Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 "what to eat" constantly nags at us, so hopefully I wouldn't be alone in requesting 3HO diet experts to comment on this anti-vegetarian diatribe from a writer whose thoughts usually please me:http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/35416.html#more-35416what is the rebuttal?Blessings,Amar Atma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Sat Nam All There is not one way to eat for everyone. Besides all this and by the way yes to the rice and corn water soaker concept so eat less water consuming grains such as Quinoa, Amaranth, Millet etc. The real meat factor is how longs it takes to digest and yet the Buddhists eat meat and they are the ultimate meditators of duration. So Think of the carbon foot print of eating meat. They have and are continuing to deforest hugh tracts of land in the Amazon to graze cattle. Then there is the transportation carbon foot print of hauling this dead cows all over the world for distribution. This alone is what is making vegetarians out of environmentalists. Then remember each person has to do their research and make their own decisions on the touch stone of their own consciousness. I remember Yogi Bhajan telling he once did 40 day of just meat and that he had a mini heart attack. He loved to do everything in the extreme. I personally can't imagine eating meat. I personally know students who have studied with me for years who cannot give meat up. This path is about consciousness not creating more guilt. We have the 40. 90. 120. 1000 days for a reason. Become your own double blind study and try being a vegan or a vegetarian it will speak deeply to you and you will know from the inside out when you teach about this subject. Blessings Gurutej Gurutej follow me www.twitter.com/gurutej www.theenergygurus.com www.gurutej.com follow me http://www.theenergyguru.blogspot.com/ " Diamonds or Dust the choice is yours both are created by pressure " . What do you do with yours? 310-734-6776 Kundalini-Yoga , " Charles D. Frohman " <cfroh wrote: > > " what to eat " constantly nags at us, so hopefully I wouldn't be alone in requesting 3HO diet experts to comment on this anti-vegetarian diatribe from a writer whose thoughts usually please me: > > http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/35416.html#more-35416 > > what is the rebuttal? > > Blessings, > Amar Atma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Dear Atma, Sat Nam Oddly enough you have made me want to read that book. Who knows, maybe he is right? These days it's getting harder to know what is true and real and what isn't. Best wishes, Sukhnivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 This is very interesting to me. In my experience, meat eaters tend to always defend eating meat; vegetarians always defend eating only vegetarian, etc. However, I believe there are some (like me, for instance), who do better eating some animal protein. I have cut my intake way down, but I still do eat some animal protein. I suppose I will never be able to take Amrit and become a "full" Sikh because of that behavior, but I am a Sikh in my heart, and I believe that is what counts. I only eat organic; I always bless and thank my food; and when I teach or hold any special Kundalini events, I request "all vegetarian" as far as food items. But in the privacy of my own home, I eat meat. Does this make me a bad person? A bad Sikh? A toxic, foul, impure being? I don't think so. I don't believe God will judge me for this. As for drugs, alcohol, nicotine - no problem there. Those things ARE toxic to our bodies, and there has been plenty of proof to that end. However, I do not believe there truly is any proof that eating animal protein is truly toxic. Some blood types do much better with certain animal proteins and no horribly on grains, breads, pastas and beans. I have a soy allergy and must be very careful about what I consume if there is soy in it. I eat very healthy, in moderate amounts and when I eat only vegetarian (which I did try for 6 months), I do not feel good physically, emotionally or mentally. So there you have it, Amar Atma - just one person's comments. I'm definitely not a 3HO diet expert, but I know what my body needs, and I believe honoring that is as important as Sadhana, yoga and prayer. I am interested to know what others say regarding this article. A never-to-be full Sikh - But a Sikh in my heart, Guru Jiwan Kaur Corrales, New Mexico "We are born perfectly spiritual beings, and spirit has no limit. We were born to have a human experience. Practice kindness, compassion and caring." ~ Yogi Bhajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Why People Must Be Vegetarian Milk & Milk Products, Are They Any Good? The Yoga Of Nutrition by Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov In The Yoga Of Nutrition Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov provides esoteric teachings on the subject of food, nutrition and diet. www.cygnus-books.co.uk/the-yoga-of-nutrition-omr... - 63k - Similar pages amarjit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Sat Nam, Us humans (read: monkeys) are omnivores, meaning we have the capacity to eat anything! Thank God. The best way to tell this is by our teeth, which are evolved for many tasks. Grinders, chompers, and cutters (I do believe " chompers " is the scientific term) allow us to grind, chomp and cut tough veggies, crack nuts, as well tear sinewy meats. But it's not like they evolved with specific portions devoted to specific tasks like this for no reason, or just by chance. If you take the number of teeth in your mouth and compare each ones' tasks to the total amount, you get some interesting numbers. Since 12 of our 32 teeth are specific to grinding tough grains and grasses, then you could theorize that 3/8ths (37.5%) of our diet should (or could) be for fibrous leafy produce or greens. You'll see that only 4 out of our 32 teeth are meant specifically for meat easting tasks. Therefore, you can theorize that 1/8th (12.5%) of our diet should (or could) be meat. The remaining 50% of our diet should (or could) probably be fruits, beans, nuts and veggies and whatever else. That's just a theory a friend and I came up with... But it makes sense to me intuitively. That being said, as a yogi, naturalist, animal lover and environmentalist, I have cut out the 1/8th meat portion of my diet and replaced it with chocolate ice cream. -=Fateh Singh=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Great thread. Children are very in tune with what their body wants to eat. I think it also has to do with how much physical activity you are getting. When I was growing up, we ate a lot of beef because my father owned cattle. I remember getting sick of steak and not wanting it anymore. My youngest brother didn't eat any meat at all. I ate mostly fruit, finished off the leftover salad at dinner, and enjoyed the delicious dinners that my mother cooked. Now, I still eat mostly fruit, vegetables, bake my own breads, and eat some meat and poultry. Moderation works for me. I think if you get too fanantical about food and use energy trying to control others, that will foul up your system. Just enjoying your food and making the best choices for you creates harmony and gratitude. Food is a great pleasure. We have such a variety, and where I live I can grow a lot of my own produce. It's very rewarding. I remember a discussion at Kripalu many years ago around Thanksgiving about how sometimes Yoga students were rude to their mothers who had cooked a nice meal that they refused to eat because they were now vegetarians. I was guilty of that as a vegetarian. I just read a book by Laura Ingalls Wilder and her daughter. When they were struggling pioneers she just had brown bread with bacon grease to eat every day. Boy did that wake me up! Their crops didn't survive: they lost their homestead and all that they put into it. When they eventually settled in the Ozarks, and built a productive farm, they never left. They really appreciated the orchard, chickens, cattle, etc...I like that pioneer spirit. Satpal Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Satpal Kaur, Thanks for your post. Getting close to nature, and eating what feels right sounds like a good message. Regarding the book you read by Wilder's daughter, what's the name of that book? Was her daughter's name Rose Wilder Lane? If so, Lane is one of the premier writers of the 20th century. Her " Discovery of Freedom " from 1943 is one of the best history books ever written. Some yogis may enjoy this speech Lane gave: http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.2707 Sat nam, Amar Atma Kundalini-Yoga , " awakenedsoul2001 " <balletstef wrote: > > Great thread. Children are very in tune with what their body wants to eat. I think it also has to do with how much physical activity you are getting. When I was growing up, we ate a lot of beef because my father owned cattle. I remember getting sick of steak and not wanting it anymore. My youngest brother didn't eat any meat at all. I ate mostly fruit, finished off the leftover salad at dinner, and enjoyed the delicious dinners that my mother cooked. Now, I still eat mostly fruit, vegetables, bake my own breads, and eat some meat and poultry. Moderation works for me. I think if you get too fanantical about food and use energy trying to control others, that will foul up your system. Just enjoying your food and making the best choices for you creates harmony and gratitude. Food is a great pleasure. We have such a variety, and where I live I can grow a lot of my own produce. It's very rewarding. I remember a discussion at Kripalu many years ago around Thanksgiving about how sometimes Yoga students were rude to their mothers who had cooked a nice meal that they refused to eat because they were now vegetarians. I was guilty of that as a vegetarian. I just read a book by Laura Ingalls Wilder and her daughter. When they were struggling pioneers she just had brown bread with bacon grease to eat every day. Boy did that wake me up! Their crops didn't survive: they lost their homestead and all that they put into it. When they eventually settled in the Ozarks, and built a productive farm, they never left. They really appreciated the orchard, chickens, cattle, etc...I like that pioneer spirit. > > Satpal Kaur > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 >Dear Amar Atma, Yes, the book is called " A Little House Sampler, " and it is by Rose Wilder Lane. I'll have to get her other books at the library. I enjoyed the speech you posted. My father loves history, so maybe I will get him a copy of " Discovery of Freedom " for his birthday. Satpal Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 She was the daughter of Laura Ingalls Wilder (author of Little House on the Prairie & many other books). Sahib-Amar Kaur >Dear Amar Atma,Yes, the book is called "A Little House Sampler," and it is by Rose Wilder Lane. I'll have to get her other books at the library. I enjoyed the speech you posted. My father loves history, so maybe I will get him a copy of "Discovery of Freedom" for his birthday.Satpal Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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