question

[Guest guest]

Tara i share your thoughts, we have an idea that those chakra's which are open

are pure.But are they?

We are manifold beings with transmutation needed before purity is established.

If God were to wait for us to be perfect before bestowing grace he would wait

for ever.

I believe we have to still pursue cleaning up our Karma and our momentums or

habits which we have imprinted onto the Chakra's even tho they are

open............hence a daily practise.

Those who take heaven by Force,meaning forcing open the chakra's by drugs or

whatever means,when things are not ready have all kinds of problems,even as

Chris says suicide etc.

There are so many ways described to seek,enlightenement that the choices

overwhelm,one idea is to open the Heart first , then that focus can purify the

other Chakra's.

The feelings you have are indicative of further work needed on those issues,and

i think we are all the same in this regard,we think we are done with some

issue...............and then there it is again.

We can surely only conquer by Love and self forgiveness,i think this is a

process and we get there bit by bit.

I guess patience whilst on the Path is a real test for most of us too,and it s

frustrating to think oh! there it is again.

 

There is the Mystery of Surrender too and perhaps this is the toughest

Initiation we can pass,as an aspect of the Divine Mother.

Just some thought's................................................R.

..................................

 

-

tara_tuttare

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:42 AM

question

 

 

This is a question for anyone.

 

In my linear thinking I believed when the kundalini rises it goes through

the chakras sequentially. I feel the energy up to my heart, and it has been

opening for awhile now. But there still is some blockages associated with

my second chakra (unresloved sexual/birth trauma). If indeed the kundalini

is opening my heart, why didn't She resolve the lower issues first? Perhaps

the two chakras are connected and they are working together to release these

old patterns. When I put my attention there this seems right. It seems like

there are layers that get peeled back over and over until one is finally able

to move through to the next layer, again and again. Comments?

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Richard! Are you sitting naked in the snow yet? Soon I hope!

Regarding the chakras I believe they start out pure and then become sullied

through the practice of life but at the core they remain pure - just my take -

chrism

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you Richard. It is true. Are we ever really 'done'? Why would we need

to be here then? I know I am 'perfect' now in this moment, and whatever is to

be

cleansed I offer my love and blessings to. It is truly the past that has gotten

me to this moment in time, no? The heart first. Yes, this seems right, and

Love

will open the doors. I think I have some insights that came to me today about

my fifth and second chakras relating to past-life memories. I would love to

share

them on the list, maybe soon. Then I ask is this even important?

 

I tend to be somewhat inconsistent, even lazy when it comes to a daily practice.

If I don't think of it as a " discipline " and instead more of a focus I do

better. It is

also about Grace, is it not? Balance is probably the key. I suppose I have to

stop

thinking that 'it' is someplace else. This/That, Here/There, Now/Then -- This

is

all just black and white thinking that keeps me trapped in dualism.

 

Are we there yet?

 

Your wisdom and kindness are appreciated.

Tara

[Guest guest]

No not melting snow yet,but it could get that way,things are changing,little by

little.

R.............

-

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:01 PM

Re: question

 

 

Hello Richard! Are you sitting naked in the snow yet? Soon I hope!

Regarding the chakras I believe they start out pure and then become sullied

through the practice of life but at the core they remain pure - just my take -

chrism

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Good, Stay balanced and mindful and fearless. Keep practicing - blessings -

chrism

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi and all,

 

I just wanted to ask one more question about New Age

beliefs (as I've always been drawn to new age

mythology),

Are we coming to the end of a time cycle ? 2012 ?

 

What do you think about that Chrism?

 

Again, all my life I've had the " feeling " that these

were humanities last days.

I had repetative dreams that the world was ending as a

child and in 1999 I had a vision where I was told the

end of the world was coming, leading to rebirth.

 

But then I was also lead to believe that me and my

husband were Adam and Eve and we were here to do a

sexual kundalini based magick that would somehow

return the earth to it's Edenic state by opening a

gateway. (I know it sounds crazy now but at the time

it was really intense).

 

Do these kinds of visions come from the divine or the

Ego?

Perhaps the astral?

Are they tests of Ego?

 

I always took them literally when perhaps they meant

something else?

But when strange things start going on that seem to

confirm the bizarre messages you recieve, how are you

to know fact from fiction?

 

This is why now-a-days I don't even put attachment on

to my " divine messages " , I just enjoy them and try to

live in the moment of now.

 

I would like to hear what others think about these

things,

Much love and gratitude

Elektra x x x

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

>

> But then I was also lead to believe that me and my

> husband were Adam and Eve and we were here to do a

> sexual kundalini based magick that would somehow

> return the earth to it's Edenic state by opening a

> gateway. (I know it sounds crazy now but at the time

> it was really intense).

>

> Do these kinds of visions come from the divine or the

> Ego?

> Perhaps the astral?

> Are they tests of Ego?

 

 

These are messages to you from you. We must remember the High Self.

The you that is testing and controlling the level and dynamic of

your experience here on the physical. The high self is divine and so

therefore I would submit that at least those were from a divine

source. Perhaps not to be taken literally though perhaps to plant

the seeds that you are now bringing into being. The Garden of Eden

is with in. -

[Guest guest]

I believe you are right,

if I hadn't had that vision about kundalini and then had a mysterious book

turn up with some real bizarre magic from the gnostics at that moment, and felt

it was speaking right to me, I wouldn't have known what Kundalini even was.

It was the begining of my awakening, and really adam and eve, me and my

husband, divine masculine and divine feminine, are all one and the same as is

everyone.

outside and inside.

 

Life is abstract in it's signs.

 

I'm learning to let go more and more, emptying myself.

 

Today I had another great release, some deep inner child baby memories came

out, anger and violence, mother , father issues.

 

I feel calm like an ocean....

 

Thankyou all, love you, Elektra x x x

 

chrism <> wrote:

>

> But then I was also lead to believe that me and my

> husband were Adam and Eve and we were here to do a

> sexual kundalini based magick that would somehow

> return the earth to it's Edenic state by opening a

> gateway. (I know it sounds crazy now but at the time

> it was really intense).

>

> Do these kinds of visions come from the divine or the

> Ego?

> Perhaps the astral?

> Are they tests of Ego?

 

 

These are messages to you from you. We must remember the High Self.

The you that is testing and controlling the level and dynamic of

your experience here on the physical. The high self is divine and so

therefore I would submit that at least those were from a divine

source. Perhaps not to be taken literally though perhaps to plant

the seeds that you are now bringing into being. The Garden of Eden

is with in. -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Elektra,

 

your middle name is " awakening " . You personify the term. It is always

a delight to read your posts and to travel with you.

 

BlessU

Sam

 

, Elektra Fire

<elektra.fire wrote:

>

> I believe you are right,

> if I hadn't had that vision about kundalini and then had a

mysterious book turn up with some real bizarre magic from the gnostics

at that moment, and felt it was speaking right to me, I wouldn't have

known what Kundalini even was.

> It was the begining of my awakening, and really adam and eve, me

and my husband, divine masculine and divine feminine, are all one and

the same as is everyone.

> outside and inside.

>

> Life is abstract in it's signs.

>

> I'm learning to let go more and more, emptying myself.

>

> Today I had another great release, some deep inner child baby

memories came out, anger and violence, mother , father issues.

>

> I feel calm like an ocean....

>

> Thankyou all, love you, Elektra x x x

>

> chrism <> wrote:

> >

> > But then I was also lead to believe that me and my

> > husband were Adam and Eve and we were here to do a

> > sexual kundalini based magick that would somehow

> > return the earth to it's Edenic state by opening a

> > gateway. (I know it sounds crazy now but at the time

> > it was really intense).

> >

> > Do these kinds of visions come from the divine or the

> > Ego?

> > Perhaps the astral?

> > Are they tests of Ego?

>

>

> These are messages to you from you. We must remember the High Self.

> The you that is testing and controlling the level and dynamic of

> your experience here on the physical. The high self is divine and so

> therefore I would submit that at least those were from a divine

> source. Perhaps not to be taken literally though perhaps to plant

> the seeds that you are now bringing into being. The Garden of Eden

> is with in. -

 

[Guest guest]

Greetings Elektra, Everyone,

 

> Are we coming to the end of a time cycle ? 2012 ?

 

In some circles, " the event " that you mentioned above has already

happened?

 

I like your idea of living in the moment as well as using discernment

for what is right and true for you =)

 

Love and Light,

StarStuffs

[Guest guest]

Wait for the experts to answer, but this sounds like the golden

helmet phenomena to me. I sometimes feel as though I have on a

helmet or feel something protruding from my third eye.

 

Sarita

 

, " Katherine "

<katsam19 wrote:

>

> I was just wondering if a feeling of someone holding my head from

the

> frontal lobe toward the back of my head or something like the band

of a

> hat or something but warm is K related. If I am thinking about K or

> giving thanks or praying to God I have that feeling and it is

> accompanied with a warm feeling. Any input would be great!

>

> Love,

> Katherine

>

[Guest guest]

The 3rd eye pressure. At least that's what I call it. I have them often, and

when it comes, I close my eyes and look up towards it. I encourage the tingling

pressure to get stronger, feeling as if I am growing a large horn out of my

forehead lol.

I try to enjoy the sensation for as long as I can and remind myself to love

every aspect of the K. Even as I speak about this, I am getting the sensation

of tiny ants crawling under my skin around my forehead and head. Fun!

blessings

Lisa

 

---- Sarita <sarita1969 wrote:

> Wait for the experts to answer, but this sounds like the golden

> helmet phenomena to me. I sometimes feel as though I have on a

> helmet or feel something protruding from my third eye.

>

> Sarita

>

> , " Katherine "

> <katsam19 wrote:

> >

> > I was just wondering if a feeling of someone holding my head from

> the

> > frontal lobe toward the back of my head or something like the band

> of a

> > hat or something but warm is K related. If I am thinking about K or

> > giving thanks or praying to God I have that feeling and it is

> > accompanied with a warm feeling. Any input would be great!

> >

> > Love,

> > Katherine

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

While we are waiting for the expert to respond I would suggest that

it is an expression of the Golden Helmet. - blessings from a fellow

traveler - chrism

 

 

 

 

, " Sarita "

<sarita1969 wrote:

>

> Wait for the experts to answer, but this sounds like the golden

> helmet phenomena to me. I sometimes feel as though I have on a

> helmet or feel something protruding from my third eye.

>

> Sarita

>

> , " Katherine "

> <katsam19@> wrote:

> >

> > I was just wondering if a feeling of someone holding my head

from

> the

> > frontal lobe toward the back of my head or something like the

band

> of a

> > hat or something but warm is K related. If I am thinking about K

or

> > giving thanks or praying to God I have that feeling and it is

> > accompanied with a warm feeling. Any input would be great!

> >

> > Love,

> > Katherine

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sarita, I do appreciate the information. I will have to look up the

information on the Golden Helmet to learn more about it! I too have that same

feeling about the third eye. I hope you have a wonderful night.

 

Love,

Katherine

 

 

 

Sarita <sarita1969

 

Monday, May 14, 2007 10:47:11 PM

Re: Question

 

Wait for the experts to answer, but this sounds like the golden

helmet phenomena to me. I sometimes feel as though I have on a

helmet or feel something protruding from my third eye.

 

Sarita

 

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " Katherine "

<katsam19@.. .> wrote:

>

> I was just wondering if a feeling of someone holding my head from

the

> frontal lobe toward the back of my head or something like the band

of a

> hat or something but warm is K related. If I am thinking about K or

> giving thanks or praying to God I have that feeling and it is

> accompanied with a warm feeling. Any input would be great!

>

> Love,

> Katherine

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Lisa wrote:

> The 3rd eye pressure. At least that's what I call it. I have them

often, and when it comes, I close my eyes and look up towards it. I

encourage the tingling pressure to get stronger, feeling as if I am

growing a large horn out of my forehead lol.

> I try to enjoy the sensation for as long as I can and remind myself to

love every aspect of the K. Even as I speak about this, I am getting the

sensation of tiny ants crawling under my skin around my forehead and

head. Fun!

 

 

Hi Lisa,

 

I get the same regularly. It feels like a large boil sometimes coming

out of my forehead. Usually if I do this I end up having vivid,

psychic-type or lucid dreams; although sometimes these illusions can

manifest as nightmares or hallucinations, which are not pleasant.

 

I have been told by a Chinese Qigong (pronounced Chi Gung) teacher that

you should always bring your energy back down from the head to the Dan

Tien (navel area) afterwards, so that the mind is not overstimulated,

especially at night. I don't know the validity of this, but it seems to

help, for me at least.

 

As for the ants, they seem to have made a nest in the sole of my left

foot and my mid-back for the last week or two. I like the fact that I

have these sensations (although I don't want to become too attached to

them either), but it can be a little maddening sometimes.

 

Tom...

[Guest guest]

I think that is an AWESOME idea!

 

Sarita

 

, " novalees "

<Novalees wrote:

>

> How does the idea of a Group Store sound? With products made by

> members? We could set it up on our site that Glen is working on. Can

> it be done, Glen? What think ye, all??? Love, dhyana

>

[Guest guest]

What is really interesting is the timing of your post. I've been making a lot of

jewelry over the weekend, and was posting them in my etsy store, and wondering

where else I could show them.

 

Blessings and Love,

Leslie

 

Sarita <sarita1969 wrote:

I think that is an AWESOME idea!

 

Sarita

 

, " novalees "

<Novalees wrote:

>

> How does the idea of a Group Store sound? With products made by

> members? We could set it up on our site that Glen is working on. Can

> it be done, Glen? What think ye, all??? Love, dhyana

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.

 

 

[Guest guest]

That's great Leslie! We could just post pictures and info in the store

with our email as a contact. How does that sound? Then no extra work

for Glen, except that. Love, dhyana

 

, Leslie Smith

<i_ama_lighthouse wrote:

>

> What is really interesting is the timing of your post. I've been

making a lot of jewelry over the weekend, and was posting them in my

etsy store, and wondering where else I could show them.

>

> Blessings and Love,

> Leslie

>

> Sarita <sarita1969 wrote:

> I think that is an AWESOME idea!

>

> Sarita

>

> , " novalees "

> <Novalees@> wrote:

> >

> > How does the idea of a Group Store sound? With products made by

> > members? We could set it up on our site that Glen is working on. Can

> > it be done, Glen? What think ye, all??? Love, dhyana

> >

 

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like a grand idea. I know some of us have written books, made CD's,

etc... I personally don't make anything, but I will surely look into a hobby.

Overall, it is a plan I can see working !

 

---- novalees <Novalees wrote:

> How does the idea of a Group Store sound? With products made by

> members? We could set it up on our site that Glen is working on. Can

> it be done, Glen? What think ye, all??? Love, dhyana

>

[Guest guest]

There are so many gifted people here. I would just love to see a place

where our creations can be shared. Love, dhyana

 

 

, <pleiades69

wrote:

>

> Sounds like a grand idea. I know some of us have written books, made

CD's, etc... I personally don't make anything, but I will surely look

into a hobby. Overall, it is a plan I can see working !

>

> ---- novalees <Novalees wrote:

> > How does the idea of a Group Store sound? With products made by

> > members? We could set it up on our site that Glen is working on. Can

> > it be done, Glen? What think ye, all??? Love, dhyana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree that would be great. A physical way of sharing energy.

 

Sherri

 

--

The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein

 

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" Sarita " <sarita1969

I think that is an AWESOME idea!

 

Sarita

 

, " novalees "

<Novalees wrote:

>

> How does the idea of a Group Store sound? With products made by

> members? We could set it up on our site that Glen is working on. Can

> it be done, Glen? What think ye, all??? Love, dhyana

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I will set this up shortly. Thanks everyone for your great suggestions.

love to all, glen o.

 

 

, " novalees "

<Novalees wrote:

>

>

> There are so many gifted people here. I would just love to see a place

> where our creations can be shared. Love, dhyana

>

>

> , <pleiades69@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Sounds like a grand idea. I know some of us have written books, made

> CD's, etc... I personally don't make anything, but I will surely look

> into a hobby. Overall, it is a plan I can see working !

> >

> > ---- novalees <Novalees@> wrote:

> > > How does the idea of a Group Store sound? With products made by

> > > members? We could set it up on our site that Glen is working on. Can

> > > it be done, Glen? What think ye, all??? Love, dhyana

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I suppose it depends on what your are looking for... just jump in an try a few

and see what feels right for you.

 

Chris Tinney <chris wrote: How does one decide

which is the best stykle of Yoga for them to start

doing.

It seems like there are so many?

Thanks

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Personally, I experimented with many different styles over a 3 year period

before I finally realized that only Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga could meet my personal

needs. Every time I thought it was too much and pulled back, my need drove me

back to it! I may spend the rest of my mastering just the primary series (I am

61.) but, for me, the journey is the destination!

 

Since I can only do Ashtanga every other day (at the current time), I do other

styles of yoga (such as Yin Yoga) on the other days.

 

Mary

 

 

 

Chris Tinney <chris wrote:

How does one decide which is the best stykle of Yoga for them to start

doing.

It seems like there are so many?

Thanks

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Chris,

 

I reckon that the only way you can decide is by trying it out. You can

listen to other people, find out what they like but the only way you will

know if it's good for you is by doing it & finding out how it feels. This

usually depends to some extent on what you are doing with the rest of your

life. Some places have yoga centres which teach a variety of styles so you

can experiment. The important thing is to find an approach which you enjoy &

which will be something to look forward to. You can always change.

 

Happy hunting

 

Vik

 

 

On 10/28/07 2:03 PM, " Chris Tinney " <chris wrote:

 

>

>

>

>

> How does one decide which is the best stykle of Yoga for them to start

> doing.

> It seems like there are so many?

> Thanks

> Chris

>

>

>