regarding meditation and smoking

[Guest guest]

Dear sankaranarayan and kumar,

 

The context in which this zen story was told is entirely different. The

meditation or smoking act that has NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY.

 

<<< The first monk asked : o honorable master, can I smoke when I meditate.

The master lost it, he was furious and threw him out ...

 

The other monk goes to the master: oh venerable master, can I meditate

when I smoke.

The master said: " Of course you can meditate while you smoke... " >>>>

 

Meditation is a state of being SELF-AWARE of YOUR SELF. Whatever act you do,

if you are AWARE OF YOURSELF, it is MEDITATION.

 

This story is a sort of thought-provoking and really a food for thought.

 

The 1st monk asked whether he can smoke while meditating ie., can a wordly

activity be entertained during the process of sadhana and meditation. At this

the guru got wild.

 

The 2nd monk asked whether the worldly activity be converted to meditation and

the guru approved it. That is, whatever act be it spiritual or material, it

should be offered to the SUPREME. In other words, when the ACT OF DOERSHIP or

Kartrutva-bhavana is not there, that itself is a MEDITATION. In this state one

remains in one's OWN TRUE SELF. When one abides in one's OWN TRUE SELF, even if

one smokes, or commits murder this is not a SIN. Because the SENSE OF DOERSHIP

or EGO is dissolved. This is MEDITATION.

 

With regards,

sriram

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Shri Gurubhyo Namah

 

I certainly did comprehend the metaphoric nature of the earlier posting. I do

not disagree with the import of Shri Ivatovic's posting.

 

I feel that some explanation is warranted here.

 

If you look at similar metaphors given by the great Gurus, they would never

include smoking as an act to interpret our texts or guide us. They are extremely

careful even in their examples. This is their greatness.

 

Also, I think that this is the kind of thing that could lead us in the wrong

direction, albeit by distorting the message, and converting it to suit our

purposes. We have many such examples in our history. Some of us may even get

the wrong message from this type of posting, through sheer lack of

comprehension.

 

This is why I placed my posting.

 

Thanks and Regards.

KR.

 

Shri Maatre Namah.

 

-

venkata sriram

Saturday, May 03, 2008 1:04 AM

regarding meditation and smoking

 

 

Dear sankaranarayan and kumar,

 

The context in which this zen story was told is entirely different. The

meditation or smoking act that has NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY.

 

<<< The first monk asked : o honorable master, can I smoke when I meditate.

The master lost it, he was furious and threw him out ...

 

The other monk goes to the master: oh venerable master, can I meditate

when I smoke.

The master said: " Of course you can meditate while you smoke... " >>>>

 

Meditation is a state of being SELF-AWARE of YOUR SELF. Whatever act you do,

if you are AWARE OF YOURSELF, it is MEDITATION.

 

This story is a sort of thought-provoking and really a food for thought.

 

The 1st monk asked whether he can smoke while meditating ie., can a wordly

activity be entertained during the process of sadhana and meditation. At this

the guru got wild.

 

The 2nd monk asked whether the worldly activity be converted to meditation and

the guru approved it. That is, whatever act be it spiritual or material, it

should be offered to the SUPREME. In other words, when the ACT OF DOERSHIP or

Kartrutva-bhavana is not there, that itself is a MEDITATION. In this state one

remains in one's OWN TRUE SELF. When one abides in one's OWN TRUE SELF, even if

one smokes, or commits murder this is not a SIN. Because the SENSE OF DOERSHIP

or EGO is dissolved. This is MEDITATION.

 

With regards,

sriram

 

Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.