaching in every experience.

I am happy to skip the posts that do not resonate with me at that moment in

time. I would certainly not want to sacrifice the richness of this community by

imposing limitations. We have enough rules & regulations in my opinion and I

believe the moderators that review the posts do a wonderful job.

You can't see God at all until you see God in All

Suzanne

August 7, 2009

I agree with Suzanne. I have been practicing Kundalini & Hatha Yoga and

meditation for 23 years. My experience has been that my practice opened me to

other ways of living in the world. In other words, before yoga and meditation I

was a pretty shallow person. Through the yogic practices, I became aware of the

environment, others around me and their needs - whether they were yogis or not -

and eventually led me to be an activist in some area - all because of yoga. So

for me, there is no distinction between these things. If is all part of life &

part of the process. No one is required all the posts, but let's don't exclude

any either.

Kundalini-Yoga , " suzanne_winlove " <suzanne_winlove

wrote:

>

> I wanted to take a moment to respond to the proposal of " let's stick to