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-"Dr Jonn MumfordSwami Anandakapila Saraswati" ANANDAKAPILA'S NOTES TO SELECT STUDENTS Volume III, Karma Special Saturday, October 23, 2004Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:29:45 +1000Yogacharya Dr.Ananda Balayogi Bhavanani

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This week I have devoted

the ‘notes’ to an excellent article “Exploring Karma” from the ‘Exotic India’

site.

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like to introduce new members to the site as it is a very useful resource.

As a final word the

importance of Karma is exemplified by Western Science in two new mathematical

models developed in the last ten years.

1: Within a limited

consciousness incarnated in a physical body, we have great difficulty

comprehending the ramifications of the smallest action committed.

THIS IS CALLED ‘CHAOS

THEORY’!

2: We have difficulty comprehending how

our actions are mirrored on multiple planes and replicated exactly on

microcosmic and macrocosmic dimensions.

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Exploring

Karma - Tales of a Universal Principle

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High in the reaches of Mount Kailasha is the abode of

Shiva, the Hindu god of destruction. One evening Vishnu, the god responsible

for preserving the cosmic order, came to see Shiva. He left behind at the

entrance Garuda, the half-man, half-eagle composite, who served as his

vehicle.

 

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Garuda sat alone, marveling at the natural splendor of the

place.

 

 

Suddenly his eyes fell on a beautiful creature, a little

bird

seated on the arch crowning the entrance to Shiva's place.

Garuda wondered aloud: " How marvelous is this creation! One who has

created these lofty mountains has also made this tiny bird – and both seem

equally wonderful. "

 

Just then Yama, the god of death who rides a buffalo, came

passing by with the intention of meeting Shiva. As he crossed the arch, his

eyes went over to the bird and he raised his brows in a quizzical expression.

Then he took his eyes off the bird and disappeared inside.

 

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Now, in the ancient thought of India, even a slight glance

of Yam is said to be the

harbinger of death. Garuda, who had observed Yama's action, told himself,

" Yama looking intently at the bird can mean only one thing - the bird's

time is up. Perhaps on his way back he will carry away the bird's soul with

him. "

 

Garuda's heart was filled with pity for the helpless

creature.

That it was oblivious of its own impending doom further

agonized Garuda and he resolved to save the bird from the clutches of death.

He swooped it up in his mighty talons, rushed to a forest thousands of miles

away and left the bird on a rock beside a brook. Then he returned to Kailasha

and regained his position at the entrance gate.

 

Soon after, Yama emerged from inside, and nodded to Garuda

in recognition. Garuda greeted the god of death and said: " May I put a

question to you? While going in, you saw a bird and for a moment you became

pensive, why? "

 

Yama answered him thus: " Well, when my eyes fell on

the little bird, I saw that it was to die in a few minutes, swallowed by a

python, far away from here in a forest near a brook. I wondered how this tiny

creature would traverse the thousand of miles separating it from its destiny

in such a short time. Then I forgot. Surely it must have happened

somehow. "

 

Saying this, Yama smiled and went away. Did he know about

Garuda' s specific role in the matter? Nobody can know for sure. Garuda sat

perplexed, mulling over the surprising turn events had taken.

 

 

Karma, and its Consequences:

 

The word karma is derived from the Sanskrit root 'kri,'

meaning 'to do,' implying that all action is karma. Technically, the term

incorporates both an action and its consequence. Thus Garuda's karma

consisted of the act of carrying away the bird and also its consequent

snatching by the cruel hands of destiny. Hence, a deed, pure in its content,

led to an apparently unfavorable outcome. Through this subtle tale, we are

made to confront a dilemma which constantly recurs in our own lives, namely,

the relative impurity and purity of an action. Is an action to be deemed

positive or negative solely on the basis of the result it generates? Or, is

there some other criterion? Indeed there is.

 

What determines the nature of the karma is the will or

intention behind an act. As is mentioned in the Buddhist text Anguttara

Nikaya, published by the Pali Text Society, " It is will(chetana), that I

call karma; having willed, one acts through body, speech or mind. "

 

Indeed, an action is right or wrong as the motive is right

or wrong:

 

" One who acts with the best of intentions, does not

get the sin of the outward consequence of his action. " (Yoga Sikha). For

example, a doctor is not responsible for murder, if the operation per chance

ends in the death of his patient. In the above tale, Garuda's duty was not to

protect the bird, but rather to try and protect it.

 

" Even if a man does not succeed, he gets all the merit

of doing his duty, if he strives the utmost to his capacity. "

(Mahabharata: Udyoga Parva 93.6)

 

" Some undertakings succeed and others fail. That is

due to the divine order of things. If a man does his part of the work, no sin

touches him. " (Mahabharata: Santi Parva 24.30)

 

It is the psychological impulse behind an action that is

'karma,' that which sets going a chain of causes culminating in karmic

fruits. Actions then must be intentional if they are to generate karmic

fruits. This Buddhist belief is slightly at variance from that of the Jains,

and for the Buddhists, accidentally treading on an insect does not have such

an effect as the latter believe.

Thinking of doing some bad action is a bad karma, however,

especially when one gives energy to such a thought, rather than just letting

it pass. Deliberately putting down such a thought down is a good karma. In

the same vein regretting a past bad action, and resolving not to do it again

lessens its karmic result as it reduces the psychological impetus behind the

act.

 

One of the most significant instructional references to

karma comes from the Bhagavad Gita, which says:

 

" You have the right only to work, but not to the fruits

thereof. "

(2.47)

 

Significant here is the fact that we are entitled only to

act,

and have 'no right' over the ensuing results. This profound

assertion is not mere discourse, but rather loaded with

sound practical advice, which can act as a sensible strategy for whatever we

set out to achieve. This is because the outcome of any enterprise is not

solely dependent on our individual efforts but is bound to numerous other

factors over which we may or may not have influence. Thus why worry over

something on which we do not have control? Also, detaching ourselves from the

burden of anxiety over the impending result frees us from mental stress, and

enables us to devote ourselves with calm concentration to the matter at hand.

 

Mill has very forcibly pointed out that the best way of

getting happiness is to forget it: " The conscious ability to do without

happiness gives the best prospect of realizing such

happiness as is attainable. "

 

 

The Question of Good versus Evil:

 

In medieval China there once lived an old farmer, who had a

weak, ailing horse for ploughing his field. One day, the sickly horse ran

away to the hills.

 

The farmer's neighbors offered their sympathy to him:

" Such rotten luck! " they exclaimed.

 

" Bad luck? Good luck? Who knows? " mused the

farmer.

 

A week later, the old horse returned, bringing with it a

herd of wild horses from the hills. This time, the neighbors swarmed around

the farmer and congratulated him on his good luck. His reply however was the

same: " Good luck? Bad luck? Who can tell? "

 

Sometime later, while trying to tame one of the wild

horses, the farmer's only son fell off its back and broke his leg. Everyone

thought this was bad luck. " Bad luck? Good luck? I don't know, "

said the farmer.

 

A few weeks later, the king's army marched into the village

and conscripted every able-bodied young man living there. The farmer's son,

who was laid up with a broken leg was let off, for he was thought to be of no

use to them.

 

Now what was this? Good luck or bad luck? Who can tell?

 

Things that seem adverse on the surface may actually be

good in disguise. And something that seems to be attractive and 'lucky' may

actually be harmful to our best interests. The learned ones often leave it to

a higher power beyond the material world to decide what is best for them.

 

Good and evil are not constant - they change according to

time and circumstance. For example, an arrow is good if it penetrates its

object; an armor is good if it is impenetrable by an arrow.

 

In the heat of summer, coolness is good; while in winter,

heat is beneficial According to Zen, saying that what is evil includes the

good is not to assert that there is no difference between evil and good, just

that the traditional dualisms need to be replaced with an understanding of

the unity of being.

 

According to

Zen master Suzuki: " All forms of evil must be said somehow to be

embodying what is true and good and beautiful, and to contribution to the

perfection of Reality. To state it more concretely, bad is good, ugly is

beautiful, false is true, imperfect is perfect, and also conversely. This is,

indeed, the kind of reasoning in which indulge who conceive the God-nature to

be immanent in all things. "

 

Kahlil Gibran puts it thus:

 

The selfsame well from which your laughter rises was

oftentimes filled with your tears.

 

And how else can it be?

 

The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy

you can contain.

 

Is not the cup that holds your wine the very cup that was

burned in the potter's oven?

 

And is not the lute that soothes your spirit the very wood

that was hollowed with knives?

 

When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you

shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy.

 

Some of you say, " joy is greater than sorrow, "

and others say, " Nay sorrow is the greater. "

 

But I say unto you, they are inseparable. Together they

come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other

is asleep upon your bed.

 

You cannot separate the just from the unjust and the

good from the

wicked;

 

For they stand together before the face of the sun even as

the black thread and the white are woven together.

 

And when the black thread breaks, the weaver shall look

into the whole cloth, and he shall examine the loom also.

 

Verily all things move within your being in constant half

embrace, the desired and the dreaded, the repugnant and the

cherished, the pursued and that which you would escape.

 

These things move within you as lights and shadows in pairs

that cling.

 

And could you keep your heart in wonder at the daily

miracles of your life, your pain would not seem less wondrous than your joy.

 

You would know the secret of death. But how shall you find

it unless you seek it in the heart of life?

 

If you would indeed behold the spirit of death, open your

heart wide unto the body of life. For life and death are one, even as the

river and the sea are one.

 

We read in the Bhagavad Gita again and again that we must

all work incessantly. There it is also mentioned that all work by nature is

composed of good and evil. We cannot do any work that will not do some good

somewhere and indeed there cannot be any action that will be free of any

harmful residue. Every work is thus necessarily a mixture of good and evil;

yet we are commanded to work incessantly.

 

Swami Vivekananda puts it succinctly:

 

" There is a thorn in my finger and I use another to

take the

first one out. When I have taken out the first, I throw

both of them aside; I have no necessity for keeping the second thorn because

both are thorns after all. So any negative tendencies plaguing our minds have

to be counteracted by the good ones. But what after that? Even the good

tendencies have now to be restrained. The idea is to renounce attachment to

any ideal - good or bad - and work, but let not the mind be unduly anxious

about the results. Let the ripples come and go, let huge actions proceed from

us, but let them not make a too-deep an impression on our souls. Work as if

we are a stranger in this land, a sojourner, this is the amount of detachment

that is required.

Doing the duty, which is ours at any particular time is the

best thing we can do in this world, and such a karma is our dharma.

Never will unhappiness or misery come through work done

without attachment. Work incessantly, but give up all attachment to work.

Do not identify yourself with anything. In the ocean we

cannot raise a wave without causing a hollow somewhere else. "

 

If we want the reward we must also have the punishment. The

only way to get out of the punishment is to give up the reward. The only way

of getting out of misery is by giving up the idea of happiness, because they

are but two sides of the same coin. On one side there is life and on the

other death. The only way to get beyond death is to give up the love of life.

Life and death are the same things looked at from different points. This ebb

and flow, this rising and falling, is the world's very nature. It would be as

logical to hold otherwise as to say that we may have life without death. Such

an assertion is unjustifiable, because the very idea of life implies death

and that of pleasure pain.

The lamp is constantly burning out, and that is its life.

If we want to have life we have to die every moment for it.

 

 

Emerson's Law of Compensation - Or Why

Welcome Hardships in Your Life?

 

After a grueling five days, you are looking forward to a

peaceful weekend. On Saturday night you set out with your loving wife seated

next to you and your adorable kids lodged comfortably in the back seat. The

family is all set to dine out in their favorite restaurant. You have been

starving yourself the whole day preparing for the impending feast. Suddenly,

the car starts swinging to one side and you realize that you have a flat.

Swearing, you get down and open the boot. Shockingly it

dawns upon you that the spare wheel too is punctured. Ruing your fate, you

realize that the much-awaited dinner is now not possible.

Then suddenly you compose yourself and thank god for the

small inconvenience he has subjected you to. Your family stares at you,

wide-eyed in astonishment.

 

There is a harmonious law of adjustment and compensation to

which all natural processes are subject. It plays a balancing role in our

lives. This is an order in which, according to Emerson, " Every excess

causes a defect, every defect an excess, and all seem governed by the deep

remedial force that underlies all facts. " Indeed, it all works out with

absolute exactness. Every sweet hath its sour, every evil its good. Every

faculty, which is a receiver of pleasure has an equal penalty put on it. As a

Danish proverb has it, " After pleasant scratching comes unpleasant

smarting. " Every advantage has its tax. For everything you gain, you

lose something, and for everything you have missed you gain something else.

 

Emerson's doctrine that every thing has its price - and

that it is impossible to get anything without paying a price for it – is not

less sublime in the columns of a ledger than in the budgets of states, in the

laws of light and darkness, in all the action and reaction of nature. Indeed,

punishment is a fruit that ripens unsuspected within the flower of pleasure,

which conceals it. If we escape one part we are tormented in another more

vital part.

Hence, let us all welcome the small trials, tribulations

and

discomforts which life offers us during our everyday

existence.

Totaled they will amount to much, and hence save us from

the single, more damaging stroke which nature would otherwise subject us to.

 

 

Manipulating Karma - Or How to Put God in

Our Debt

 

" There is a silent third party in all our bargains. If

you serve an ungrateful master, serve him the more. Put god in your debt.

Every stroke shall be repaid. The longer the payment is

withholden, the better for you; for compound interest on

compound interest is the rate and usage of this exchequer. " (Emerson)

 

Perhaps this is what Jesus Christ had in mind when he said:

" If any man take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also, "

(Matthew 5:40), because:

 

Woe to you that are rich, for you have received your

consolation.

Woe to you that are full now, for you will hunger.

Woe to you that laugh now, for you will mourn and weep.

Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for so did

their fathers to the false prophets. (Luke 6:24-26)

 

And further:

 

For whosoever exalts himself shall be humbled; and he that

humbles himself shall be exalted. (Luke 14:7-14)

 

 

Karma Yoga,

or Work as Worship

 

" Your daily life is your temple and your

religion. " (Kahlil Gibran)

 

" Our daily activity is the anvil on which all the

elements must pass and repass in order to be purified and refined. " (Sri

Aurobindo)

 

" Work done in the true spirit is meditation. "

(The Mother)

 

The word yoga is derived from the Sanskrit root 'yuj,'

meaning 'to yoke' or 'join'. Thus, yoga is the science that yokes 'the

finite' with 'the Infinite', or 'the finite spirit' with 'the Supreme

Spirit'. Connecting ourselves with the universal will through work is known

as Karma Yoga. Ancient scriptures call it the 'highest kind of yoga,'

 

Karma yoga is a means for seeking divinity in action and

life itself, and not in some far, beatific and abstract beyond. It is

therefore the discipline for finding and uniting with the divine through our

day-to-day actions, thoughts and works. Or it can be referred to as the way,

which confers to our ordinary human actions a divine status.

 

Truly, every act is sacred since we are not the doer but a

higher reality is acting through us. We intuitively understand that

everything comes from the divine and we have to offer it back to its source.

When we realize this, then even the smallest aspect of our lives to which we

usually do not pay any attention or care ceases to be trivial and

insignificant; it becomes full of

meaning and opens up a vast horizon beyond. According to

Aurobindo:

 

" What would you say if a temple, built according to

the design of some great artist, were to boast: " Admire my merits; am I

not beautiful, well-built, solid and durable? Truly I am worthy of all

praise! " - just as if it were the author of its own perfections. We

would find that very silly and ridiculous, and yet that is what we are doing

constantly. Because we do not perceive the labor of the Sublime Worker, we

ascribe the merit of the work to ourselves. "

 

Karma yoga is the consecration of one's life to the divine.

It is to work with the feeling that the divine force is working behind our

actions and leading us at every moment. Indeed, if we have succeeded, it was

probably because the divine forces were there to help us, otherwise we would

not have been able to achieve even what we have. We must not forget our limitations.

Man proposes, and some one else disposes.

 

When we look upon work as worship, we offer up all the

fruits of our work unto the divine. Our karma is offered as a sacred offering

to the highest reality. Truly, this is the reason why the goddess Kali wears

a girdle made up of severed hands; these signify the total sacrifice of the

fruits of their karma by her devotees, offered at her feet in worship.

 

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Understanding Karma - Towards an Ethical

Way of Life

 

" Trickery succeeds sometimes, but it always commits

suicide. "

(Kahlil Gibran)

 

The Dhammapada is one of the most sacred and best-loved of

Buddhist texts. It points out the method of self-realization, by the way of

moral conduct:

 

Like garlands woven from a heap of flowers,

Fashion from your life as many good deeds.

 

The text further enlightens on the nature of the karmic

fruit:

 

For while the fool's mischief

Tastes sweet, sweet as honey,

But in the end it turns bitter.

And how bitterly he suffers!

 

Fresh milk takes time to sour.

So a fool's mischief

Takes time to catch up with him.

Like the embers of a fire

It smolders within him.

 

A fool is happy

Until his mischief turns against him.

And a good man may suffer

Until his goodness flowers.

 

But as dirt thrown against the wind,

Mischief is blown back in the face

Of the fool who wrongs the pure and harmless.

 

Nowhere!

Not in the sky,

Nor in the midst of the sea,

Nor deep in the mountains,

Can you hide from your own mischief.

 

Never speak harsh words

For they will rebound upon you.

Angry words hurt

And the hurt rebounds.

 

But the fool in his mischief forgets

And he lights the fire

Where in one day he must burn.

 

He who harms the harmless

Or hurts the innocent,

Ten times shall he fall

Into torment or infirmity,

Injury or disease or madness,

Persecution or fearful accusation,

Loss of family, loss of fortune.

 

Wilfully you have fed

Your own mischief.

Soon it will crush you

As the diamond crushes stone.

 

As iron is corroded by rust

Your own mischief will consume you.

 

If you kill, lie or steal,

Commit adultery or drink,

You dig up your own roots.

 

You are the source of all purity and impurity.

 

What you give to him

Will be given back to you,

And more.

 

For whatever you do, you do to yourself.

 

Finally there is what is known as the Golden Rule where

Confucius argues that the central principle of ethics is not to do what you

would not want to have done to yourself:

 

'Tzu-kung asked, " Is there one word which may serve as

a rule of practice for all one's life? " The Master said, " Is not

reciprocity such a word? What you do not want done to

yourself, do not do to others. " '

 

The Bible too guides us to right action:

 

" All things whatsoever you would that men should do to

you, do even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. " (Matthew

7:12)

 

We are responsible for what we are; and whatever we wish

ourselves to be we have the power to make ourselves. If

what we are now has been the result of our own past actions, it certainly

follows that whatever we wish to be in future can be produced by our present

actions; so we have to know how to act. Why should we do good to the world?

Apparently to help the world, but really to help ourselves.

 

According to the law of karma, the action one has done

cannot be destroyed until it has borne its fruit; no power in nature can stop

it from yielding its result. If I do an evil action, I must suffer from it.

Similarly, if I do a good action, it is bound to bear good results. Can there

be a higher motivation for an ethical existence on this planet?

 

Indeed, the law of karma is the best motivation we can have

for right thinking, right action and right living. Karma however, is not

god's code of punishment. It is not passive or defeatist.

Rather, it puts men and women at the center of

responsibility for all that they do and all that is done to them. Thus is it

rightly said:

 

Watch your thoughts, for they become words.

Watch your words, for they become actions.

Watch your actions, for they become habits.

Watch your habits, for they become character.

Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.

 

Nature's dispensation is simple. Each of us has been given

a field of life. We are free to sow whatever we want in this field, which is

our karma-kshetra. In other words, we must eat the fruits of our own harvest.

This is identical with the biblical idea that " Whatsoever a man soweth,

that shall he also reap. "

(Galatians 6:7)

 

Many of us usually equate karma with evil and sin. This is

probably because we become aware of karma only when we are

hard-pressed with difficulties, taking for granted all good things in our

lives. The fact however remains that: " Men are not punished for their

sins, but by them. " (Elbert Hubbard)

 

Understanding karma is getting to know the knowledge of the

secret of work. We see that the whole universe is working and is perpetually

in a state of dynamic flux. Why? Because it is the only way in which we can

justify our existence and residence on this earth, and go on actively

creating and fashioning our lives.

According to Vivekananda: " The world is a grand moral

gymnasium wherein we have all to take exercise so as to become stronger and

stronger spiritually. "

 

Put in the

immortal words of Kahlil Gibran:

 

" You work that you may keep pace with the earth and

the soul of

the earth.

 

For to be idle is to become a stranger unto the seasons,

and to

step out of life's procession that marches in majesty and

proud

submission towards the infinite. "

 

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This article by Nitin Kumar.

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References and Further Reading:

 

Audi, Robert. The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy:

Cambridge,

2001.

 

Byrom, Thomas. The Dhammapada: London, 1979.

 

Chatterjee, Jatindra Mohan. Panchadasigita: New Delhi,

1998.

 

Chopra, Deepak. The Seven Spiritual laws of Success: New

Delhi,

2000.

 

Elbaum, Susan. The Kammas we Create: Bangalore.

 

Gibran, Kahlil. Complete Works of Kahlil Gibran: New Delhi,

2003.

 

Gideons International. The Holy Bible: Tennessee, 1978.

 

Hanson, V; S. Nicholson and R. Stewart. Karma Rhythmic

Return to

Harmony: Delhi, 2001.

 

Harvey, Peter. An Introduction to Buddhism: New Delhi,

2004.

 

Hiriyanna, M. The Essentials of Indian Philosophy: Delhi,

2000.

 

Leaman, Oliver. Eastern Philosophy Key Readings: New Delhi,

2004.

 

Leaman, Oliver. Key Concepts in Eastern Philosophy: New

Delhi,

2004.

 

Mehra, Ameeta (compiler). Karmayoga Perfection in Work

(Selections from the works of Sri Aurobindo and the

Mother): New

Delhi, 2000.

 

Parrinder, Geoffrey (compiler). The Wisdom of Jesus:

Oxford,

2000.

 

Radhakrishnan, S. The Bhagavadgita: New Delhi, 2004.

 

Satwalekar, Shripad Damodar: Commentary on the Bhagavad

Gita (4

vols. in Hindi): Valsad (Gujarat), 1998.

 

Shrimad Bhagavad Gita with Word Index and Shankara's

Commentary

(Hindi): Gita Press, Gorakhpur.

 

Vaswani, J.P. What You Would Like to Know About Karma: New

Delhi,

2004.

 

 

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