Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Lesson 1 (Vedas)What are the Vedas?Veda means knowledge. It originates from the word "vit" which means knowledge.The original knowledge in this creation is the teachings of the Vedas. These teachings were revealed by Lord Vishnu to Lord Brahma in his heart. When we are in a conditioned state (that is what we are) our knowledge is subjected to many deficiencies. These deficiencies are there because the conditioned soul has four defects:a. Committing mistakes: Human being is prone to making mistakes. You must have read or heard the famous saying, "To err is human". b. Subject to illusion: We are all subject to illusion (maya). It means that we perceive or see things which they are not. The meaning of maya is "that which is not". c. Imperfect senses: Our senses are imperfect. We cannot see beyond some distance, we cannot hear everything and so on.d. Cheating propensity : We have a tendency to cheat. It is difficult to accept this for us but if you sincerely think about it you will agree that we tend to cheat at least in minor ways - don't we?These deficiencies make us unfit for having perfect knowledge. An imperfect being cannot create a perfect knowledge. Look at American or Indian constitutions - how many amendments have taken place since they were written? In contrast Vedas are apaurusheya, which means they are not compilations of human knowledge, compiled by some humans. Vedic knowledge comes from the spiritual world, from Lord Krishna (Vishnu), the Supreme God. It has remained unchanged since time immemorial. No person has ever been able to find a single mistake in the script of Vedas. And that is why we accept them as authorities. It is better to follow something which is perfect rather than something which is prone to mistakes or imperfection. In the beginning the first living creature was Brahma. He received the Vedic knowledge from Lord Vishnu. The existence of Vedas is Sanatana - eternal - no beginning or end.Vedas are compared to desire tree (kalpa vriksha) because they contain all things knowable by man. They deal with day-to-day material necessities as well as spiritual realization. The main purpose of Vedas is to gradually elevate human beings to a spiritual platform. This is recommended through the system of Varna & Ashrama. Vedas talk of 4 varnas and 4 ashramas. The varnas are Brahmana - the intellectual, Kshatriya - the ruler and administrators, Vaishya - the farmer and merchants and Shudra - the worker. The ashramas are Brahmacharya - students, Grihastha - family men, Vanaprashtha - retired people and Sannyasa - mendicants). These are based on one's quality and work and not a caste system as it prevails in the society. The caste system is perversion of the Varnashrama system as propogated in Vedas. Lord Krishna confirms this in Bhagavad Gita.The Vedas say that the highest spiritual realization is knowledge that the Supreme Lord is the reservoir of all pleasures, spiritual tastes. The Vedas were compiled in Sanskrit which is the most advanced and perfect language and source of all languages. The Vedas are source of all knowledge. There is no independent knowledge beyond Vedas. The Origin of the Vedas When discussing the origin of the Vedas, we must keep in mind the fact that the Vedas are eternal transcendental sound vibrations. Therefore we cannot use the word create in its general usage to describe the source of the Vedas. At the same time everything has a cause except for the Lord. That is the meaning of the verse anadir adir govindah, sarva kaarana kaaranam, "Govinda has no beginning, yet He is the beginning of all. He is the cause of all causes." When speaking of the spiritual realm, we must always remember that there is no limitation of time. Time practically does not exist in that realm. Only when you come down to the level of creation of the material world can we actually say that time is acting on anything. So any discussion of something constitutionally beyond the realm of material world is by nature free from the influence of time. Therefore there is no room to bring in the idea of a point of creation. With that in mind, when we speak of something spiritual such as the Vedas, we can never bring in the concept of a point of creation. i.e. "it was created at this point in time". Therefore nothing spiritual was ever created in the general sense of the word. But still everything has a source, something on which it is dependent. Vishnu is the only sva-tantra (self- dependent principal) and all others are para-tantra (dependent on another). Everything has a cause, and that cause is directly the category of the Supreme God. But this dependence is eternal dependence. Never was there a time when it did not exist. So, though Vishnu is the cause of everything, everything eternally existed beyond time. One may ask, "How to understand this?" If you don't already understand it there is no mental gymnastics that will make you understand it. The Srimad Bhagavatam clearly states right in the first shloka: om namo bhagavate vasudevaaya janmaadyasya yato 'nvayad itartash charthesv abhijnah svarat tene brahma hrda ya aadi kavaye. (Translation : O my Lord, Sri Krishna, son of Vasudeva, O all pervading Supreme Person, I offer my respects to you. I meditate upon you because you are the absolute truth and the primeval cause of all causes of the creation.) Why the statement "tene brahma hrda ya aadi kavaye" is linked directly to the statement of janmadyasya yatah? Because everything is an emanation of Krishna, including the eternal spiritual sound vibrations (brahma) of the Vedas. Furthermore, we should remember that the Vedas are describing Him, the Supreme God. The Vedas are also called Shruti - learning by only hearing. In the earlier yugas the vedic knowledge was passed on from guru to disciple by just recitation and hearing. In this age of Kali (kali-yuga) our memories are comapratively duller and hence for our benefit the Vedas were compiled in written form. There are many suggestions about the exact time they were compiled but they still remain the oldest scriptures in this world. Find out what India is talking about on Answers India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Thanks for the good information Mr Tiwari. Looking forward to Lesson Two. Dave. , vijay tiwari <vijaytiwariji wrote: > > Lesson 1 (Vedas) > > What are the Vedas? > > Veda means knowledge. It originates from the word " vit " which means knowledge. > > The original knowledge in this creation is the teachings of the Vedas. These teachings were revealed by Lord Vishnu to Lord Brahma in his heart. > > When we are in a conditioned state (that is what we are) our knowledge is subjected to many deficiencies. These deficiencies are there because the conditioned soul has four defects: > > a. Committing mistakes: Human being is prone to making mistakes. You must have read or heard the famous saying, " To err is human " . > > b. Subject to illusion: We are all subject to illusion (maya). It means that we perceive or see things which they are not. The meaning of maya is " that which is not " . > > c. Imperfect senses: Our senses are imperfect. We cannot see beyond some distance, we cannot hear everything and so on. > > d. Cheating propensity : We have a tendency to cheat. It is difficult to accept this for us but if you sincerely think about it you will agree that we tend to cheat at least in minor ways - don't we? > > These deficiencies make us unfit for having perfect knowledge. An imperfect being cannot create a perfect knowledge. Look at American or Indian constitutions - how many amendments have taken place since they were written? > In contrast Vedas are apaurusheya, which means they are not compilations of human knowledge, compiled by some humans. Vedic knowledge comes from the spiritual world, from Lord Krishna (Vishnu), the Supreme God. It has remained unchanged since time immemorial. No person has ever been able to find a single mistake in the script of Vedas. And that is why we accept them as authorities. It is better to follow something which is perfect rather than something which is prone to mistakes or imperfection. > > In the beginning the first living creature was Brahma. He received the Vedic knowledge from Lord Vishnu. The existence of Vedas is Sanatana - eternal - no beginning or end. > > Vedas are compared to desire tree (kalpa vriksha) because they contain all things knowable by man. They deal with day-to-day material necessities as well as spiritual realization. > > The main purpose of Vedas is to gradually elevate human beings to a spiritual platform. This is recommended through the system of Varna & Ashrama. > > Vedas talk of 4 varnas and 4 ashramas. > > The varnas are Brahmana - the intellectual, Kshatriya - the ruler and administrators, Vaishya - the farmer and merchants and Shudra - the worker. The ashramas are Brahmacharya - students, Grihastha - family men, Vanaprashtha - retired people and Sannyasa - mendicants). These are based on one's quality and work and not a caste system as it prevails in the society. The caste system is perversion of the Varnashrama system as propogated in Vedas. Lord Krishna confirms this in Bhagavad Gita. > > The Vedas say that the highest spiritual realization is knowledge that the Supreme Lord is the reservoir of all pleasures, spiritual tastes. > > The Vedas were compiled in Sanskrit which is the most advanced and perfect language and source of all languages. > > The Vedas are source of all knowledge. There is no independent knowledge beyond Vedas. > > The Origin of the Vedas > When discussing the origin of the Vedas, we must keep in mind the fact that the Vedas are eternal transcendental sound vibrations. Therefore we cannot use the word create in its general usage to describe the source of the > Vedas. At the same time everything has a cause except for the Lord. That is the meaning of the verse anadir adir govindah, sarva kaarana kaaranam, " Govinda has no beginning, yet He is the beginning of all. > He is the cause of all causes. " When speaking of the spiritual realm, we must always remember that there is no limitation of time. Time practically does not exist in that realm. Only when you come down to the level of creation of the material world can we > actually say that time is acting on anything. So any discussion of something constitutionally beyond the realm of material world is by nature free from the influence of time. Therefore there is no room to bring in the idea of a point of creation. With that in mind, when we speak of something spiritual such as the Vedas, we can never bring in the concept of a point of creation. i.e. " it was created at this point in time " . > Therefore nothing spiritual was ever created in the general sense of the word. But still everything has a source, something on which it is dependent. Vishnu is the only sva-tantra (self- dependent principal) and all others > are para-tantra (dependent on another). > Everything has a cause, and that cause is directly the category of the Supreme God. But this dependence is eternal dependence. Never was there a time when it did not exist. So, though Vishnu is the cause of everything, > everything eternally existed beyond time. > One may ask, " How to understand this? " If you don't already understand it there is no mental gymnastics that will make you understand it. > The Srimad Bhagavatam clearly states right in the first shloka: om namo bhagavate vasudevaaya janmaadyasya yato 'nvayad itartash charthesv abhijnah svarat tene brahma hrda ya aadi kavaye. (Translation : O my Lord, Sri Krishna, son of Vasudeva, O all pervading Supreme Person, I offer my respects to you. I meditate upon you because you are the absolute truth and the primeval cause of all causes of the creation.) > Why the statement " tene brahma hrda ya aadi kavaye " is linked directly to the statement of janmadyasya yatah? Because everything is an emanation of Krishna, including the eternal spiritual sound vibrations (brahma) of the Vedas. Furthermore, we should remember that the Vedas are describing Him, the Supreme God. > The Vedas are also called Shruti - learning by only hearing. In the earlier yugas the vedic knowledge was passed on from guru to disciple by just recitation and hearing. In this age of Kali (kali-yuga) our memories are > comapratively duller and hence for our benefit the Vedas were compiled in written form. There are many suggestions about the exact time they were compiled but they still remain the oldest scriptures in this world. > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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