integration... was integration and racing mind

[Guest guest]

Thanks again all who replied. I do have one more question. Will the

integration of a kriya happen no matter what? How can we hang on to the feeling

that certain kriyas give us? For example, I can feel the kundalini rising.

Sometimes I am aware of it the entire practice. Other times it comes and goes.

However, most certainly after savasana it is gone and sometimes the affects of

it seem to be gone as well. I know I'm being healed physically and emotionally,

and I would like to carry the goodness of my practice for longer in my day.

 

Sat Nam!

Kelli

[Guest guest]

Blessed Soul,

 

I am truly happy to note that Kundalini has started awakening in you. Olease keep up the good worl and stabilize the ascending and descending process, which will take quite a few months of steady practice. It would be advisable to have an experienced Guru by your side to guide you/restrict you/put you on the right track during the difficult periods of awakening.

 

Integration of a kriya will happen no matter what. It will take its own time and the integration will happen on its own. One does not have to put extra efforts to achieve it.

 

Hanging on to the results of a kriya will also have to happen slowly. All one has to do is keep up the regular practice.

 

Please remember that the bofy metabolism tends to slow down when Kundalini wakes up. One has to be very careful in the intake of food. I am sure you already know these details. If there are doubts, please do write back.

 

All the very best.

 

May GOD shower his choicest blessings on you.

 

Shankar Warrier

 

 

 

hillfolkmama <kudzumountainKundalini-Yoga Sent: Sat, 12 December, 2009 10:06:40 AM Re: integration... was integration and racing mind

Thanks again all who replied. I do have one more question. Will the integration of a kriya happen no matter what? How can we hang on to the feeling that certain kriyas give us? For example, I can feel the kundalini rising. Sometimes I am aware of it the entire practice. Other times it comes and goes. However, most certainly after savasana it is gone and sometimes the affects of it seem to be gone as well. I know I'm being healed physically and emotionally, and I would like to carry the goodness of my practice for longer in my day.Sat Nam!Kelli

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Kelli,

Yogi Bhajan taught us that both sadhana-, k\K-yoga and

meditation/chanting, and Gurdwara are both needed to sustain the energy

of sadhana.

 

Kundalini Yoga raises the energy up the chakras and Gurdwara balances

that energy so that we do not have extremes of highs and lows. Both are

highly refined sciences to live fully as a human being, that are

tremendously powerful when used together.

 

Loving Blessings,

SS Guru Prem Kaur Khalsa

 

www.yogagems.com

www.myspace.com/guruprem

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Guru Prem,

 

Based on the previous discussions, and posting, by Kelli and others, I would

'guess' (I am not not making an assumption here, of what is known or not) I am

'guessing' that Kelli and possibly others, most likely don't know what you mean

by Gurdwara or Sadhana. I am not sure that I do either.

 

Regards,

 

Sat Avtar Kaur

 

Kundalini-Yoga , Guruprem Kaur <guruprem wrote:

>

> Sat Nam Kelli,

> Yogi Bhajan taught us that both sadhana-, k\K-yoga and

> meditation/chanting, and Gurdwara are both needed to sustain the energy

> of sadhana.

>

> Kundalini Yoga raises the energy up the chakras and Gurdwara balances

> that energy so that we do not have extremes of highs and lows. Both are

> highly refined sciences to live fully as a human being, that are

> tremendously powerful when used together.

>

> Loving Blessings,

> SS Guru Prem Kaur Khalsa

>

> www.yogagems.com

> www.myspace.com/guruprem

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam!

I do not have a Guru anywhere near me. I am practicing on my own, and I believe

I will be until I pursue my own teacher training in the future... (I'm thinking

I'm being called in that direction.) I have only been practicing since June

2009. I only have one Kundalini Yoga book (8 Human Talents) and 2 DVDs (Maya

Fiennes and Gurmukh Kaur Khalsa). I am practicing with the set in The 8 Human

Talents right now.

 

I am familiar with what Sadhana is... early morning practice, but I don't know

what Gurdwara is. I plan on purchasing Kundalini Yoga: The Eternal Flow as soon

as I can get the money.

 

Another thing that I had never heard is that the kundalini rising slows the

metabolism. That is worrisome to me. I just lost 100 pounds the correct way

and feel healthier than ever. I feel like I'm am pulling together my being in

all aspects for true health. I tend to equate sluggish metabolism with

unhealth.

 

Be blessed,

Kelli

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Kelli,

 

I had a Kundalini Energy rising the around the 1st of November, I was so full of

energy and charged up(the same as in the past experiences with it) that I

uploaded 50 pages to my website, and made sure they transferred over correctly,

learned how to embed pdf files, had about 3 hours sleep in 3 days, ate very

little, was having the TIME OF MY LIFE, really happy, and energetic and I have

a 'slow' metabolism, most of the time. And, I do not have 'good health' right

now. I have never heard of a Kundalini Energy Rise slowing anything down, it

speeds everything up. Perhaps, the experience of Kundalini energy rising is

personal to each one of us. On my website, I have an entire page of what a

person can experience when Kundalini energy starts moving around and I have have

had most of them. You will find them on this page:

http://www.kundaliniyogainfocntr.com/page/Signs+of+Kundalini+Energy+Awakening+-+\

New

 

The entire section, is on Kundalini Energy and Enlightment or the Non-Dual

Experience, there is a path or method or way outline by Pieter who went through

the entire experience many years ago. There are other paths and methods and all

of this has been discussed on this forum in the last couple of months or so. In

over 40 years of reading on this topic, researching it and experiencing, I have

never heard of it slowing anything down.

 

Blessings,

 

Sat Avtar Kaur

http://www.kundaliniyogainfocntr.com/

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " hillfolkmama " <kudzumountain wrote:

>

> Sat Nam!

> I do not have a Guru anywhere near me. I am practicing on my own, and I

believe I will be until I pursue my own teacher training in the future... (I'm

thinking I'm being called in that direction.) I have only been practicing since

June 2009. I only have one Kundalini Yoga book (8 Human Talents) and 2 DVDs

(Maya Fiennes and Gurmukh Kaur Khalsa). I am practicing with the set in The 8

Human Talents right now.

>

> I am familiar with what Sadhana is... early morning practice, but I don't know

what Gurdwara is. I plan on purchasing Kundalini Yoga: The Eternal Flow as soon

as I can get the money.

>

> Another thing that I had never heard is that the kundalini rising slows the

metabolism. That is worrisome to me. I just lost 100 pounds the correct way

and feel healthier than ever. I feel like I'm am pulling together my being in

all aspects for true health. I tend to equate sluggish metabolism with

unhealth.

>

> Be blessed,

> Kelli

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

When I found Kundalini Yoga in 2006, everyone, all the teachers including an

international well known teacher, all talked about Sadhana 4:00am practice. So

I started doing Sadhana, I got 4 am, I did few stretches that I had learned in

class and then I did my choice of mantras and I was so proud of myself for doing

Sadhana like everyone else. There was not one teacher that ever bothered to

explain that Sadhana has special mantras that need to be said in the right

order. I didn't learn that until I bought a Sadhana book, then I stopped it

all. Recently someone on here referred to the TT manual and that did not tell

me anything. I try not to make assumptions. I don't always succeed, but I try.

 

Regards,

 

Sat Avtar Kaur

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " sat_avtar_kaur " <myralorey wrote:

>

> Sat Nam Guru Prem,

>

> Based on the previous discussions, and posting, by Kelli and others, I would

'guess' (I am not not making an assumption here, of what is known or not) I am

'guessing' that Kelli and possibly others, most likely don't know what you mean

by Gurdwara or Sadhana. I am not sure that I do either.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sat Avtar Kaur

>

> Kundalini-Yoga , Guruprem Kaur <guruprem@> wrote:

> >

> > Sat Nam Kelli,

> > Yogi Bhajan taught us that both sadhana-, k\K-yoga and

> > meditation/chanting, and Gurdwara are both needed to sustain the energy

> > of sadhana.

> >

> > Kundalini Yoga raises the energy up the chakras and Gurdwara balances

> > that energy so that we do not have extremes of highs and lows. Both are

> > highly refined sciences to live fully as a human being, that are

> > tremendously powerful when used together.

> >

> > Loving Blessings,

> > SS Guru Prem Kaur Khalsa

> >

> > www.yogagems.com

> > www.myspace.com/guruprem

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

I note that you are practicing on your own and do not have a Guru / one who had an earlier experience in awakening Kundalini. Awakening of Kundalini Power is something very serious and should be approachede with considerable caution. First of all please try to understand the power well. With the awakening of Kundalini, one would be unleashing high voltage power. One's body and mind should have the capacity to hold this tremendous flow of power. Book knowledge can help a Sadhaka a long way. But I still feel that you should have a Guru / some one who has experience in awakening Kundalini. Any of the numerous things could go wrong and the desastrous result could become quite serious.

 

What you would achieve would be the active functioning of all the 10 lobes of your brain, where only one is functioning for a normal human being, and that too at a far less efficiency percentage. When Kundalini awakens and makes its trip upwards forcibly opening the Chaktas (Energy Centres) on its way, it is something like a high voltage electric current passing through the body. First of all the body should be made strong to contain that power. As it passes through the various Chakras, new worlds would open to the Sadhaka, new visions and whole new worlds would open for him/her.

 

Slowing down of the whole body metabolism would accompany Kundalini awakening. You need not connect it with unhealth. This will be a temporary phenomenon which will pass once Kundalini gets back to where it started from. Also, please remember that Kundalini will awaken (for the first time) only when the body is at the peak of health.

 

When it is on the ascend for the first time, you will CERTAINLY require the guidance of a GURU. You may keep practicing until you reach the stage of awakening. But then, maintain that level and do not venture into the awakening until you have located an adept GURU. I trust you understand the seriousness. The process is actually an evolution from a normal human being to a super natural person!!! Hence, please take maximum care and also ensure elimination of mistakes.

 

I do not intend to scare you away. But I do feel that you and many others in this forum (from the replies they sent) lack the actual knowledge of what this is all about - looking at it in a practical way. The least I could suggest is for you to learn more about Kundalini, as it REALLY is, with out any frills.

 

At the service of DHARMA

Shankar Warrier

 

 

 

hillfolkmama <kudzumountainKundalini-Yoga Sent: Sat, 12 December, 2009 11:11:24 PM Re: integration... was integration and racing mind

Sat Nam!I do not have a Guru anywhere near me. I am practicing on my own, and I believe I will be until I pursue my own teacher training in the future... (I'm thinking I'm being called in that direction.) I have only been practicing since June 2009. I only have one Kundalini Yoga book (8 Human Talents) and 2 DVDs (Maya Fiennes and Gurmukh Kaur Khalsa). I am practicing with the set in The 8 Human Talents right now.I am familiar with what Sadhana is... early morning practice, but I don't know what Gurdwara is. I plan on purchasing Kundalini Yoga: The Eternal Flow as soon as I can get the money.Another thing that I had never heard is that the kundalini rising slows the metabolism. That is worrisome to me. I just lost 100 pounds the correct way and feel healthier than ever. I feel like I'm am pulling together my being in all aspects for true health. I tend to equate sluggish metabolism with unhealth.Be

blessed,Kelli

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam

I don't know but there is something about this letter, and previous ones that I

really don't like.

Many people in the world are falling over and getting crushed daily by the

Universe, suffering terrible pains and ills, what makes the drama of KY

awakening so special.

And the suggestion is go give some coins to a commercial 'Guru'.

I have KY dysfunction since age 5, I have never met anyone who even understands

this. I thank God for medication and KY, yet still they are hardly a match for

KY dysfunction.

Don't be so sure you know KY shakti, and if you do then for gods sake help us!

Sukhnivas

 

Kundalini-Yoga , Shankar Warrier <shankar_warrier

wrote:

>

> Sat Nam,

>

> I note that you are practicing on your own and do not have a Guru / one who

had an earlier experience in awakening Kundalini. Awakening of Kundalini Power

is something very serious and should be approachede with considerable caution.

First of all please try to understand the power well. With the awakening of

Kundalini, one would be unleashing high voltage power. One's body and mind

should have the capacity to hold this tremendous flow of power. Book knowledge

can help a Sadhaka a long way. But I still feel that you should have a Guru /

some one who has experience in  awakening Kundalini. Any of the numerous things

could go wrong and the desastrous result could become quite serious.

>

> What you would achieve would be the active functioning of all the 10 lobes of

your brain, where only one is functioning for a normal human being, and that

too at a far less efficiency percentage. When Kundalini awakens and makes its

trip upwards forcibly opening the Chaktas (Energy Centres) on its way, it is

something like a high voltage electric current passing through the body. First

of all the body should be made strong  to contain that power. As it passes

through the various Chakras, new worlds would open to the Sadhaka, new visions

and whole new worlds would open for him/her.

>

> Slowing down of the whole body metabolism would accompany Kundalini awakening.

You need not connect it with unhealth. This will be a temporary phenomenon which

will pass once Kundalini gets back to where it started from. Also, please

remember that Kundalini will awaken (for the first time) only when the body is

at the peak of health.

>

> When it is on the ascend for the first time, you will CERTAINLY require the

guidance of a GURU. You may keep practicing until you reach the stage of

awakening. But then, maintain that level and do not venture into the awakening

until you have located an adept GURU. I trust you understand the seriousness.

The process is actually an evolution from a normal human being to a super

natural person!!! Hence, please take maximum care and also ensure elimination of

mistakes.

>

> I do not intend to scare you away. But I do feel that you and many others in

this forum (from the replies they sent) lack the actual knowledge of what this

is all about - looking at it in a practical way. The least I could suggest is

for you to learn more about Kundalini, as it REALLY is, with out any frills.

>

> At the service of DHARMA

> Shankar Warrier

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> hillfolkmama <kudzumountain

> Kundalini-Yoga

> Sat, 12 December, 2009 11:11:24 PM

> Re: integration... was integration and racing mind

>

>  

> Sat Nam!

> I do not have a Guru anywhere near me. I am practicing on my own, and I

believe I will be until I pursue my own teacher training in the future... (I'm

thinking I'm being called in that direction.) I have only been practicing since

June 2009. I only have one Kundalini Yoga book (8 Human Talents) and 2 DVDs

(Maya Fiennes and Gurmukh Kaur Khalsa). I am practicing with the set in The 8

Human Talents right now.

>

> I am familiar with what Sadhana is... early morning practice, but I don't know

what Gurdwara is. I plan on purchasing Kundalini Yoga: The Eternal Flow as soon

as I can get the money.

>

> Another thing that I had never heard is that the kundalini rising slows the

metabolism. That is worrisome to me. I just lost 100 pounds the correct way and

feel healthier than ever. I feel like I'm am pulling together my being in all

aspects for true health. I tend to equate sluggish metabolism with unhealth.

>

> Be blessed,

> Kelli

>

>

>

>

>

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

>

[Guest guest]

Sat nam all-

 

I'd like some clarification from the group about the " kundalini experience "

within the context of kundalini yoga. I know Yogi Bhajan said that if KY was

practiced properly, the kundalini energy would unfold on its own in a safe way.

I suppose I equated non-KY-guided awakenings with the intense, painful

descriptions that are in various places all over te internet. But it seems like

there are people who practice KY and have some intense energetic experiences

outside the norm....what is the norm?

 

thanks,

Kehar Kaur

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

Just to let you know how common it can be to not know about

Gurdwara---when I lived in LA and went to classes at Yoga West years

ago, I was the only turban-wearing person there besides the teacher, and

made friends with a lot of yogis. People started asking me where the

temple was that they had heard about, not knowing it was just down the

street!

 

Gurdwara means /Guru's doo/r. It can be a building or held out in a

meadow. The /doorway/ leads to Guru consciousness, the feeling you get

when you meditatively sit in Gurdwara and listen to and sing Guru's

words, just as the Gurus first resonated them in God consciousness.

 

When we walk into a Gurdwara we respectfully cover our solar centers on

our crown with cotton cloth, walk up to the altar where the /Siri Guru

Granth Sahib/ sits--Gurus' words in the form of a book, where we give a

donation and bow.

 

We give, for as we give we receive. We bow with the head lower than the

heart to let the heart rule, and let go of thoughts and anxieties,

giving them to the Guru so to speak. In that moment the emptied mind is

flooded with peace.

 

Commonly men sit on the left side and women on the right side in a

relaxed yet dynamic form of tantric yoga.

 

The Gurdwara service is very simple. We sit comfortably on the floor or

on a chair if need be, meditatively listen and sing. It is the best,

most divinely empowered time to pray.

 

Yogi Bhajan gave a Gurdwara meditation to feel strong as steel, steady

as stone like a golden yogi, where you sit very straight and imagine

your spine to be a golden rod, from the infinite to the infinite,

radiating golden light in all directions, blessing the earth. You can

also use this time to imagine that you are basking in the golden light

of the Golden Temple of Amritsar.

 

To understand the miraculous power of the Golden Temple visualization go

to: http://www.yogagems.com/services/goldentemplemeditation.html

 

Towards the end of Gurdwara we sing a shabad called /Anand Sahib/--the

Song of Bliss. We then stand to attentively support a prayer given by a

person who calls on the primal female power and eleven Gurus to give

blessings, including birthdays, deaths and healing needed both

intuitively and based on prayer requests folks have made. We bow

acknowledging the power of the prayer, stand again for a song about the

beauty of taking a Hukam--a random reading from the Siri Guru Granth

Sahib//, and then sit to listen while the random Hukam is read aloud.

 

These Hukams address what is going on in each person and in the

community. For instance, in Sunday Gurdwara today the reader opened to a

Hukam that got people laughing it was so right on! based on what we, as

the Mother Ashram, going through with the UI board:

........................

Shalok, Second Guru (Guru Angad):

If a servant performs service, while being vain and argumentative, he

may talk as much as he wants, but he shall not be pleasing to his

Master. But if he eliminates his self-conceit and then performs service,

he shall be honored. O Nanak, if he merges with the one with whom he is

attached, his attachment becomes acceptable. ||1||

 

Second Guru:

Whatever is in the mind, comes forth; spoken words by themselves are

just wind. He sows seeds of poison, and demands Ambrosial Nectar. Behold

- what justice is this? ||2||

 

Second Guru:

Friendship with a fool never works out right. As he knows, he acts;

behold, and see that it is so. One thing can be absorbed into another

thing, but duality keeps them apart. No one can issue commands to the

Lord Master; offer instead humble prayers. Practicing falsehood, only

falsehood is obtained. O Nanak, through the Lord's Praise, one blossoms

forth. ||3||

 

Second Guru:

Friendship with a fool, and love with a pompous person, are like lines

drawn in water, leaving no trace or mark. ||4||

 

Second Guru:

If a fool does a job, he cannot do it right. Even if he does something

right, he does the next thing wrong. ||5||

 

Pauree:

If a servant, performing service, obeys the Will of his Master, his

honor increases, and he receives double his wages. But if he claims to

be equal to his Master, he earns his Master's displeasure. He loses his

entire salary, and is also beaten on his face with shoes. Let us all

celebrate Him, from whom we receive our nourishment. O Nanak, no one can

issue commands to the Lord Master; let us offer prayers instead. ||22||

................................

 

After the Hukam is read, a small handful of /Guru's Prashad/ is served

to everyone. Guru's Prashad is a sweet concoction of clarified butter,

flour, honey or sugar and water. When heated sugary water is poured into

a wok of flour toasted in butter, it implodes into a kind of thick

pudding that does not stick to your hands. It was designed by the Gurus

so that anyone can eat it, including toothless babies and oldsters.

Guru's Prashad sits in a covered metal bowl near the " Guru " s table, to

absorb the vibrations and blessings of our prayers and kirtan. It only

takes a tiny bit to energetically impart that sweet blessing.

 

Gurdwaras are followed by a free kitchen known as Langar, where we

usually sit on the floor in rows back to back, like at Summer Solstice

meals, all together as equals. This tradition began in the time of the

third Guru, Guru Amar Das. Rajas and folks from the highest to the

lowest social ranks ate Langar together before having an audience with

the Guru.

 

To learn more about empowering kriyas and your prayers by calling on the

Gurus go to: http://www.yogagems.com/guruyoga.html

 

Loving Blessings,

SS Guru Prem Kaur Khalsa

 

Website: www.yogagems.com

Ongoing Blog: www.myspace.com/guruprem

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Ji,

 

Just a added observation...

 

Kundalini has a cumulative effect... The practice you do today can have it's

results 30-40 days later. Which is why a 40 day practice is so strong and

effective... By the 30-40th days you are doing the work [on top of, and]

cumulative with the effects of the first day... At least that's my experience.

 

And it comes in waves from then on, as blocks are opened and released like huge

waves building, pulling and growing, and crashing and releasing against the

shore, the Kundalini rises and subsides, all the time moving with the tides and

seasons of your life.

 

The rest (relaxation, integration) and action of it also moves in micro and

macrocosms, from the miniature relaxation between each breath, to the relaxation

between each motion, each exercise, each kriya, and each day, to the ebb and

flow of the seasons, and life... the process of Sa Ta Na Ma (Birth Life Death

Rebirth) continues to cycle.

 

Fateh

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

 

One more added note...

 

For those with personal practices outside of a class setting and without the

guidance of a teacher... the 3 most valuable things you can do, in my humble

opinion, are:

 

1) Cover your head.

2) Properly tune (and out) in with reverence.

3) Always do your deep relax, and extend it if necessary*.

 

*7-11 minutes minimum, with soothing music, and if you end with Sat Kriya, it is

very powerful, needing deeper integration, any amount of time you do (e.g.

11minues) you should double the relax time (e.g. 22minutes).

 

extra 4) If you are still racing and heart beating after you end with your

meditation, simply chanting for a few minutes to Guru Ram Das with hands on

heart (left under right) with love and healing for the self should equalize you

to earth before you tune out. Then eat a little something, talk to someone, have

some water, or ideally yogi tea.

 

love,

Fateh