Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 DEAR FREIND ALL FAKIRS DO NOT PERFOM FOR MONEY. SECONDLY THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN TAKING MONEY THIS MISCONCEPTION HAS BEEN CREATED BY GURUS WHO HAVE CREATED MASSIVE EMPIRES AND WANT OTHERS TO GIVE AWAY THE MONEY. HOW WILL ONE SURVIVE IF MONEY IS NOT CHARGED. DURING OLD TIMES STATE \ KING USED TO TAKE CARE OF GURUS \YOGIS \ FAKIRS WHICH IS NOT PREVALENT NOW. ONLY THING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF SHOULD BE THAT MONEY IS GIVEN WITH LOVE NOT CHEATED AWAY OR TAKEN FORCEFULLY(LIKE RAPE) AND ALSO SHOULD NOT BE AQUIRED BY WRONGFUL MEANS WHICH IS AGAIN DEBATABLE ISSUE. BECAUSE EVERY COUNTRY, RELIGION, CULTURE HAS DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF WRONGFUL MEANS VIJAY TIWARIAntonio Sausys <antonio wrote: Dear Milos, Yoga means Unity; that what is inseparably united is 'the Whole', not the whole-less: the fakirs who do it for money, the ones who have the money, the ones who don't prove what they say they believe in, the ones who practice Yoga and are not Hindus, the ones who believe that Yoga and Sports relate to each other... maybe that's the problem, Yoga is not about the other 'ones', but about 'everyone' Otherwise, what's the Whole without one part...? Antonio. - Milos Buchacek Friday, February 25, 2005 8:10 AM RE: Om I of course mean those fakirs who perform on stages for money - they are not without desires.It has been said a yogi should never show any siddhis he might acquire on public.If Yoga is mainly a way of life as Dr.Swami Gitananda said then these fakirs should never be considered yogis.And if they are considered yogis then there is a little surprise why Western Civilization looks in Yoga for Siddhis,robust health etc...yoga is not about any of these things. Milos vijay tiwari <vijaytiwariji wrote: DEAR FREIND FAQIR IS ALSO YOGI YOGA HAS MUCH DEEPER MEANING, YOGI IS A PERSON WHO IS ABOVE DESIRES AND SECONDLY NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A YOGI , HE BECOMES ONE WITH GOD VIJAY TIWARI Milos Buchacek <yogaveda_mb wrote: Dear Sangeed Ji, I do apologize if my reply to you looked just like you said.It was not intended that way.It was just a part of a discussion and I felt I had to say something because it seemed to me that you had misunderstood a "desire for ungrounding of westerners" as their approach to Yoga. It was not explained yet what exactly that "ungrounding" in connection with Yoga really means.It is true that westerners are looking for psychic experiences or to "get high" and don't hesitate to take drugs to achieve it.But I don't think the majority of them approach the Yoga for the same purpose.The problem is a lot of them don't know what yoga really is and they substitute fakirs for yogis.But I believe if properly educated they would also look for spirituality in Yoga the same way Indians do. Warm regards, Milos Sangeet Bird <sbird39 wrote: Namaskar Milos Ji, Whoops what a hornets nest i've stirred up with my reply! I'm Indian, live in the uk and hear a great deal of strange stuff about india, indians and yoga in general so am not speaking about all the americans you enlist. Sometimes i struggle to understand their mindset. Anything to help me understand them is helpful. Nevertheless everything said so far has made me think deeper about Om and that can be no bad thing. Thank you all. Sangeet ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! "Health and Happiness are your birthright, claim them through Rishiculture Ashtanga Yoga" -Yogamaharishi Dr Swami Gitananda Giri The all-new My – What will yours do? "Health and Happiness are your birthright, claim them through Rishiculture Ashtanga Yoga" -Yogamaharishi Dr Swami Gitananda Giri India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. "Health and Happiness are your birthright, claim them through Rishiculture Ashtanga Yoga" -Yogamaharishi Dr Swami Gitananda Giri Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. "Health and Happiness are your birthright, claim them through Rishiculture Ashtanga Yoga" -Yogamaharishi Dr Swami Gitananda Giri "Health and Happiness are your birthright, claim them through Rishiculture Ashtanga Yoga" -Yogamaharishi Dr Swami Gitananda Giri India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Dearest Vijay Well said indeed! OM Shanti. Devidasan. vijay tiwari wrote: > DEAR FREIND > ALL FAKIRS DO NOT PERFOM FOR MONEY. > SECONDLY THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN TAKING MONEY THIS MISCONCEPTION HAS > BEEN CREATED BY GURUS WHO HAVE CREATED MASSIVE EMPIRES AND WANT OTHERS > TO GIVE AWAY THE MONEY. HOW WILL ONE SURVIVE IF MONEY IS NOT CHARGED. > DURING OLD TIMES STATE \ KING USED TO TAKE CARE OF GURUS \YOGIS \ > FAKIRS WHICH IS NOT PREVALENT NOW. > ONLY THING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF SHOULD BE THAT MONEY IS GIVEN WITH LOVE > NOT CHEATED AWAY OR TAKEN FORCEFULLY(LIKE RAPE) AND ALSO SHOULD NOT BE > AQUIRED BY WRONGFUL MEANS WHICH IS AGAIN DEBATABLE ISSUE. BECAUSE > EVERY COUNTRY, RELIGION, CULTURE HAS DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF WRONGFUL > MEANS > VIJAY TIWARI > > */Antonio Sausys <antonio/* wrote: > > Dear Milos, > Yoga means Unity; that what is inseparably united is 'the Whole', > not the whole-less: the fakirs who do it for money, > the ones who have the money, > the ones who don't prove what they say they believe in, > the ones who practice Yoga and are not Hindus, > the ones who believe that Yoga and Sports relate to each other... > maybe that's the problem, Yoga is not about the other 'ones', but > about 'everyone' > Otherwise, what's the Whole without one part...? > Antonio. > > - > ** Milos Buchacek <yogaveda_mb > *To:* > > *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2005 8:10 AM > *Subject:* RE: Om > > I of course mean those fakirs who perform on stages for money > - they are not without desires.It has been said a yogi should > never show any siddhis he might acquire on public.If Yoga is > mainly a way of life as Dr.Swami Gitananda said then these > fakirs should never be considered yogis.And if they are > considered yogis then there is a little surprise why Western > Civilization looks in Yoga for Siddhis,robust health > etc...yoga is not about any of these things. > Milos > > */vijay tiwari <vijaytiwariji/* wrote: > > DEAR FREIND > FAQIR IS ALSO YOGI > YOGA HAS MUCH DEEPER MEANING, YOGI IS A PERSON WHO IS > ABOVE DESIRES AND SECONDLY NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A > YOGI , HE BECOMES ONE WITH GOD > VIJAY TIWARI > > */Milos Buchacek <yogaveda_mb/* wrote: > > Dear Sangeed Ji, > I do apologize if my reply to you looked just like you > said.It was not intended that way.It was just a part > of a discussion and I felt I had to say something > because it seemed to me that you had misunderstood a > " desire for ungrounding of westerners " as their > approach to Yoga. > It was not explained yet what exactly that > " ungrounding " in connection with Yoga really means.It > is true that westerners are looking for psychic > experiences or to " get high " and don't hesitate to > take drugs to achieve it.But I don't think the > majority of them approach the Yoga for the same > purpose.The problem is a lot of them don't know what > yoga really is and they substitute fakirs for > yogis.But I believe if properly educated they would > also look for spirituality in Yoga the same way > Indians do. > Warm regards, > Milos > > */Sangeet Bird <sbird39/* wrote: > > Namaskar Milos Ji, > Whoops what a hornets nest i've stirred up with my > reply! > I'm Indian, live in the uk and hear a great deal > of strange stuff about india, indians and yoga in > general so am not speaking about all the americans > you enlist. Sometimes i struggle to understand > their mindset. 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