Guest guest Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Sat Nam, Has anyone read or heard Yogi Bhajan talk about the science of why men put right thumb over left for venus lock and women put left thumb over right ? Thank you in advance for your assistance. peace to ALL, Catalyst Yogi http://www.catalystyogi.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Sat Nam! These are the asnwers I've received when I asked about Venus Lock.......... 1st: It's not about the Mercury finger, it's about the energy flowing through the thumbs as they rest on the fleshy mound of the opposite thumb. In women the receptive ( " south pole " ) energy is dominant and in men opposite. Because the energy flows through the hands and the Venus lock is a strong lock wherein the thumb and " venus " mound are locked, the energy flow is strong and in reverse polarity for men and women. So, the easy way to teach it is, " Men - right thumb closer to the body. Women - left thumb closer to the body. " 2nd: Here's my understanding. Males and Females are opposite polarities. It is a question of balancing the hemispheres of the brain. (Where the little fingers end up is the result of the placement of the thumbs in order to activate the energies of two specific pressure points: the mound of Venus and the mound of Mars. Venus lock begins with the Thumbs. The right thumb of the male is placed on the fleshy mound of his left thumb (next to the palm of the hand (it's called the mound of Venus), and his left thumb tip is placed in the " web " between his right thumb and forefinger (this is the mound of mars) then each of the other fingers are alternately interlaced. (Women reverse the placement of the thumbs, etc.) Then the nerve endings in the fingertips relate to the two sides of the brain. Applying the Venus lock helps to contain energy. .BTW, the thumbs are NOT crossed. 3rd: Venus Lock entails having all fingers alternating, from the smallest to the top thumb. Men, whose right thumb is on top, naturally end up with the left little finger last. Women, whose left thumb is on top, naturally end up with the right little finger being last. In the 1980s David Shannahoff Khalsa was asked by Yogiji to research the benefits of men and women doing it correctly, and the outcome if it is done the opposite way. When Yogiji proposed this scientific experiment he mentioned that many people normally fold their hands in their lap in a Venus Lock position, and that you can tell where they are at if you pay attention-such as when viewing politicians on TV. The general problems are that a man who does it the female way cannot be trusted, and women who do it the male way can be rude and manipulative. Whether or not David did the research, he would be able to expound upon this explanation more thoroughly. Yogji mentioned that he did not teach the reason for male and female versions of Venus Lock because he did not want to " take the flak. " His reasoning was that if David researched it scientifically it would not be questioned, and could be shared freely at that time. * Back then I naturally held my hands with the right thumb on top. It felt uncomfortable to do it the female way. But it only took a month of consciously setting my fingers correctly when meditating, riding in a car and watching TV, etc, for it to self-correct. And, yes, I feel the difference in temperment. I hope this helps! Blessings, Sujan S. - " Catalyst Yogi " <peace <Kundalini-Yoga > Saturday, December 26, 2009 6:45 PM Polarity - Venus Lock Sat Nam, Has anyone read or heard Yogi Bhajan talk about the science of why men put right thumb over left for venus lock and women put left thumb over right ? Thank you in advance for your assistance. peace to ALL, Catalyst Yogi http://www.catalystyogi.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Sat Nam, Yes, I was at a meeting between Yogiji and David Shannahoff, who asked this question. Yogiji told him that men are to have the right thumb on top with the fingers aligned, and the women with the left thumb on top, properly alternating the fingers. He noted that if a man does it the female way and if a woman does it the male way, it reveals personality conflicts, which can be corrected by placing your hands in the correct mudra for yourself at every opportunity--while sitting, meditating, watching TV, etc, until it feels natural. Yogiji mentioned that you can watch how people cross their thumbs when they are being interviewed on TV. If it is not correct for a man, it indicates that he should not be trusted. Women who do it the male way may be testy and easily irritated. David was told to do a clinical study to show a clear range of differences it makes. Blessings, SS Guru Prem Kaur Khalsa www.yogagems.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I'm so glad this came up! When I first started Kundalini Yoga, I naturally put my right thumb on top. I was always curious what it meant. My intuition told me, " dominance. " I have seen a huge difference in myself this iplementing the opposite position. It felt very unnatural at first, like having your shoes on the wrong foot. Before, I was irritable, rude, and had constant mental arguments. I was always having frustrating conflicts. I think this is common as the Kundalini is rising. I've noticed it a lot in students in mid-life. Now I am able to not react or get embroiled with people I will clash with...I slip away. Satpal Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 sat nam! so, i have always wondered why in venus lock, the thumbs are not crossed, but when practicing sat kriya and also in the sa re sa sa meditation, the thumbs are supposed to be crossed. thanks, ravi inder Kundalini-Yoga , " awakenedsoul2001 " <balletstef wrote: > > > > I'm so glad this came up! When I first started Kundalini Yoga, I naturally put my right thumb on top. I was always curious what it meant. My intuition told me, " dominance. " I have seen a huge difference in myself this iplementing the opposite position. It felt very unnatural at first, like having your shoes on the wrong foot. Before, I was irritable, rude, and had constant mental arguments. I was always having frustrating conflicts. I think this is common as the Kundalini is rising. I've noticed it a lot in students in mid-life. Now I am able to not react or get embroiled with people I will clash with...I slip away. > > Satpal Kaur > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Sat Nam, I am confused now, I thought Venus lock was part of Sat Kriya? What are we talking about? Sukhnivas Kundalini-Yoga , " blissfulyogamama " <blissfulyogamama wrote: > > sat nam! > so, i have always wondered why in venus lock, the thumbs are not crossed, but when practicing sat kriya and also in the sa re sa sa meditation, the thumbs are supposed to be crossed. > thanks, > ravi inder > > Kundalini-Yoga , " awakenedsoul2001 " <balletstef@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm so glad this came up! When I first started Kundalini Yoga, I naturally put my right thumb on top. I was always curious what it meant. My intuition told me, " dominance. " I have seen a huge difference in myself this iplementing the opposite position. It felt very unnatural at first, like having your shoes on the wrong foot. Before, I was irritable, rude, and had constant mental arguments. I was always having frustrating conflicts. I think this is common as the Kundalini is rising. I've noticed it a lot in students in mid-life. Now I am able to not react or get embroiled with people I will clash with...I slip away. > > > > Satpal Kaur > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Sat Nam! We're talking about....a mudra :-) See kundalini yogamudras.html or http://www.thesecretsofyoga.com/Mudras/Venus-Lock.html Blessings, Sujan S. - " beautiful22 " <22taro <Kundalini-Yoga > Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:58 PM Re:Polarity - Venus Lock Sat Nam, I am confused now, I thought Venus lock was part of Sat Kriya? What are we talking about? Sukhnivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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