Your Kundalini Yoga routine

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

I try to figure out the most effective way to practise Kundalini Yoga. For years

I practised a different kriya daily. One day I practised exercises for the

liver, the other day for the heart and so on. I never planned ahead but decided

every day what type of set to do in accordance to my physical and mental state

at that day. For the meditation I sticked to the same for 40 days or longer.

 

Now I switched my routine slightly. I practise every yoga set for 2 days instead

of just one.

 

Now I'm wondering what type of routine you guys developed. I'd be glad to hear

about your experiences.

 

Thanks

 

LK

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

I developed yoga routines over the years as Yogi Bhajan gave us more and

more things to do each morning and evening. I call it Rise and Shine

Yoga Routines and the part done in bed " Bed Yoga " . The most important

act I do upon waking is the morning blessing. Amazing experiences have

sprung from this, which I describe in my memoirs. You may find all these

techniques and descriptions on my website at

http://www.yogagems.com/dailyyoga.html where Rise and Shine Yoga, the

evening routines and hydrotherapy are available as free downloads.

Variations of the

morning blessing are at

http://www.yogagems.com/beachannel/spiritualblessings.html

 

For starters, here is my write-up of the basic daily routines, which

Yogiji said will make you healthy wealthy and wise:

 

While you are asleep you are under the care of three energies: magnetic,

electric and pranic (life force). These energies should be adjusted to

the wake stage before you get up.

 

1. After first receiving a signal to get up after enjoying a deep sleep,

lay on your back, greet your Creator and go through the Morning

Blessing, blessing each divine function of your being.

2. Keeping the eyes closed, stretch your hands above your head to

channel the magnetic energy. Then cup your hands and draw them down

toward your eyes. Open your eyes to gaze into your cupped hands. With

light coming through the cracks between your fingers, slowly raise the

hands up 12 to 20 inches as you read the lines in your palms. This

process will protect the optic nerve from any undue pressure from

morning’s first light. Keeping your focus, slowly bring the hands back

over the eyes. Repeat this process until the light no longer bothers them.

3. Gently rub the eyes outwardly to the corners of your brows, stroking

your face downwards from the cheeks past the chin. Men stroke down to

the tip their beard.

4. Women can relieve tension that naturally accumulates in the ovaries

by briskly pounding the ovaries with the palms of their hands for a

minute or two.

5. Women can nurture themselves to be very healthy and energetic by

massaging their breasts. This is the only point where the nerve point of

the life nerve, of the ida and pingala, passes very near. Men achieve

this effect by kicking the buttocks in shoulder stand.

6. Roll your hands and feet at the wrists and ankles for three and a

half minutes. Stretch your toes, one by one, back and forth for one and

half minutes.

7. Do a “feel good” Cat Stretch on each side of your body 4 to 5 times

on each side. This diagonal stretch breaks the magnetic field of sleep

and insures that you will never have hip or lower back problems.

8. Do Stretch Pose—the feet and head raised off the bed 6 inches, arms

along your side stretching toward the toes, gazing at your toes to

complete the circuit of energy. Repeat 3 times and then rise up into

this position for 30 to 60 seconds with Breath of Fire. Inhale deeply

and hold, tightening every muscle in your body. Stretch pose stimulates

the navel before you put yourself into gear for the day, like warming up

your car first.

9. Bring your knees to your chest and hold them with Long Deep Breathing

or Breath of Fire. This pose releases pressure from excess air (apana)

in the intestinal tract.

10. Now, laying flat on your back, arms along side, do 108 body bounces:

Supported by the heels and shoulders lift and drop the buttocks at a

fast pace inhaling up, exhaling down with a powerful breath, like Breath

of Fire. It gives great vitality.

11. Sit up in bed with your hands on your knees and grind your abdomen

and also your solar plexus around in circles 3-4 times in each direction

to balance air and food. This motion also bores your energy into the

earth’s electromagnetic field, creating receptivity to the earth

element, which serves to ground you.

12. Straighten your arms up at sixty-degree angles from the bed with the

fingertips on the pads of the hands and thumbs pointing up. Do Breath of

Fire for 1 minute. Inhale deeply and bring your thumb tips together over

your head following a natural arc of energy. When the thumb tips connect

with ease it indicates that your electro magnetic field has been reset.

13. Do Sat Kriya 5 to 8 times: The arms are stretched up straight over

your head hugging your ears, palms together. Powerfully pull in on the

navel as you chant “Sat” (rhymes with “cut”) and release as you chant

“Nam” (rhymes with “Tom”). This stimulates the internal organs and

chakras to start functioning. Just as you would never run a cold

car—warm yourself up!

 

YOGI WASHROOM ROUTINE

1. Massage your feet a bit and then walk barefoot to the washroom,

allowing the positive charge of electricity to go out of the body, out

the feet. Open and close the water tap several times; the excess

electrical charge is taken away from your body by metal that has a

connection with the earth.

2. Sit on the toilet in Crow Pose, with the feet on the seat. This is

the natural position for elimination. Clear your urine, stopping the

flow up to six times. Do not let it go in one stream. This will help you

avoid incontinence in your later years. The way Yogiji said it, “Your

body asks for mercy, kindness and care. Drink water during the day.

Urinate properly. You haven’t developed those muscles. The yogis

developed locks, like Mul Bhand to give them this control.”

3. Brush your teeth with powdered Potassium Alum and salt in a 3:1

ratio. Then clean the tongue to gag 3 times so mucous does not go into

the stomach. This is a must. Gag every morning after brushing the teeth.

4. Splash cold water directly into your eyes. Do this often, throughout

the day. Along with gagging it will help prevent cataracts.

5. Deeply comb your scalp forwards and back, forwards and backwards 108

times, with the last motion being forwards. If one has long hair, it can

be tied up on top of the head in a smooth knot over the solar center or

soft spot. On men this is near the brow, on women the spot is located

near the back of the top of the head. The “rishi knot” acts as an

antenna for sun energy, channeling it down the spine to help awaken the

Kundalini.

6. Drink a glass of cold water or cold, plain Yogi Tea. It is very

healthy. It goes through the system and takes all the dirty ions. You

will feel clean inside.

7. Next, take a cold shower—Cold Water Therapy!

 

Loving Blessings

SS. Guru Prem Kaur Khalsa

www.yogagems.com

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

Happy to share.

 

I usually have one thing I like to do for 1000 days (not that I've reached 1000

days yet, but it's nice to have one thing).

 

It always changing, but for me right now it's:

 

Comb hair. Brush teeth. Cold Shower.

Read from JapJi - 1000 Days (minimum mul mantra 11 times).

Bowing Jap Shahib - 3-5 mins.

Stretch 7-30 mins.

Kriya for 11-40 days usually.

If no Kriya, then Basic Energizer/Morning Series with Sat Kriya.

Rest.

Meditation (from GuruDevSingh) for 40+90 days. (40 days at 11min, then 90 days

at 31-33mins)

Affirmations - 1-3 mins

Chant to Guru Ram Das - 1-3 mins.

Ice cream - 1-3 scoops.

 

Fateh

[Guest guest]

Below is what KRI says, my current strategy for meditation and yoga and what I

recall Yogi Bhajan saying.

 

This is from the KRI Teacher Training 1 manual:

It take 40 days to change a habit.

It takes 90 days to confirm the habit.

In 120 days, the new habit is yours.

In 1,000 days, you have mastered the new habit.

 

For myself I am attempting to make 120 days the new minimum; 1000 days the mid

point and attempting to know/feel/experience the effects of the meditation on

mySelf and continue as long as its affects are effective for my life. I relate

well to this KRI " sutra " and look at it if I am feeling a little uninspired at

93 days or 759 days or

 

In the early days, I recall doing Sa-Ta-Na-Ma for about 5 years…I likely

" should " have kept going but I was doing what every meditation was popular for

the time period.

 

I recently read the story behind the story of 40 days as related by Yogi Bhajan

but I didn't find the exact quote. It something about one cycle of the moon

plus a few days extra. He didn't go into the 90 or 120 or 1,000 days.

 

As far as yoga, I do what set is taught in sadhana or my favorites if sadhana is

on my own. What I have found with my yoga practice is that I get in routines

that are ruts because of not likely how the manual reads or not enough time, or

wanted to get really good at the posture etc. so...I go to a yoga class once per

week, where someone else picks the set and watches the clock. At this point in

my practice, i am not relating to the yoga sets the same as meditation with the

40-90-120 days, that could change and I am not promoting it, simple sharing what

I actual do.

 

Sat Ganesha Singh

" participate, share, contribute "

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " roses4god " <nomadicantihero wrote:

>

> Sat Nam,

>

> I try to figure out the most effective way to practise Kundalini Yoga. For

years I practised a different kriya daily. One day I practised exercises for the

liver, the other day for the heart and so on. I never planned ahead but decided

every day what type of set to do in accordance to my physical and mental state

at that day. For the meditation I sticked to the same for 40 days or longer.

>

> Now I switched my routine slightly. I practise every yoga set for 2 days

instead of just one.

>

> Now I'm wondering what type of routine you guys developed. I'd be glad to hear

about your experiences.

>

> Thanks

>

> LK

>

[Guest guest]

Most interested in which ice cream...we have some wonderful Coconut Bliss (my

favorite is mint chocolate) in the Northwest...what's scooping in NYC?

 

Appreciation,

Sat Ganesha

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " FilipFilip " <filipfilip wrote:

>

> Sat Nam,

>

> Happy to share.

>

> I usually have one thing I like to do for 1000 days (not that I've reached

1000 days yet, but it's nice to have one thing).

>

> It always changing, but for me right now it's:

>

> Comb hair. Brush teeth. Cold Shower.

> Read from JapJi - 1000 Days (minimum mul mantra 11 times).

> Bowing Jap Shahib - 3-5 mins.

> Stretch 7-30 mins.

> Kriya for 11-40 days usually.

> If no Kriya, then Basic Energizer/Morning Series with Sat Kriya.

> Rest.

> Meditation (from GuruDevSingh) for 40+90 days. (40 days at 11min, then 90 days

at 31-33mins)

> Affirmations - 1-3 mins

> Chant to Guru Ram Das - 1-3 mins.

> Ice cream - 1-3 scoops.

>

> Fateh

>

[Guest guest]

I think to really follow all guidelines Yogi Bhajan has given us is very tough

and feasible mainly for the most dedicated yogis.

 

My main point of criticism is that I feel pretty much alone in my journey to

higher consciousness. Yogi Bhajan gave us a lot of Kriyas, Mediations,

informations, advices...it's overwhelming.

 

But it's on every individual to select the right meditation or kriya without

help from someone else. There are teachers and classes, but they don't really

serve to address questions of the individual student regarding his practise and

for getting advice. There's no way to figure out what type of meditation is the

best for the individual at that moment. It's difficult, especially for the

beginner to really understand on what part of the body/mind/spirit to work on.

So lots of people wander around in darkness and don't make any progress

whatsoever.

 

After finding a good teacher, the student might want to really get expert

advice, but He has to book counseling, not for free of course.

 

I like Kundalini Yoga and feel sympathie for the 3HO community, but I personally

don't consider the system helpful. I don't want to sound ungrateful or negative.

The technique and teachings of Yogi Bhajans are fantastic.

[Guest guest]

Dear KY and roses4god,

Roses does make some good points here. For example, how many qualified teachers

would of been able to give the OCD routine? I would imagine most teachers would

have little to no experience of it, and would probably suggest standard KY

practices. I did speak with a few teachers on the phone, yet they were brusque,

I mentioned the book I had been learning from 'Kundalini Yoga Meditation -

techniques specific for psychatric disorders, couples therapy & personal

growth'. They huffed, 'oh you need a teacher, classes different to Sadhana,

personal tuition' yet they didn't really seem to know what I was doing.

So I wrote to David Shannahoff Khalsa, author of the book, and he wanted $150

dollars an hour, and he would charge by the minuite. In my lifetime I have

spent thousands and thousands on spiritual matters and I have had enough of it.

Also I don't have money like that. So I asked him if there were student

teachers who were interested in this work and may be cheaper, his answer was try

where you are in London there must be teachers there. Yes David, but not

understanding this.

 

So that is why I was asking about key texts or books. Here in London there

doesn't seem to be in KY what you have in U.S. and beyond. There is no summer

solstice festivals, not even an online bookstore. If I want books I have to get

from Ancient Healing Ways which are expensive and THEN pay tax at over 20%. I

was even thinking of starting a little bookstore here, an online one. There is

teacher training, it is expensive, and something puts me off.

 

In all seriousness if we were to lose the internet it would be good for me to

have these techniques. Why? If someone came with some odd complaint we could

maybe find a kriya for them, I could teach tune in and we are off. That to me

is the essence of teaching.

 

So you make some good points, we are intelligent people and as roses says, we

can struggle with it, what about people who can't explore this realm well?

 

IMHO none of us are out of the equation of 2012 electro-magnetic shift. All

systems will go and the ones most solid will go first. A lot of the KY

structures will have to shift also. What you thought you wern't part of the

equation!? This is such a HUGE shift, because basically none of man's old ways

of doing are adequate.

 

IMHO Yogi Bhajan also said even doing a kriya ONCE could do it for you. It is

up to us how long we drag this out, you could do 1000 days or 1000 years even.

But unless you can do just that one kriya in a surrendered, let go, focused and

present manner, it will never help and will never heal. You have to be free

first. That is why I always am just in silence for a few minuites first and

last as that is the end and the goal. It is good to finish before you start.

 

I will get the survival manual, that is good stuff. I will get the Yogi Bhajan

book on the mind. I will get some cook books of his. I will look around. If

you know of good things in London please let me know?

 

I feel you made some good points Roses, none of this is personal anymore, it is

all impersonal. We are a cosmic experiment, let us see what happens.

 

Sukhnivas

[Guest guest]

---- Original Message ----

" beautiful22 " <22taro

<Kundalini-Yoga >

Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:13 AM

Re: Your Kundalini Yoga routine

 

>

> So that is why I was asking about key texts or books. Here in London

> there doesn't seem to be in KY what you have in U.S. and beyond.

> There is no summer solstice festivals, not even an online bookstore.

> If I want books I have to get from Ancient Healing Ways which are

> expensive and THEN pay tax at over 20%. I was even thinking of

> starting a little bookstore here, an online one. There is teacher

> training, it is expensive, and something puts me off.

 

In Europe you can relate to www.satnam.de (this is what I do - I'm in

Italy): they have almost the same books, cds and dvds as a-healing.

 

> If you know of good things in London please let me know?

 

In London I know Siri Atma Singh (http://web.mac.com/siriatma), you can try

to contact him.

 

Blessings

 

Sujan S.

[Guest guest]

Sat nam--

 

I understand where you are coming from. One of the main 'mantras' of this

wonderful KY path is " initiate yourself " , which can seem very overwhelming at

first. The greatest thing you can do is to do a sadhana to develop your own

intuition so you can guide yourself (and be guided by all the higher beings

helping you and who are with you, even though you might not realize it). And

you are never alone when you practice, as long as you tune in!

I totally get the overwhelming feeling when you are beginning, and there's

sooooo much to choose from. I look at it kind of like Tarot cards----it really

doesn't matter which one you pick; each one is going to work on a facet of your

being. Granted, some will be more suited to your present condition, but either

way, its a journey. Sometimes we need to do a less " powerful " , but more subtle

meditation for a period of time. Its been great to read what other people have

developed as their personal sadhana. One thing I'd just like to throw out there

is that I find doing and sticking to one longer meditation (31 min), rather than

3 or 4 11 min ones, is more effective, and sticking to it for 40-120 days. That

really gives times to feel the effects of that meditation and let it sink in.

And above all, I always feel best when I just do the full Aquarian sadhana.

That being said, if you need personal sadhana mentoring, there are plenty of

older KY teachers who are very willing to help out beginning practitioners. As

some teachers do charge for this, there are certainly many others (in my

personal experience) who do not. Granted, talking with someone once for half an

hour is different than wanting to regularly see someone. Also, if you ever get

the chance to see Guru Dev Singh, he can give you good insight and a practice

for you to do. I highly recommend seeing him if you are able.

 

Keep up! You can do it!

 

Kehar Kaur

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " roses4god " <nomadicantihero wrote:

>

> I think to really follow all guidelines Yogi Bhajan has given us is very tough

and feasible mainly for the most dedicated yogis.

>

> My main point of criticism is that I feel pretty much alone in my journey to

higher consciousness. Yogi Bhajan gave us a lot of Kriyas, Mediations,

informations, advices...it's overwhelming.

>

> But it's on every individual to select the right meditation or kriya without

help from someone else. There are teachers and classes, but they don't really

serve to address questions of the individual student regarding his practise and

for getting advice. There's no way to figure out what type of meditation is the

best for the individual at that moment. It's difficult, especially for the

beginner to really understand on what part of the body/mind/spirit to work on.

So lots of people wander around in darkness and don't make any progress

whatsoever.

>

> After finding a good teacher, the student might want to really get expert

advice, but He has to book counseling, not for free of course.

>

> I like Kundalini Yoga and feel sympathie for the 3HO community, but I

personally don't consider the system helpful. I don't want to sound ungrateful

or negative. The technique and teachings of Yogi Bhajans are fantastic.

>

[Guest guest]

Sat nam " roses4god " nomadicantihero,

It sounds like you could use some community. I think it is essential for

humans, and yet we also resist community or don't let it in (this is not a

commentary on you, but just something I have generally noticed). In my case it

was the ways my family had let me down that made me mistrustful of community

even while living in one (an ashram), until I let that go.

Yes, the amount of kriyas and sets and meditations are bountiful and could seem

overwhelming. I only have a few books. I am a teacher, and I get by and find

enough for my own practice as well, from these few books.

As for how to select sets and things, I pay attention to either what's going on

in my life, or what's going on in my body for cues as to what kinds of sets to

be doing. Achy in a certain part of the back? Do sets that address chakras

near that section of the spine and you'll probably unblock whatever you need to

in yourself in that moment. Chest, upper back, shoulder or arm pain? Do sets

and meditations for the heart. I am also a licensed massage therapist so I

observe my clients. Everyone is coming in with lower back pain? Perhaps we

need to do a set that works a lot with the lower chakras... (My clients aren't

necessarily in my class, but I think there are trends that everyone is going

through, just like right now there's a cold going around where everybody feels

really tired...Also, I see my clients and students as a reflection of what I am

going through. And I teach based on the needs I see around me. Everyone is

usually pleased and some even say, " That's just what i needed. " ) And some

manuals have an index where you can look sets up by their name/purpose and the

same for meditations.

As for teachers that will only counsel you and suggest sets for you for a payed

counseling session, that's too bad. I understand the concept of needing to have

an energy exchange, and i know your teachers need to make a living, but i don't

like to have cost be prohibitive when it comes to health and well-being, so I

always have a sliding scale and am also open to barter. If you lived near me, i

could help you and you could help me with yardwork or help with my meditation

garden or paint the 2nd coat of paint on the ceiling of my studio or bring me

some homegrown veggies or a pot of hearty vegetarian stew. Have you tried

asking if your teachers will barter?

Good luck, I hope my comments help.

Guru Beant Kaur in N FL

 

 

 

 

4a. Re: Your Kundalini Yoga routine

Posted by: " roses4god " nomadicantihero roses4god

Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:48 pm ((PDT))

 

I think to really follow all guidelines Yogi Bhajan has given us is very tough

and

feasible mainly for the most dedicated yogis.

 

My main point of criticism is that I feel pretty much alone in my journey to

higher

consciousness. Yogi Bhajan gave us a lot of Kriyas, Mediations, informations,

advices...it's overwhelming.

 

But it's on every individual to select the right meditation or kriya without

help from

someone else. There are teachers and classes, but they don't really serve to

address

questions of the individual student regarding his practise and for getting

advice.

There's no way to figure out what type of meditation is the best for the

individual at

that moment. It's difficult, especially for the beginner to really understand on

what

part of the body/mind/spirit to work on. So lots of people wander around in

darkness and

don't make any progress whatsoever.

 

After finding a good teacher, the student might want to really get expert

advice, but He

has to book counseling, not for free of course.

 

I like Kundalini Yoga and feel sympathie for the 3HO community, but I personally

don't

consider the system helpful. I don't want to sound ungrateful or negative. The

technique

and teachings of Yogi Bhajans are fantastic.

 

 

 

Bridget Kamke, LMT

Kundalini Yoga Teacher

Licensed Massage Therapist

Children's Book Author

www.infinipede.com

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello all,

 

I agree about this initiating yourself stuff as previously mentioned. We need to take responsibility for our own spiritual growth and development and we can't think that a guru or teacher will provide all the answers we seek. sure they can provide guidance, etc but the reality is the very thing we seek is within us. So it's obviously best to do what you feel like and do the kriyas, sets etc that you feel drawn to.

 

I used to do yoga for 8 years and then switched for qigong for 3 years and now am into kundalini yoga. I felt weird that I switched to qigong, which was a different system. I felt like I was 'betraying' yoga to some degree but really I wasn't. I mean there are many ways and many things to explore so it makes sense to just follow the beat of your own drum.

 

Whatever floats your boat!

 

Paula

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam!

 

I understand your feelings Roses. I am new to Kundalini yoga and Sat

Nam Rasayan and it was all quite overwhelming. As you meditate on Wahe

Guru you might realize that the answers are within. Somebody sent me

the kirtan kriya to do and everytime I feel lost or alone or unsure

what to do, this reconnects me. Ask the universe for what you want

specifically, then let go and pay attention. I am constantly reminding

myself that all you need you can have.

Blessings,

 

Harsimranpreet Kaur

 

 

 

roses4god <nomadicantihero

Kundalini-Yoga

Wed, Sep 30, 2009 10:04 pm

Re: Your Kundalini Yoga routine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think to really follow all guidelines Yogi Bhajan has given us is

very tough and feasible mainly for the most dedicated yogis.

 

 

 

My main point of criticism is that I feel pretty much alone in my

journey to higher consciousness. Yogi Bhajan gave us a lot of Kriyas,

Mediations, informations, advices...it's overwhelming.

 

 

 

But it's on every individual to select the right meditation or kriya

without help from someone else. There are teachers and classes, but

they don't really serve to address questions of the individual student

regarding his practise and for getting advice. There's no way to figure

out what type of meditation is the best for the individual at that

moment. It's difficult, especially for the beginner to really

understand on what part of the body/mind/spirit to work on. So lots of

people wander around in darkness and don't make any progress

whatsoever.

 

 

 

After finding a good teacher, the student might want to really get

expert advice, but He has to book counseling, not for free of course.

 

 

 

I like Kundalini Yoga and feel sympathie for the 3HO community, but I

personally don't consider the system helpful. I don't want to sound

ungrateful or negative. The technique and teachings of Yogi Bhajans are

fantastic.

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

If it was so easy to initiate oneself and develop the intuition to understand it

all, the world would be full of shiny happy people. The statement that the

student is never alone if practising ky, since the Gurus protect and guide us

makes sense but it's an experience which needs a lot of faith and it's not easy

to make. It's this typical New Age talk which might inspire but doesn't offer

practical help.

 

My experience after countless classes and a handful of teachers is that I

definitely miss substance. It's not a class for me if the teacher copies a kriya

from a book 5 mins prior to class and that's what we practise.

 

The main reason I actually participate is just the inspiration I get by

practising in a group. It doesn't need a teacher but the group is important for

me. Undoubtedly there are teachers who radiate a good energy and even serve as a

kind of rolemodel but that's the exception.

 

Not that it's all about money, I don't think classes or trainings are usually

overpriced, and there are things for free such as Sadhana and Gurdwara. But on

the other hand 3HO feels like a service provider, offering courses, classes,

festivals a lot of good things, but not providing real help on the spiritual

path in form of a 'mentor' students can consult if necessary and who supervises

students interested in it. Selfless help is something I don't see. It can be my

personal experience and I don't want to generalize.

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

I think other people can respond to this more lucidly than I, but I think if you

see my earlier response to Suknivas, I would say the same.

 

The mass of Technology is massive, but it's not about how much you know that

matters. Simple patience, devotion and keeping up is all you really need. The

mass of literature you have to understand is for Teachers to share with students

for over a thousand years into the future. Yogi Bhajan came here to train

generations of teachers, so he gave us A LOT.

 

As a student teacher myself, I'd say very simply: Forget the info, and do what

you can no matter how little. Do it with devotion, and it doesn't matter what

specific exercises you do. There is only one God, you think he/she cares which

language you speak in?

 

And finally keep steady without guilt or regret... Be forgiving to yourself and

keep up as best you can. And if you can ideally do it in a group, then merge

with the group - it's the fastest way to enlightenment.

 

A teacher said to me recently: The difference between no practice and a little

practice is vastly greater than a little and a lot. (K.I.S!)

 

Another teacher once said before a workshop class: " Now I want you to all be...

really... really... really... (as the whole class caught it's breath with ears

tuned and pencils poised)... stupid. "

 

Regardless of all of the info, sometimes the best thing you can do is forget

what you know. It can actually be really simple: You. The Group. God.

Consciousness. Laugh, smile and enjoy life.

 

Wahe Guru,

Fateh

[Guest guest]

Is it easier to be in a state of calm and happiness then stress and

confusion? You are right, you have to have faith. You are beautiful

just as you are right now!

 

 

 

roses4god <nomadicantihero

Kundalini-Yoga

Thu, Oct 1, 2009 10:06 am

Re: Your Kundalini Yoga routine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sat Nam,

 

 

 

If it was so easy to initiate oneself and develop the intuition to

understand it all, the world would be full of shiny happy people. The

statement that the student is never alone if practising ky, since the

Gurus protect and guide us makes sense but it's an experience which

needs a lot of faith and it's not easy to make. It's this typical New

Age talk which might inspire but doesn't offer practical help.

 

 

 

My experience after countless classes and a handful of teachers is that

I definitely miss substance. It's not a class for me if the teacher

copies a kriya from a book 5 mins prior to class and that's what we

practise.

 

 

 

The main reason I actually participate is just the inspiration I get by

practising in a group. It doesn't need a teacher but the group is

important for me. Undoubtedly there are teachers who radiate a good

energy and even serve as a kind of rolemodel but that's the exception.

 

 

 

Not that it's all about money, I don't think classes or trainings are

usually overpriced, and there are things for free such as Sadhana and

Gurdwara. But on the other hand 3HO feels like a service provider,

offering courses, classes, festivals a lot of good things, but not

providing real help on the spiritual path in form of a 'mentor'

students can consult if necessary and who supervises students

interested in it. Selfless help is something I don't see. It can be my

personal experience and I don't want to generalize.

[Guest guest]

Dear Fateh,

I am not so sure that other 'kriyas' would help me as much as these ones (for

OCD) that really hit the spot. And I don't know if I would of been drawn into

the other KY stuff if I couldn't get relief from that. So I disagree with an

entirely devotional approach, what use is that if you are really unwell.

As for hyperebole, well, ever noticed how illness does manifest in patterns,

that is how we are able to diagnose and treat. And you don't think these kinds

of 'illnesses' have always existed in society, and you don't think the yogi's

knew how to treat them?

Well David Shannahoff-Khalsa does scientific research into these conditions;

nasal cycles, deep brain rythyms etc. And science learns a lot about the normal

functioning brain as well as consciousness and even insights such as neural

plasticity from these observations.

So Fateh, prove to me that it is so much hyperebole and that any devotional

thing will do!

Whoever chose those techniques and why, did so carefully and thought them out,

they are inclusive and follow a pattern.

Sat Nam,

Sukhnivas/Paul Jenkins