chestpain related to anxiety

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

I'm wondering if anyone has an idea for a good kriya to overcome chestpain. It

feels like a wandering twinge. Sometimes it's central, other times it's left or

right side of the chest. I believe it has to do with stress and anxiety. It's

not extremely painful nor does it limit my arm movements, but it's still

unpleasant. I really feel a corelation between the chest problems and my mental

state. Also my digestion is a bit problematic right now.

I'm a regular Kundalini Yoga practiser for 8 years but it's kinda difficult for

me to determine the right type of kriya for my mental/physical problem and I'd

be glad for help.

 

Thanks

 

LK

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam LK,

Do you chant? If not, this is a good time to start, and do so from

your heart. If you are already there, then try Kriya for Aerobic

Capacity (aka Lungs and Bloodstream). It will help "realign" the subtle

energies and muscles of the heart.

In '77, as a newbie to Kundalini yoga, a lot of old chest pains I

had been experiencing and that I had no clear understanding of, got

shoved into my consciousness. I really got why ( the Adi Mantra is

massive!) I had been having these pains for years (meanwhile the

doctors, at the time, had no clue). It took me a few more months to get

a fuller grasp of what to do, now that I knew the reason. I finally

ended up embracing Bio-energetic Gestalt therapy. Good stuff! In the

first session I dropped it all! Pain was gone. That chest pain was

repressed sadness, fear and anger. I hung around for another 12 months

processing a whole lot more. I highly recommend having a connection

with someone who can help you uncover and experience the emotions and

humanity often ignored while we go on our way being uber 'yogis'.

Yogiji would say one has to do the "emotional work". I hear that!.

As a matter of fact, the only difference between you/me and a saint is

how well we integrate our Yogic experiences and practice.

What time does it *feel* like to you?

 

With that I think I'll lay my head down.

 

Regards and Blessings,

Dharam S.

www.gongology.com

 

 

roses4god wrote:

 

Sat Nam,

I'm wondering if anyone has an idea for a good kriya to overcome chestpain. It feels like a wandering twinge. Sometimes it's central, other times it's left or right side of the chest. I believe it has to do with stress and anxiety. It's not extremely painful nor does it limit my arm movements, but it's still unpleasant. I really feel a corelation between the chest problems and my mental state. Also my digestion is a bit problematic right now. I'm a regular Kundalini Yoga practiser for 8 years but it's kinda difficult for me to determine the right type of kriya for my mental/physical problem and I'd be glad for help.

Thanks

LK

[Guest guest]

Dear LK,

 

Congratulations on pinpointing anxiety as the cause of your chest pain! The next step is dealing with your anxiety--which is certainly a human situation. When you feel the pain coming on, immediately inhale and begin serious long, deep breathing! Then my all-time favorite for curing anxiety, level by level is the mantra Gobinday, Mukunday, Udaray, Aparay, Hariang, Kariang, Nirnamay, Akamay. You can do that night and day until that particular anxiety is healed! It is such an amazing mantra! You can read more in the articles called "Jumping Out of Hell!" as www.SoulAnswer.com/jumping_out_of_hell.html .

 

Lots of Love,Siri-Gian

www.SoulAnswer.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

This is an excellent answer Dharam Singh. I was one of Yogji's early students.

In the early days he would say " turn emotion into devotion " that was the only

teaching for dealing with emotions. I had the chest pains too. I think yogji

evolved over the years too and began to understand the need to deal with

suppressed emotions. All teachings from the East were a little weak in this

area. I just read an interesting article in Elighten Next mgazine about Jun Po,

a modern day American Zen Master. He had the same problems. When he became the

Master of his lineage he changed the traditional Zen training to deal more with

emotions. Kundalini will just cramp you up if we don't unleash those old

emotional blockages........ In Peace Kirantana

 

 

In Kundalini-Yoga , d h a r a m <pranahsaurus wrote:

>

> Sat Nam LK,

> Do you chant? If not, this is a good time to start, and do so from

> your heart. If you are already there, then try Kriya for Aerobic

> Capacity (aka Lungs and Bloodstream). It will help " realign " the subtle

> energies and muscles of the heart.

> In '77, as a newbie to Kundalini yoga, a lot of old chest pains I had

> been experiencing and that I had no clear understanding of, got shoved

> into my consciousness. I really got why ( the Adi Mantra is massive!) I

> had been having these pains for years (meanwhile the doctors, at the

> time, had no clue). It took me a few more months to get a fuller grasp

> of what to do, now that I knew the reason. I finally ended up embracing

> Bio-energetic Gestalt therapy. Good stuff! In the first session I

> dropped it all! Pain was gone. That chest pain was repressed sadness,

> fear and anger. I hung around for another 12 months processing a whole

> lot more. I highly recommend having a connection with someone who can

> help you uncover and experience the emotions and humanity often ignored

> while we go on our way being uber 'yogis'.

> Yogiji would say one has to do the " emotional work " . I hear that!.

> As a matter of fact, the only difference between you/me and a saint is

> how well we integrate our Yogic experiences and practice.

> What time does it *feel* like to you?

>

> With that I think I'll lay my head down.

>

> Regards and Blessings,

> Dharam S.

> www.gongology.com

>

>

> roses4god wrote:

> > Sat Nam,

> >

> > I'm wondering if anyone has an idea for a good kriya to overcome chestpain.

It feels like a wandering twinge. Sometimes it's central, other times it's left

or right side of the chest. I believe it has to do with stress and anxiety. It's

not extremely painful nor does it limit my arm movements, but it's still

unpleasant. I really feel a corelation between the chest problems and my mental

state. Also my digestion is a bit problematic right now.

> > I'm a regular Kundalini Yoga practiser for 8 years but it's kinda difficult

for me to determine the right type of kriya for my mental/physical problem and

I'd be glad for help.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > LK

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sat nam ji,

 

From personal experience, I recommend Sodarshan chakra kriya

(

)

 

It is one of the powerhouse practices of KY, and is very physically

transformative to the lungs and torso. There's a lot out there to read about it

if you are unfamiliar with it. One word of advice when starting: You can

reduce the amt of pumps when starting out-- the full number is 48, done by

pumping the abdomen with the breath held in on each syllable of " wa-he guru " ,

repeating that phrase 16 times. Yow can cut it to 8 repetitions of the mantra,

and build from there (11-31 min). The drishti of the eyes at the tip of the nose

works on calming and controlling the mind as well- as things come up in the

meditation you can use that focus point to center and allow issues to surface

and heal.

 

Its in Dharma Singh's book Mediation as Medicine, which is an excellent book for

finding meditations for specific ailments.

 

Peace,

Kehar Kaur

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " roses4god " <nomadicantihero wrote:

>

> Sat Nam,

>

> I'm wondering if anyone has an idea for a good kriya to overcome chestpain. It

feels like a wandering twinge. Sometimes it's central, other times it's left or

right side of the chest. I believe it has to do with stress and anxiety. It's

not extremely painful nor does it limit my arm movements, but it's still

unpleasant. I really feel a corelation between the chest problems and my mental

state. Also my digestion is a bit problematic right now.

> I'm a regular Kundalini Yoga practiser for 8 years but it's kinda difficult

for me to determine the right type of kriya for my mental/physical problem and

I'd be glad for help.

>

> Thanks

>

> LK

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

You can read all about Sodarshan Kriya and the many ways of doing it on this

page: http://www.kundaliniyogainfocntr.com/page/Kundalini+Yoga+Mantra+R+-+S

 

There are several sites referred to with more information on that page and even

one person who has been doing it for 18 years.

 

Blessings,

 

Sat Avtar Kaur

http://www.kundaliniyogainfocntr.com/

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " jojoitalia " <jkoslowsky wrote:

>

> Sat nam ji,

>

> From personal experience, I recommend Sodarshan chakra kriya

(

)

>

> It is one of the powerhouse practices of KY, and is very physically

transformative to the lungs and torso. There's a lot out there to read about it

if you are unfamiliar with it. One word of advice when starting: You can

reduce the amt of pumps when starting out-- the full number is 48, done by

pumping the abdomen with the breath held in on each syllable of " wa-he guru " ,

repeating that phrase 16 times. Yow can cut it to 8 repetitions of the mantra,

and build from there (11-31 min). The drishti of the eyes at the tip of the nose

works on calming and controlling the mind as well- as things come up in the

meditation you can use that focus point to center and allow issues to surface

and heal.

>

> Its in Dharma Singh's book Mediation as Medicine, which is an excellent book

for finding meditations for specific ailments.

>

> Peace,

> Kehar Kaur

>

> Kundalini-Yoga , " roses4god " <nomadicantihero@> wrote:

> >

> > Sat Nam,

> >

> > I'm wondering if anyone has an idea for a good kriya to overcome chestpain.

It feels like a wandering twinge. Sometimes it's central, other times it's left

or right side of the chest. I believe it has to do with stress and anxiety. It's

not extremely painful nor does it limit my arm movements, but it's still

unpleasant. I really feel a corelation between the chest problems and my mental

state. Also my digestion is a bit problematic right now.

> > I'm a regular Kundalini Yoga practiser for 8 years but it's kinda difficult

for me to determine the right type of kriya for my mental/physical problem and

I'd be glad for help.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > LK

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam all,

 

Thanks a lot for all your suggestions. Coincidentially I actually practise

Sodarshan Chakra Kriya for more than 40 days now (31 mins daily). It's a very

good meditation. I feel that I overcame a lot of anger and self-consciousness.

Although I feel the benefits of this meditation and I know that I'm much more

balanced emotionally, this meditation seems not to have much of an effect on my

chest.

 

Your suggestions made me aware that I never really did a heart chakra meditation

for a longer time. Occasionally I chant or meditate such meditations and I do

kriyas for the heart but not for 40 days or longer. Instead I focused more on

the navel point and 6th and 7th Chakras. I think it might be a good idea to do

heart centre meditation where I make motions with the arms. There's one I

occasionally practise with the arms overhead and certain motions to the

Protection Mantra (Aad Guree Namee, Jugaad Guree Namee....).

 

I think I should try it for 40 days, although I kinda feel afraid giving up

Sodarshan Chakra Kriya. I'm just not sure if I'll be able to keep the

self-confidence which comes by working on the navel and I won't have the time to

do both for 31 mins.

 

Probably I should just focus on another part of my system, after working with

Sodarshan Chakra Kriya and navel point for quite a while. There are more

construction sites to be fixed...

 

Thanks all for your contribution.

[Guest guest]

One idea you will have to let go of is the

one that says you need to "fixed".

Check it out. The blessings are all around. Find release.

 

What is your birthday (for numerological reasons)?

 

http://www.sahej.com/Tantric_Numerology.html

 

You can even do your calculation at

http://www.3ho.org/clients/3HO/numerology.nsf/WebEntry?OpenForm

 

 

roses4god wrote:

 

Sat Nam all,

Thanks a lot for all your suggestions. Coincidentially I actually practise Sodarshan Chakra Kriya for more than 40 days now (31 mins daily). It's a very good meditation. I feel that I overcame a lot of anger and self-consciousness. Although I feel the benefits of this meditation and I know that I'm much more balanced emotionally, this meditation seems not to have much of an effect on my chest. Your suggestions made me aware that I never really did a heart chakra meditation for a longer time. Occasionally I chant or meditate such meditations and I do kriyas for the heart but not for 40 days or longer. Instead I focused more on the navel point and 6th and 7th Chakras. I think it might be a good idea to do heart centre meditation where I make motions with the arms. There's one I occasionally practise with the arms overhead and certain motions to the Protection Mantra (Aad Guree Namee, Jugaad Guree Namee....). I think I should try it for 40 days, although I kinda feel afraid giving up Sodarshan Chakra Kriya. I'm just not sure if I'll be able to keep the self-confidence which comes by working on the navel and I won't have the time to do both for 31 mins. Probably I should just focus on another part of my system, after working with Sodarshan Chakra Kriya and navel point for quite a while. There are more construction sites to be fixed...

Thanks all for your contribution.

[Guest guest]

Interesting to me that emotional work and So Darshan Chakra Kriya have come up together in this thread. For years, my practice has been to "scan the system" during my practice of So Darshan, looking for emotional residue (called "ama" in Ayurveda) that might have come up in the previous 24 hours or so. Western psychology says that emotions are stored in the body, like in the case of chest pain in this discussion. Emotions are also stored in our mind in the form of the stories we tell ourselves. The "trick" to releasing this ama, in my experience, is to fully feel the emotion while simultaneously maintaining the mantra and meditation form. The greater I can authentically feel the emotion, while doing the practice, the more effectively it is released into the ethers. Or, more accurately, the energy is converted into its higher form, the spiritual essence from which it came (thus emotion is converted into devotion, as YogiJi taught).

 

This is a very simple, though difficulty practice. The effects are marvelous, though. When physical and mental ama are released, the yogic channels open and energy pours through, healing everything in its path. The difficult part is that the attention tends to collect in areas of physical and mental pain, and especially in the stories we use to justify the existence of this pain. Our egoic self does not want to experience the actual emotional feeling, but prefers to distract into mental chatter about the feeling. If we refuse to actually feel the feeling, then it remains in storage for the future. Thus emotions settle more deeply into subconscious and physical manifestations.

 

When you no longer shy away from uncomfortable physical or mental feelings, and truly explore them with curiosity and a spiritual context, then the whole trip becomes exciting. Bring it on! Show me where the internal pain is so I can experience it and release the suffering. Yee Haa!

 

Though So Darshan is a great place to do this work, it can be done in any spiritual practice, I believe. And the best place to do it is White Tantric. So if some pain shows up during Tantric, it can be a great blessing in timing, and great healing can take place.

 

-Dr. Sham Rang

[Guest guest]

You didn't say, but have you talked to a medical doctor about your chest pain?

Being young and female makes a medical problem a low probability, but not

impossible. I have known women who had angina or even heart attacks in their

thirties. Really, take it seriously.

[Guest guest]

Something else just occured to me as well. Thirty years ago, I was a runner on

the beach by my college town, and I used to get wandering chest pain sometimes.

It was, oddly enough, of an intestinal nature due to lactose intolerance and

allergy. So, while you might also be anxious(not uncommon these days), your pain

could easily be caused by unexpected things.

 

However, you can't go wrong by doing heart meditations while you figure this

out!

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

This thread has been very interesting to me as I was experiencing some kind of

undefined chest pain in the month of August. It was a transitional time, I was

going through some changes--waiting to see if I would be accepted into a

post-bac program, looking to a change in career, and even considering a move. I

couldn't understand this chest pain--it felt different from anything I'd ever

had. So I went to the doctor and had some tests done. They found nothing wrong

(and the doctors basically stopped there). I've also been doing Sodarshan kriya

for a couple of months and I really liked what Dr. Sham Rang says about it.

Interestingly, once I determined that I wasn't going to move, found out I was

accepted into the school program and began taking classes and starting my new

routine, the chest pain went away. Most of the other stuff has stayed the same,

no big changes in diet except I'm eating more salads and whole grains. Still

doing yoga and mediation regularly. Everything just adjusted I guess, and it

sure seems like it was anxiety-related.

 

Another meditation that helped me through a time of fear when I was first

unemployed is the Tratakum meditation. The chance to ask YB questions really

helped. And gazing at that image also.

 

There is so much to learn and I'm so grateful for this technology!

 

Ananda Kaur

Plymouth MA