Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I am practicing ashtanga at home for a short while . The last few times I was in class I was to start Floating back instead of jumping back . Can anyone give me any tips on this ? I was told by an instructor to lean forward and I will kind of lift . I also have watched a few videos but it's usually done in such a smooth manner that it is hard to see . It seems so hard to lift . I see how this will also help me jump forward and through with straight legs as well. Everything seems to flow together. Of course practice, practice, and practice and I should be able to float but were just seeking a few tips . Take care everyone . James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Hi! James Initially, I also had the same problem. It needs shoulder strength and balance, that is where the bandha's come into play. Bandha plays an important role here. Besides this, a bit of momentum helps as well. I am not an expert but only recently managed to do it. Try this, whilst in sitting position draw you legs inward cross leg. Knees facing upwars, ankles and both feet lifeted up from the floor with both hands on either side of your hips on the floor. Allow your bottom to roll back. As you are just about to start fall back, push forward with your body. As you go forward you would realise your hands actually touching the floor. At this point, push yourself up using the shoulder strength and at the same time you need to use your bandha whilst folding the legs your arms. There is a book entitled, Astanga Yoga for you by Tara Fraser, published by Duncan Baird Publishers, 2005. Nameste Jason Jason ______________________________\ ____ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos./carfinder/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 try ,putting a pair of blocks,the Iyengar ones,instead of ptressing the floor,press the blocks and you will learn faster,first try forward,then back wards,but before trying the whole jump backwards,try to raise de weight of your body with the legs folded pushing the blocks to the floor ,if you do not understand how to do it i can send you some pictures, hari om lucía otero from buenos aires argentina James <cynomolgus escribió: I am practicing ashtanga at home for a short while . The last few times I was in class I was to start Floating back instead of jumping back . Can anyone give me any tips on this ? I was told by an instructor to lean forward and I will kind of lift . I also have watched a few videos but it's usually done in such a smooth manner that it is hard to see . It seems so hard to lift . I see how this will also help me jump forward and through with straight legs as well. Everything seems to flow together. Of course practice, practice, and practice and I should be able to float but were just seeking a few tips . Take care everyone . James Los referentes más importantes en compra/venta de autos se juntaron: Demotores y .Ahora comprar o vender tu auto es más fácil. Visitá http://ar.autos./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Hey Thanks . Im actually talking about something else but I didnt explain myself well enough . Starting at Samasthitih You inhale hands up , exhale bend forward , inhale halfway up and then you( exhale and kind of lift you bottom half up and then fall back to Chatarunga . ) Thats where I am having trouble . I cant seem to lift my bottom half up like that . but those blocks ARE a good idea for my jump throughs to sitting with straight legs , that will help . And they just might work at first for lifting myself while standing . Thanks for the book tip as well , Im always looking for some good Yoga reading ! Take care . jason khoo <jasonkhoobj wrote: Hi! James Initially, I also had the same problem. It needs shoulder strength and balance, that is where the bandha's come into play. Bandha plays an important role here. Besides this, a bit of momentum helps as well. I am not an expert but only recently managed to do it. Try this, whilst in sitting position draw you legs inward cross leg. Knees facing upwars, ankles and both feet lifeted up from the floor with both hands on either side of your hips on the floor. Allow your bottom to roll back. As you are just about to start fall back, push forward with your body. As you go forward you would realise your hands actually touching the floor. At this point, push yourself up using the shoulder strength and at the same time you need to use your bandha whilst folding the legs your arms. There is a book entitled, Astanga Yoga for you by Tara Fraser, published by Duncan Baird Publishers, 2005. Nameste Jason Jason ________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos./carfinder/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Please send me links to pictures - or the pictures themselves. thanks --- lucia otero <lu_cia03 wrote: > try ,putting a pair of blocks,the Iyengar > ones,instead of ptressing the floor,press the blocks > and you will learn faster,first try forward,then > back wards,but before trying the whole jump > backwards,try to raise de weight of your body with > the legs folded pushing the blocks to the floor ,if > you do not understand how to do it i can send you > some pictures, > hari om > lucía otero > from buenos aires > argentina > > James <cynomolgus escribió: > I am practicing ashtanga at home for a > short while . The last few > times I was in class I was to start Floating back > instead of jumping > back . Can anyone give me any tips on this ? I was > told by an > instructor to lean forward and I will kind of lift . > I also have > watched a few videos but it's usually done in such a > smooth manner that > it is hard to see . It seems so hard to lift . > > I see how this will also help me jump forward and > through with > straight legs as well. Everything seems to flow > together. > > Of course practice, practice, and practice and I > should be able to > float but were just seeking a few tips . > > Take care everyone . > > James > > Los referentes más importantes en compra/venta de > autos se juntaron: > Demotores y .Ahora comprar o vender tu auto es > más fácil. > Visitá http://ar.autos./ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ______________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Just my opinion, but I believe using blocks for jump backs and jump throughs is not an effective way to develop these " skills " . When you use the blocks, because of the extra distance provided you use the muscles of the shoulders and arms to lift, and the lift tends to be more vertical actually making it more difficult to swing the legs back through. Without the blocks, because there is less distance between shoulders and floor, lift has to come more from the core -- to hold the knees closer to the chest. Ultimately, to keep the feet from touching down as your weight moves back, unless you are extremely strong, the elbows must bend bringing the chest closer to the floor and counterbalancing the weight of the hips as they move back. For many (particularly until sufficient strength is developed) there is a reluctance to bend the elbows (subconscious fear of " face plant " ). For most people the reluctance to bend the elbows at this point is increased when you are balanced on several inches of blocks. Bottom line, the muscle groups and kinematics are quite different when you use blocks. -tom On 9/6/07, jason khoo <jasonkhoobj wrote: > > Hi! James > > Initially, I also had the same problem. It needs > shoulder strength and balance, that is where the > bandha's come into play. Bandha plays an important > role here. Besides this, a bit of momentum helps as > well. > > I am not an expert but only recently managed to do it. > Try this, whilst in sitting position draw you legs > inward cross leg. Knees facing upwars, ankles and both > feet lifeted up from the floor with both hands on > either side of your hips on the floor. Allow your > bottom to roll back. As you are just about to start > fall back, push forward with your body. As you go > forward you would realise your hands actually touching > the floor. At this point, push yourself up using the > shoulder strength and at the same time you need to use > your bandha whilst folding the legs your arms. > > There is a book entitled, Astanga Yoga for you by Tara > Fraser, published by Duncan Baird Publishers, 2005. > > Nameste > Jason > > Jason > > ________ > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car > Finder tool. > http://autos./carfinder/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 hi, this link may be of help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3CasSZjPzU & mode=related & search= Try big toes together palms flat 1 hands width in front of feet, bend knees if necessary. Rock forward on inhale onto balls of toes, drop head, push into hands. Try and get butt as high as possible. Rock back onto heels on exhale. Do this 5 or ten times to build strength. Be slow deliberate and happy. Also practice coming up and down from headstand (slow, deliberate and happy) to build strength. If you are consistent then results follow. Hope this helps. Namaste Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Try doing a kind of bakasana, just resting the weight or your legs on your elbows, that will give you abdominal power and control for the future and more complicate movement. So place the knees on your elbows, higher as possible, and them push the legs backward. At the beggining one leg at a time, and with practice both together. Later when this movement is ok, try to keep your knees close together for a while in the air close to your abdomen after bakasana and before pushing the legs backward. I don´t know if I´m clear enought or my english is correct. Have a good and experimental practice Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Hi Group I agree with Tom. If you would like the " flight path " explained in detail, get David Swenson's book on Ashtanga Yoga, I could not come close. Namaste' Rob ashtangayoga , " Tom Hunter " <thunter01 wrote: > > Just my opinion, but I believe using blocks for jump backs and jump throughs > is not an effective way to develop these " skills " . When you use the blocks, > because of the extra distance provided you use the muscles of the shoulders > and arms to lift, and the lift tends to be more vertical actually making it > more difficult to swing the legs back through. > > Without the blocks, because there is less distance between shoulders and > floor, lift has to come more from the core -- to hold the knees closer to > the chest. Ultimately, to keep the feet from touching down as your weight > moves back, unless you are extremely strong, the elbows must bend bringing > the chest closer to the floor and counterbalancing the weight of the hips as > they move back. For many (particularly until sufficient strength is > developed) there is a reluctance to bend the elbows (subconscious fear of > " face plant " ). For most people the reluctance to bend the elbows at this > point is increased when you are balanced on several inches of blocks. > > Bottom line, the muscle groups and kinematics are quite different when you > use blocks. > > -tom > > On 9/6/07, jason khoo <jasonkhoobj wrote: > > > > Hi! James > > > > Initially, I also had the same problem. It needs > > shoulder strength and balance, that is where the > > bandha's come into play. Bandha plays an important > > role here. Besides this, a bit of momentum helps as > > well. > > > > I am not an expert but only recently managed to do it. > > Try this, whilst in sitting position draw you legs > > inward cross leg. Knees facing upwars, ankles and both > > feet lifeted up from the floor with both hands on > > either side of your hips on the floor. Allow your > > bottom to roll back. As you are just about to start > > fall back, push forward with your body. As you go > > forward you would realise your hands actually touching > > the floor. At this point, push yourself up using the > > shoulder strength and at the same time you need to use > > your bandha whilst folding the legs your arms. > > > > There is a book entitled, Astanga Yoga for you by Tara > > Fraser, published by Duncan Baird Publishers, 2005. > > > > Nameste > > Jason > > > > Jason > > > > ________ > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car > > Finder tool. > > http://autos./carfinder/ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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