Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 :-) I chanced upon a copy of the khadyota vyAkhya of bhAskara-rAya recently. This is a commentary on the mahA-gaNapati sahasranAma. mahA-gaNapati sahasranAma: uchChiShTa gaNa uchChiShTa - ganesho gaNa-nAyakaH sArvakAlikasaMsiddhir nitya-shaivo digaMbaraH - 67 Translation of bhAskara-rAya's commentary. 346.uchChiShTa gaNaH - ut.h+shiShTa+gaNaH i.e. One who is in command of great and cultured/learned pramatha gaNa-s(shiva gaNa-s) 347.uchChiShTa-ganeshaH - That gaNesha which the 27 atharvaNa-veda* mantra-s starting from " uchChiShTaM nAma rUpaM cha " put forth; upAsaka-s who practice a certain mantra of gaNesha perform japa with uchChiShTa-mukha after eating modaka. For this reason he is called u.gaNesha. - Bhaskara-Raya's commentary**. Note that bhAskara-rAya doesnt say anything** about any special u.gaNesha worshiped by shrIvidya people * - Note that another member said the following on the same subject " I am told the atharvaveda has a uchChiShTa sUkta by which after a veda karma the remnants are identified with the universe for dedication as an offering to rudra. Both vedic and tantric uchChiShTa have a transgressive aspect to them. " ** - I have the commentary as a Telugu translation and dont have access to the sanskrit original. If any one thinks that either the content and/or spirit of the sanskrit original is different from what is presented here, kindly let me know. Rgds sa. ----------------- The following is a reply to some of the postings on Ambaa-l on this topic from people of the Kamakotimandali group. I am unsure as to who authored this originally(Harsha?) as the posting seemed a bit jumbled Note: 1) A long post 2) Comments within flower({}) brackets are mine. Also see comments at the very end of this post. *************************************** ************************************* The u. gaNesha worship originally has its origins with gANapatya-s. Please see the following note by a acquaintance of mine. Notes in bracket are mine. --- " The next great Acharya of the sect(gANapatya sect) was herambasuta, who founded the heterodox vAmAchara cult of gaNapati worship. They worship the form of gaNapati termed ucchiShTa gaNapati. He is mediated in a form, which may be viewed by many uninitiated modern Hindus and others as being very obscene. " -- Apparently these are not shrIvidya upAsaka-s but worship u.gaNesha. So where does the shrIvidya requirement come from? ************************************* Srividya is really a big umbrella. We have shrIvidyA dakShiNAmUrti, we have shrIvidyA rAjagopAla, and we have shrIvidyArupI ucchiShTa gaNesha. Even mahAgaNapati has been adopted in a Srividya-compatible form by Acharyas like Haradutta, who propagated vAnchA kalpalatA mode etc. Like stated earlier, the pramANa for this particular form of upAsanA is uDDAmareshwara Tantra**{{See my comments at the end}}. Yes, whatever is stated [regarding heterodox vAmAchAra etc.] is generally the *popular* way he is worshipped, but is it correct to assume that is the `only' way? ucchiShTa gaNesha, as explained in the phala sruti of ucchiShTagaNesha mAlA mantra of rudra yAmala is worshipped as a brahmachAri, as with a consort, as one's own self etc., based on the qualification of the upAsaka. Also, he is worshipped as a pischAcha, yakSha, gaNa,rudra, gaNapati and ultimately as prakAsha-vimarsha samarasa swarUpa,again based on the qualification of the upAsaka. The last form, taught secretly from Guru to Shishya in dakShiNAmUrti sampradAya, insists of pUrNAbhiSheka before undertaking this advanced form of upAsanA. The qualification for undertaking this upAsanA is stated as: ramAdiShoDashIyuktaH dwAtrimshanmantrapAragaH. Here, Sri Lalita is visualised as Sri ucchiShTa mahAgaNapati and Sri Kameshwara as Sri Nila Saraswati. Also, the ucchiShTa pAduka peculiar to this form of upAsanA is called mahA mahA pAdukA or dakShiNAmUrti pAdukA. So, there is the gANapatya aspect and there is the Srividya aspect to ucchiShTa gaNeshopAsanA. The requirement is *true* in the case of Srividya aspect, both by shAstra pramANa and sampradAya. {{So we are led to believe that that one doesn't need shrIvidya to worship u.gaNesha but it is required when worshiping a special u.gaNesha in some shrIvidya tradition- personally, I am usually a bit suspicious of southerners who make statements like " this is some secret shrIvidya tradition/mantra and only we initiates know these things " .}} ************************************* If mokSha is what the sAdhaka desires there is no need to go this far and he has better things to do. Ex: Studying the shankara bhAShya-s and doing some serious AtmavichAra. Hence above statements are inaccurate IMHO. One doesn't need to specifically worship u.gaNesha to achieve mokSha. ************************************* This again takes us back to the basic question of adhikAra bheda. If everyone were capable of tattva vichAra, where was the need for upAsanA at all? {{It is not being said that one doesn't need upAsana. What is meant by the statement " no need to go this far " is that nArAyaNa aShTAkShari or pa~nchAkShari and some other mahA-mantra is enough if mokSha is the only goal. It is observed that the following statements do have a point **if** there is any truth in what is stated below.}} And all those who study bAdarAyaNa's sUtra and debate endlessly would get enlighetend. The Acharyas would not insist on upAsanA or bhakti if that were the case. So, sopAna krama is the only asnwer for most. mokSha can be attained by worshipping any form sincerely in the sense that chitta shuddhi, a pre-requisite for tattva vichAra as also the ShaT sampatti can be accomplished through such upAsanA. However, certain upAsanA modes have been found to be *more* effective by AchAryas and hence have recommended those to their disciples. shrIvidyA can be quoted as an example. Apart from `secular', `text book' statements such as `all paths are same', `all lead to the same god' etc., the energies associated, the time required for progress etc. are distinct. Of course, this is assuming that the sAdhakA is hypothetically a sincere one with all the required lakShaNas. Like jaggery can be described only by the one who has eaten it, the differneces between these various modes can only be realised by one who has practically gone through it. Rest can only be hypothetical. By experience, an ucchiShTa gaNapati upAsaka can vouch for how the movement of kuNDalini is rapid, blissful and foceful when compared to what is stimulated by other mantras. Yes, this is not the only way to mokSha but its validness as a tool for mokSha need not be disputed. One should observe that most Tantras describe along with other mantras, this particular set of mantras as kShipra siddhi prada. Though what is `siddhi' is something debatable, uDDAmareshwara Tantra, which discusses the Vedantic aspect of ucchiShTa gaNesha as the only true aspect, calls the entire set of chapters, `kShipra siddhi paTala'. ************************************* Undoubtedly this is an elevating interpretation. It gives a glimpse of the vedAntic(which is really a great thing)mind of the interpreter. I personally like to know if there is any textual basis or atleast a traditional(sAmpradAya) basis for interpreting like above. There seems to be a trend where everything has to be interpreted along vedAntic lines regardless of whether the texts warrant such an interpretation or not. There is no need to mix things as there is enough confusion already. ************************************* Yes, kAdi dakShiNAmUrti krama tantra insists, as detailed in uDDAmareshwara and baDabAnala Tantras, on abheda between Srividya and ucchiShTa gaNeshopAsanA, in many ways. It establishes unity between Srichakra and ucchiShTa gaNesha mantradwaya, abheda between mUrtis of ucchiShTa gaNesha and Sri Lalita, aikya between navachakra - navAvaraNa - mantradwaya - Sridevi - Sriguru and upAsaka. The `avashiShTa' brahma vastu after the nAma and rUpa are dissolved, which is the prakAsha vimarsha samarasa swarUpa called Brahman or Sri Guru, is described as the swarUpa of ucchiShTa gaNesha. Again, the pramANa here is both shAstra and sampradAya. The same is described in guhya sahasranAma{{** See end comment on this sahasranAma}} as utkR^iShTa shiShTa sadvastu, commented upon by H H Sri Sri Sacchidananda Shivabhinava Nrsimha Bharati Swamigal of Sringeri Sharada Peetham, {{can someone else please confirm if HH did indeed comment on this?}} faithfully recorded not only by Brahmasri Chidanandanatha of Guhananda Mandali, but also by Sri Balaganapati Bhatta, AshthAna vidwAn of Sringeri Sharada Peetham who was initiated into this upAsana by H H Acharya himself. One can also refer to the kriti in kAsIrAmakriyA, ucchiShTa gaNapatau, by Sri Muttuswami dikshitar, where he describes Lord thus: sacChabdavAchAswaRupiNi shabalIkrtabrahmaswarUpiNi chicchaktispUrtiswarUpiNi chidAnandanAthaswarUpiNi [in Venkataramana Iyer's version, it is chidAnandanAda swarUpiNi, also the version adopted by pAtti (DKP)]. Also, I see vedAntic interpretation of upAsanA, while not deviating from it in essence by `trashing' saguNa swarUpa as useless, to be helpful and rather the right approach. It keeps one grounded, enculcates vairAgya and keeps reminding one of the need for AtmAnusandhAna when ready and brahmAvApti as the only goal of upAsanA. ************************************* Meaning: The modaka or tAmbUla offered to the devata should be eaten and japa done without cleaning the mouth. Trying to fit it in above view of uchChiShTa will just get complicated here. Let us also not forget the context of the statement. ************************************* As stated earlier, the rites and rituals prescribed vary based on the approach of the aspirant. This is what is prescribed in one Tantra, and for that mantra of ucchiShTa gaNesha which is not associated with Srividya. But how can this be the only approach to ucchiShTa gaNeshopAsanA? Moreover, the same Tantra which describes these also states that there are absolutely no rules for ucchiShTa gaNeshopAsanA [in the mantroddhAra chapter of rudrayAmala, which is one of the parishishTas of the pUrva tantra] ----------- SA: ** - The uDDAmareshvara tantra and the guhya sahasranAma are referred more than once in the above post. 1) The uDDAmareshavara tantra that I saw did not have anything about u.gaNesha. This is not a serious objection because it could be that I was looking at an incomplete version or probably the u.gaNesha portion was somehow a " secret " paTala. 2) Look at the following names from the secret u.gaNesha 1008 stotra referred to above, supposedly from the uDDamareshvara tantra: names 328 to 337 kAmakoTi pIThavAsaH, shankarArchita pAdukaH, R^iShyashR^inga puarasthaH, sureshArchita vaibhavaH, etc etc. This sahasranAma talks about Adi Shankara establishing the four matha-s and also about his main students heading these maTha-s. It does so in more than one place. Apart from giving a high place to Kanchi Pitha, it refers to story elements from the shankara vijayam-s which makes one highly suspicious about this sahasranama. Clearly this a very late work and probably a recent adoption of the original u.gaNesha worship by some enthusiastic shrIvidya initiates(this is not to say there is something wrong in such an adoption), one would assume. 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