Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Hello, I hope you can help me. I have - now - little pain in my right breastmuscle. Maybee it is from lifting heavy coal, three weeks ago. My doctor said, I have ruptured muscle fibers and I have to stop practising yoga maybee two 2 weeks. I tryed to practise a little, also with modifications and the day after the pain was even stronger. In the Internet I found that I could be even 6 weeks stop doing any " sport " , connected with the breast muscle. Does anybody know this problem? Its very hard for me to stop practising, I tryed zazen, but its not the same. Thanks a lot Nadine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 You could leave out all the stuff that requires use of that muscle. I know the practice will not be the same but at least you will still be practicing. Practice non attachment to what you think you should be doing. You can warm your body up by holding poses that utilize big muscle groups like the legs. For instance, since you cannot do chatarunga and planks during sun salutes, you can hold chair and warrior one for a minute or so while holding your locks and breathing deeply. Rest in childs for a few breathes instead of down dog then repeat. When you feel warm, start standing series and hold some of those a bit longer to keep the heat up. You should be warm when you hit the floor. You will have to skip vinyasa so make sure to use locks, breathing and a good pace to keep heat and energy up. Skip any big binds and weight bearing stuff. Heat up the room too. This is just a suggestion. I Am a yoga teacher not a doctor. Use at you own risk. You can e- mail me for modification tips. Yin yoga would also be a good practice during this period. Paul grilley has a great book on this you can get from his site or amazon. Shanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Nadine, The muscle fibers work in specific groups to achieve specific movements. You can do things which do not involve the breast muscle (pectorals). They are used to move the arms forward and across the chest against resistance, so cobra-type asanas are out, as are most positions where the arms must bear weight. You could do almost anything that involves standing upright or laying on your back as long as the arms are not bearing weight - let the pain be your guide to safety. As for zazen, I do 30-60 minutes of sitting daily and I find it to be a useful second approach to meditation. There are also walking meditations that might help. After all, since you must heal, why not explore some diversity, work on some weaker points? D Darrell G King, RN, CASAC-T Rochester, NY, US http://darrellking.com DarrellGKing On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Nadine <foersternad wrote: > > > Hello, > > I hope you can help me. I have - now - little pain in my right > breastmuscle. Maybee it is from lifting heavy coal, three weeks ago. My > doctor said, I have ruptured muscle fibers and I have to stop practising > yoga maybee two 2 weeks. I tryed to practise a little, also with > modifications and the day after the pain was even stronger. In the Internet > I found that I could be even 6 weeks stop doing any " sport " , connected with > the breast muscle. Does anybody know this problem? Its very hard for me to > stop practising, I tryed zazen, but its not the same. > > Thanks a lot > Nadine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Excuse my New York City directness, but if you tore a muscle and all you need to do is take 2 weeks off, for Krishna's sake take 2 weeks off, spend the time cleaning up your neighborhood or cooking some soup for some old folks or whatever, perhaps in meditation as to why such an infintesimal bump in your road is that troubling. What is the point in developing your physical flexibilty if your life flexibility is za-zero? ashtangayoga , " Nadine " <foersternad wrote: > > Hello, > > I hope you can help me. I have - now - little pain in my right breastmuscle. Maybee it is from lifting heavy coal, three weeks ago. My doctor said, I have ruptured muscle fibers and I have to stop practising yoga maybee two 2 weeks. I tryed to practise a little, also with modifications and the day after the pain was even stronger. In the Internet I found that I could be even 6 weeks stop doing any " sport " , connected with the breast muscle. Does anybody know this problem? Its very hard for me to stop practising, I tryed zazen, but its not the same. > > Thanks a lot > Nadine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 I agree with Shanna. Â Please don't rush back, take all the time to heal properly. Â If not it can last for a lot longer than 2 to 6 weeks and continue to reoccur. Michael --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Shanna <lashannasmall wrote: Shanna <lashannasmall ashtanga yoga Re: rupture of a muscle fiber " ashtangayoga " <ashtangayoga > Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 10:34 AM Â You could leave out all the stuff that requires use of that muscle. I know the practice will not be the same but at least you will still be practicing. Practice non attachment to what you think you should be doing. You can warm your body up by holding poses that utilize big muscle groups like the legs. For instance, since you cannot do chatarunga and planks during sun salutes, you can hold chair and warrior one for a minute or so while holding your locks and breathing deeply. Rest in childs for a few breathes instead of down dog then repeat. When you feel warm, start standing series and hold some of those a bit longer to keep the heat up. You should be warm when you hit the floor. You will have to skip vinyasa so make sure to use locks, breathing and a good pace to keep heat and energy up. Skip any big binds and weight bearing stuff. Heat up the room too. This is just a suggestion. I Am a yoga teacher not a doctor. Use at you own risk. You can e- mail me for modification tips. Yin yoga would also be a good practice during this period. Paul grilley has a great book on this you can get from his site or amazon. Shanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 I have to agree with NYC. As one who has been sidelined by spine surgery & will never practice finishing series again, be grateful! The practice is about living well, adapting & growing.. something that's all too easy to forget when you're struggling with marichy D Peace, k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 I kinda like the message in the NYC directness.... D On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:14 PM, charlierom2003 <no_reply >wrote: Excuse my New York City directness, but if you tore a muscle and all you need to do is take 2 weeks off, for Krishna's sake take 2 weeks off, spend the time cleaning up your neighborhood or cooking some soup for some old folks or whatever, perhaps in meditation as to why such an infintesimal bump in your road is that troubling. What is the point in developing your physical flexibilty if your life flexibility is za-zero? ashtangayoga <ashtangayoga%40>, " Nadine " <foersternad wrote: > > Hello, > > I hope you can help me. I have - now - little pain in my right breastmuscle. Maybee it is from lifting heavy coal, three weeks ago. My doctor said, I have ruptured muscle fibers and I have to stop practising yoga maybee two 2 weeks. I tryed to practise a little, also with modifications and the day after the pain was even stronger. In the Internet I found that I could be even 6 weeks stop doing any " sport " , connected with the breast muscle. Does anybody know this problem? Its very hard for me to stop practising, I tryed zazen, but its not the same. > > Thanks a lot > Nadine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Hello Darrell, thanks for your suggestions. I tried it - but again pain. The problem is, that I feel the pain only after practising. So I think the best is to stop practising for some weeks- to avoid more harm and more days without ashtanga. nadine ashtangayoga , Darrell King <DarrellGKing wrote: > > Nadine, > > The muscle fibers work in specific groups to achieve specific movements. You > can do things which do not involve the breast muscle (pectorals). They are > used to move the arms forward and across the chest against resistance, so > cobra-type asanas are out, as are most positions where the arms must bear > weight. You could do almost anything that involves standing upright or > laying on your back as long as the arms are not bearing weight - let the > pain be your guide to safety. > > As for zazen, I do 30-60 minutes of sitting daily and I find it to be a > useful second approach to meditation. There are also walking meditations > that might help. After all, since you must heal, why not explore some > diversity, work on some weaker points? > > D > > Darrell G King, RN, CASAC-T > Rochester, NY, US > http://darrellking.com > DarrellGKing > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Nadine <foersternad wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I hope you can help me. I have - now - little pain in my right > > breastmuscle. Maybee it is from lifting heavy coal, three weeks ago. My > > doctor said, I have ruptured muscle fibers and I have to stop practising > > yoga maybee two 2 weeks. I tryed to practise a little, also with > > modifications and the day after the pain was even stronger. In the Internet > > I found that I could be even 6 weeks stop doing any " sport " , connected with > > the breast muscle. Does anybody know this problem? Its very hard for me to > > stop practising, I tryed zazen, but its not the same. > > > > Thanks a lot > > Nadine > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Hi shanna, I know yin yoga. I tried it once.I found the book. Maybee I find some asanas to do. The thing is, that's already more than a mounth after the injury and I had again pain after practising without using the muscle. (I tried to avoid using the muscle...) The best is to do nothing fore some weeks, so that the muscle can heal. Nadine ashtangayoga , Shanna <lashannasmall wrote: > > You could leave out all the stuff that requires use of that muscle. I know the practice will not be the same but at least you will still be practicing. Practice non attachment to what you think you should be doing. You can warm your body up by holding poses that utilize big muscle groups like the legs. For instance, since you cannot do chatarunga and planks during sun salutes, you can hold chair and warrior one for a minute or so while holding your locks and breathing deeply. Rest in childs for a few breathes instead of down dog then repeat. When you feel warm, start standing series and hold some of those a bit longer to keep the heat up. You should be warm when you hit the floor. You will have to skip vinyasa so make sure to use locks, breathing and a good pace to keep heat and energy up. Skip any big binds and weight bearing stuff. Heat up the room too. This is just a suggestion. I Am a yoga teacher not a doctor. Use at you own risk. You can e- mail me > for modification tips. Yin yoga would also be a good practice during this period. Paul grilley has a great book on this you can get from his site or amazon. > > > Shanna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Yes - better to stop practicing for some weeks - I have to do it... ashtangayoga , michael714 <michaela7145 wrote: > > I agree with Shanna. Â Please don't rush back, take all the time to heal properly. Â If not it can last for a lot longer than 2 to 6 weeks and continue to reoccur. > Michael > > --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Shanna <lashannasmall wrote: > > Shanna <lashannasmall > ashtanga yoga Re: rupture of a muscle fiber > " ashtangayoga " <ashtangayoga > > Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 10:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > You could leave out all the stuff that requires use of that muscle. I know the practice will not be the same but at least you will still be practicing. Practice non attachment to what you think you should be doing. You can warm your body up by holding poses that utilize big muscle groups like the legs. For instance, since you cannot do chatarunga and planks during sun salutes, you can hold chair and warrior one for a minute or so while holding your locks and breathing deeply. Rest in childs for a few breathes instead of down dog then repeat. When you feel warm, start standing series and hold some of those a bit longer to keep the heat up. You should be warm when you hit the floor. You will have to skip vinyasa so make sure to use locks, breathing and a good pace to keep heat and energy up. Skip any big binds and weight bearing stuff. Heat up the room too. This is just a suggestion. I Am a yoga teacher not a doctor. Use at you own risk. You can e- > mail me > > for modification tips. Yin yoga would also be a good practice during this period. Paul grilley has a great book on this you can get from his site or amazon. > > > > Shanna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 It's not important how much you can do, it`s important, that you can do it regularly. ashtangayoga , Kathi Kizirnis <kkizirnis wrote: > > I have to agree with NYC. As one who has been sidelined by spine > surgery & will never practice finishing series again, be grateful! The > practice is about living well, adapting & growing.. something that's > all too easy to forget when you're struggling with marichy D > Peace, k > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Wisely spoken, Nadine... D On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Nadine <foersternad wrote: Hello Darrell, thanks for your suggestions. I tried it - but again pain. The problem is, that I feel the pain only after practising. So I think the best is to stop practising for some weeks- to avoid more harm and more days without ashtanga. nadine ashtangayoga <ashtangayoga%40>, Darrell King <DarrellGKing wrote: > > Nadine, > > The muscle fibers work in specific groups to achieve specific movements. You > can do things which do not involve the breast muscle (pectorals). They are > used to move the arms forward and across the chest against resistance, so > cobra-type asanas are out, as are most positions where the arms must bear > weight. You could do almost anything that involves standing upright or > laying on your back as long as the arms are not bearing weight - let the > pain be your guide to safety. > > As for zazen, I do 30-60 minutes of sitting daily and I find it to be a > useful second approach to meditation. There are also walking meditations > that might help. After all, since you must heal, why not explore some > diversity, work on some weaker points? > > D > > Darrell G King, RN, CASAC-T > Rochester, NY, US > http://darrellking.com > DarrellGKing > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Nadine <foersternad wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I hope you can help me. I have - now - little pain in my right > > breastmuscle. Maybee it is from lifting heavy coal, three weeks ago. My > > doctor said, I have ruptured muscle fibers and I have to stop practising > > yoga maybee two 2 weeks. I tryed to practise a little, also with > > modifications and the day after the pain was even stronger. In the Internet > > I found that I could be even 6 weeks stop doing any " sport " , connected with > > the breast muscle. Does anybody know this problem? Its very hard for me to > > stop practising, I tryed zazen, but its not the same. > > > > Thanks a lot > > Nadine > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I agree then. Meditation would be good. Shanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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