Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 divine self, you can be a vegetarian taking only plant products such as cerials, pulses, fruits, exfoliated leaves FLOWERS of banana plant or small branches without cutting the tree,sparing its life. The Mother of Aurobindo ashram, out of compassion for the plants would pray and ask in her garden which would have no objections before taking the leaves from a particular plant. Nonvegeterians practicing meditation would find a LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE EFFORTS YOU need TO PUT IN when you take to simple vegeterian food(excluding dairy products also). When you observe the plants and communicate with them ,itis a totally different world to experience. How i wish you were there to listen to Swami GITANANDA ON THIS SUBJECT. narasimhan -- Christoph Eberhard <christoph_natyam wrote: Hello !!! I do not know why you are a vegetarian. In my case, my body just started not to like meat anymore, as it did also with other foods like coffee, some sorts of cheese etc. I must say that after I also felt happy to be able to look my animal friends straight in the eyes without afterthought ... but I must admit that I could not have managed to stop eating meat just based on the ethical or moral ground. And I must say that although I feel now also morally happy, basically my vegetariansim is rooted in the fact that my bodies feels more happy with this diet. For the anecdote : when I stopped eating meat, when I had dinner with my friends I told them " we just have to look for also some food not containing meat, I don't eat meat " . They would ask : " are you a vegetarian ? " And I would answer : " no, it is just that I do not eat meat " . I did not identify with a particular philosophy or whatever. It took me a year to just think " well, in fact yes, I am not eating meat so I am a vegetarian " . So, that is what I tell friends or other people who are intrigued. It is very simple. Also I am not telling them to also become vegetarian. So usually they just accept it like that. And they understand that you may have a different diet. Some people have different allergies and also cannot eat just anything they would like to. It seems that in the last years there is even wider and wider support for a vegetarian diet, due to the " mad cow " and other diseases and also because people start to get more aware of the bad effects of the overconsumption of meet. And I feel that some people are really just curious with their questions. Even their remarks sometimes just reveals their puzzlement or their interest in the subject. So if you just answer them simply and honestly they often accept what you say. What may be tricky is if you feel agressed by the question and if you feel that you must defend your point of view, or vegetarianism ... then it may become a big debate or even a fight ... To me it really seems, and this holds true not only for being vegetarian, but for many other " strange " or " alternative " behaviour " one may have, that the easiest thing is just to be simple and honest about it and receive people's comments with an attitude of dialogue. If the other person is really just interested he/she will be happy with your testimony. And you may be interested to learn about his/her pereceptions. If he/she just wants to argue, well you do not have to enter the argument. Plenty of good energies from Paris !!! Christoph --- Nova Scheidt <nova_scheidt a écrit : Hey there, I find that as a vegetarian, I am bombarded with questions about my vegetarianism. How do other folks respond to the question of: Well, you don't eat meat because it is a flesh of an animal (a living being)...Isn't a plant a living being...Aren't you killing a plant to eat? ---Nova Message: 2 Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:29:27 -0700 (PDT) " Yogacharya Dr.Ananda Bhavanani " <yognat2001 Fwd: Tirukural Installment 26 GURUDEVA <gurudeva-kural wrote: gurudeva-kural (GURUDEVA) Tirukural Installment 26 Chapter 26 -- Abstaining from Eating Meat KURAL 251 How can he practice true compassion who eats the flesh of an animal to fatten his own flesh? KURAL 252 Riches cannot be found in the hands of the thriftless, nor can compassion be found in the hearts of those who eat meat. KURAL 253 He who feasts on a creature's flesh is like he who wields a weapon. Goodness is never one with the minds of these two. KURAL 254 If you ask, " What is kindness and what is unkindness? " It is not-killing and killing. Thus, eating flesh is never virtuous. KURAL 255 Life is perpetuated by not eating meat. The jaws of Hell close on those who do. KURAL 256 If the world did not purchase and consume meat, no one would slaughter and offer meat for sale. KURAL 257 When a man realizes that meat is the butchered flesh of another creature, he will abstain from eating it. KURAL 258 Insightful souls who have abandoned the passion to hurt others will not feed on flesh that life has abandoned. KURAL 259 Greater than a thousand ghee offerings consumed in sacrificial fires is to not sacrifice and consume any living creature. KURAL 260 All life will press palms together in prayerful adoration of those who refuse to slaughter or savor meat. ~~~~~~~~~ To send an empty message, with any subject header, to gurudeva-kural- Then just " reply " to the confirmation request and you will be d. ~~~~~~~~~ Forward the Kurals to a friend! To they may write to gurudeva-kural- Everyone is welcome. ~~~~~~~~~ " Health and Happiness are your birthright, claim them through Rishiculture Ashtanga Yoga " -Yogamaharishi Dr Swami Gitananda Giri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 divine self, you can be a vegetarian taking only plant products such as cerials, pulses, fruits, exfoliated leaves FLOWERS of banana plant or small branches without cutting the tree,sparing its life. The Mother of Aurobindo ashram, out of compassion for the plants would pray and ask in her garden which would have no objections before taking the leaves from a particular plant. Nonvegeterians practicing meditation would find a LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE EFFORTS YOU need TO PUT IN when you take to simple vegeterian food(excluding dairy products also). When you observe the plants and communicate with them ,itis a totally different world to experience. How i wish you were there to listen to Swami GITANANDA ON THIS SUBJECT. narasimhan -- Christoph Eberhard <christoph_natyam wrote: Hello !!! I do not know why you are a vegetarian. In my case, my body just started not to like meat anymore, as it did also with other foods like coffee, some sorts of cheese etc. I must say that after I also felt happy to be able to look my animal friends straight in the eyes without afterthought ... but I must admit that I could not have managed to stop eating meat just based on the ethical or moral ground. And I must say that although I feel now also morally happy, basically my vegetariansim is rooted in the fact that my bodies feels more happy with this diet. For the anecdote : when I stopped eating meat, when I had dinner with my friends I told them " we just have to look for also some food not containing meat, I don't eat meat " . They would ask : " are you a vegetarian ? " And I would answer : " no, it is just that I do not eat meat " . I did not identify with a particular philosophy or whatever. It took me a year to just think " well, in fact yes, I am not eating meat so I am a vegetarian " . So, that is what I tell friends or other people who are intrigued. It is very simple. Also I am not telling them to also become vegetarian. So usually they just accept it like that. And they understand that you may have a different diet. Some people have different allergies and also cannot eat just anything they would like to. It seems that in the last years there is even wider and wider support for a vegetarian diet, due to the " mad cow " and other diseases and also because people start to get more aware of the bad effects of the overconsumption of meet. And I feel that some people are really just curious with their questions. Even their remarks sometimes just reveals their puzzlement or their interest in the subject. So if you just answer them simply and honestly they often accept what you say. What may be tricky is if you feel agressed by the question and if you feel that you must defend your point of view, or vegetarianism ... then it may become a big debate or even a fight ... To me it really seems, and this holds true not only for being vegetarian, but for many other " strange " or " alternative " behaviour " one may have, that the easiest thing is just to be simple and honest about it and receive people's comments with an attitude of dialogue. If the other person is really just interested he/she will be happy with your testimony. And you may be interested to learn about his/her pereceptions. If he/she just wants to argue, well you do not have to enter the argument. Plenty of good energies from Paris !!! Christoph --- Nova Scheidt <nova_scheidt a écrit : Hey there, I find that as a vegetarian, I am bombarded with questions about my vegetarianism. How do other folks respond to the question of: Well, you don't eat meat because it is a flesh of an animal (a living being)...Isn't a plant a living being...Aren't you killing a plant to eat? ---Nova Message: 2 Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:29:27 -0700 (PDT) " Yogacharya Dr.Ananda Bhavanani " <yognat2001 Fwd: Tirukural Installment 26 GURUDEVA <gurudeva-kural wrote: gurudeva-kural (GURUDEVA) Tirukural Installment 26 Chapter 26 -- Abstaining from Eating Meat KURAL 251 How can he practice true compassion who eats the flesh of an animal to fatten his own flesh? KURAL 252 Riches cannot be found in the hands of the thriftless, nor can compassion be found in the hearts of those who eat meat. KURAL 253 He who feasts on a creature's flesh is like he who wields a weapon. Goodness is never one with the minds of these two. KURAL 254 If you ask, " What is kindness and what is unkindness? " It is not-killing and killing. Thus, eating flesh is never virtuous. KURAL 255 Life is perpetuated by not eating meat. The jaws of Hell close on those who do. KURAL 256 If the world did not purchase and consume meat, no one would slaughter and offer meat for sale. KURAL 257 When a man realizes that meat is the butchered flesh of another creature, he will abstain from eating it. KURAL 258 Insightful souls who have abandoned the passion to hurt others will not feed on flesh that life has abandoned. KURAL 259 Greater than a thousand ghee offerings consumed in sacrificial fires is to not sacrifice and consume any living creature. KURAL 260 All life will press palms together in prayerful adoration of those who refuse to slaughter or savor meat. ~~~~~~~~~ To send an empty message, with any subject header, to gurudeva-kural- Then just " reply " to the confirmation request and you will be d. ~~~~~~~~~ Forward the Kurals to a friend! To they may write to gurudeva-kural- Everyone is welcome. ~~~~~~~~~ " Health and Happiness are your birthright, claim them through Rishiculture Ashtanga Yoga " -Yogamaharishi Dr Swami Gitananda Giri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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