Sciatica: ahimsa

[Guest guest]

Hi:

 

I work therapeutic Yoga, anusara, dance of Shiva, dinamic Yoga, Hatha Flow and

Power Vinyasa.

 

I did some Ashtanga and Iyengar, also kundalini.

 

Ashtanga people use to forget that the main point of the practice is breathing

and meditation. It is not that anusara gets much better but at least they do

healthy alignments. I am surprised that people working ashtanga are not having

even more injuries.

 

I am becoming extremelly flexible, almost a contortionist by using breathing,

alignmentsm patient, love and care but I dislike the way ashtanga gets into deep

asanas without warming the body before. It is really dangerous.

 

Well, u will hate this message but yoga is about being honest. Also ahimsa: no

violence to others nor ourselves

 

love and peace

Jess

[Guest guest]

Hi,

It is the first time I hear Ashtanga may be dangerous.

 

My teacher make us do a warming before practising. She also adapts

the postures differently when we have problems.

The breathing is part of Ashtanga, we use it all the time and the

movement follows the breath, 5 deep breaths each asana !

But it's true that the meditation part is a bit missing, I think

Ashtanga yoga is very good but not complete.

 

I'll be curious to know what you think of Iyengar and Kundalini, I've

tried Kundalini and didn't like it.

 

I think there's different people, different techniques !

[Guest guest]

Dear Jess,

I have to say that I agree with you.

 

I am practising with Sharath at the moment at Purple Valley in Goa, and

although he is the most darling person, very sweet and unassuming, the

classes are very 'wham bam thank you maam' without any consideration for

alignment or individuality.

 

Although I love Sharath dearly, it is almost enough to put me off pure

Ashtanga. A more sensible, intelligent approach broadly based on Ashtanga

but allowing more time and taking each day as it comes, works better for me.

It's also so extremely competitive in the shala. There are so many egos

flying around, and high-maintenance people.

That's not yoga !

 

Annie

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:54 AM

Re: ashtanga yoga Sciatica: ahimsa

 

 

> Hi:

>

> I work therapeutic Yoga, anusara, dance of Shiva, dinamic Yoga, Hatha Flow

> and Power Vinyasa.

>

> I did some Ashtanga and Iyengar, also kundalini.

>

> Ashtanga people use to forget that the main point of the practice is

> breathing and meditation. It is not that anusara gets much better but at

> least they do healthy alignments. I am surprised that people working

> ashtanga are not having even more injuries.

>

> I am becoming extremelly flexible, almost a contortionist by using

> breathing, alignmentsm patient, love and care but I dislike the way

> ashtanga gets into deep asanas without warming the body before. It is

> really dangerous.

>

> Well, u will hate this message but yoga is about being honest. Also

> ahimsa: no violence to others nor ourselves

>

> love and peace

> Jess

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Like the saying goes, honesty is the best policy and

yes, honest is part of yoga pratice. There are many

types of yoga but all is achieving one common goal.

Different routes, same destination. Anusara yoga

(developed by John Friend), Ashtanga Yoga and many

more were influenced by Hatha Yoga. The system was

drawn on and elaborated from the basic principle,

Hatha Yoga.

 

I too have done several types of yoga, Sivananda,

Bikram, Jivamukti, etc and also have done Kundalini

for sometime in the past. Ashtanga practises do have

warm ups and if you look carefully into it you will

see it otherwise seek a good teacher who will show you

the way eventually the light will be seen.

 

All the names are to differentiate the systems. It is

just simply yoga.

 

SATYA - truthfulness, word and action.

 

Jason

 

Jason

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi! Barbara.

 

I fully agree with you, different system suits

different people. What I would say is try the systems

you have mentioned as yoga is very individual. Words

are very hard to described.

 

Warm ups can be very debatable depending on whether

one looks at the western or eastern wscientific point

of view. In fact, both and every system of yoga I have

practised in the past including ashtanga do have warm

ups. Pranayama is a good way of warming up but it can

be seen by another system as not, so just do what

caters best for oneself.

 

Asthanga is a system based on the 8 limbs: -

 

1. Yama - ethical and moral restraint

2. Niyama - Practices to create inner integrity

3. Asana - postures

4. Pranayama - Breath regulation

5. Pratyahara - sensory withdrawal

6. Dharana - Concentration

7. Dhayana - Meditation

8. Samadhi - bliss state of oneself

 

All the above are carried out during asanas. Speaking

about meditation, you are actually meditating whilst

doing asanas. It takes time and only time will tell.

The most difficult to achieve is probably Samadhi.

 

 

Jason

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Annie, I am happy to hear someone with your

experience say what I feel each time I go to Mysore. I

love the Astanga practice and use the sequence as a

guideline for my own practice, and when I teach. But

the way this practice is taught feels wrong to me and

I think it actually works contrary to what yoga is

about. And how I want my practice to be. I have seen

way to many people injured and instead of working to

dissolve the ego found just the opposite. Thanks for

sharing.

 

YogaBound Deb

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