Cleanliness and Lalita Japam

[Guest guest]

Dear Devi Bhaktas,

 

I would like to know your comments on the external suddhi that needs to

be maintained for chanting the holy Lalita Sahasranamam.

 

Is it a must that the place should be swept and fully washed? Is it

right to chant in the open terrace of a flat? (whether cleaned or not).

 

I suppose it is mandatory that one should have bathed before doing the

japam. Please expatiate on this.

 

Also, is it a must that the nitya karma like Sandhya worship should be

done before one chants LSN?

 

Regards,

Hari

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

please read the uthara bhagam for the prerequisites. It is clearly mentioned

without ambiguity.

 

Cleanliness of the surroundings and person is a must, unless one is a yati or an

avadhutha..

 

there are a number of posts in this email group regarding the need for Gayatri

Japam for a dwija any japam done without the foundation of Gayatri it is like

pouring concrete on a foundation of quick sand.

 

I have an interesting personal story.. there is this learned priest here whom I

respect, he has performed a number of Chandi yagams which are a treat to

watch... one day while talking to him, he mentioned that he could visualize all

the fruits of his pujas and yagams in a heap but nothing was reaching him.

As and when he did Gayatri japam, he could feel the phalam trickling from the

heap to him.

 

It is a reminder that as we increase our breadth and variety of upasana, we

should not feel that the nithya karmas are reducing in importance or can be

replaced.

 

Trikala Sandhya, bramha yagnam and deva rishi tarpanam is a must..if not on

weekdays atleast on weekends one should perform bramha yagnam and deva rishi

tarpanam.

 

My analogy for this is your workplace..if you do your allocated work and then

some extra work, your manager will praise you and you will probably get a bonus.

If however you do a lot of extra work but do not finish your allocated work,

chances are that your manager will reprimand you and may not even get pay.

 

A srividya upasaka requires a minimum of two hours every day.. if you cannot

allocate that after taking care of all your obligations towards your family,

parents, society etc..it is best not to enter it. Wait for Ambaal's anugraham

and pray to Her with other stotras they are equally effective. Some people have

the capacity for Srividya Upasana based on fruits of past karmas and that is

good not only for them but for the society (I am not one of them :-) the least I

can do is admire and say thanks to them).

Bhakthi is the key.

 

regards

Vishwam

 

 

 

" Krishnan, Harihara " <harihara.krishnan

 

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:40:38 AM

Cleanliness and Lalita Japam

 

 

Dear Devi Bhaktas,

 

I would like to know your comments on the external suddhi that needs to

be maintained for chanting the holy Lalita Sahasranamam.

 

Is it a must that the place should be swept and fully washed? Is it

right to chant in the open terrace of a flat? (whether cleaned or not).

 

I suppose it is mandatory that one should have bathed before doing the

japam. Please expatiate on this.

 

Also, is it a must that the nitya karma like Sandhya worship should be

done before one chants LSN?

 

Regards,

Hari

 

 

[Guest guest]

Shri Gurubhyo Namah:

 

Dear Shri Krishnan:

 

Is this type of bahishshuddhi mandatory ? No. Ashakyas ( disabled ) need not

perform these.

Is it preferable and good to perform these bashishshuddhi practices? Yes. People

who can perform these external cleansings, should do so.

Is it right to chant in the open terrace of a flat ?

Use your best judgement in choosing your spot. It should be peaceful, and it

should be amenable to mental peace and quiet. So, if the terrace is the best

place you can possibly find, then so be it. Otherwise, look for and find a good

spot.

 

Thanks and Regards.

KR.

 

Shri Maathre Namah

 

 

-

Krishnan, Harihara

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:40 AM

Cleanliness and Lalita Japam

 

 

.

__Dear Devi Bhaktas,

 

I would like to know your comments on the external suddhi that needs to

be maintained for chanting the holy Lalita Sahasranamam.

 

Is it a must that the place should be swept and fully washed? Is it

right to chant in the open terrace of a flat? (whether cleaned or not).

 

I suppose it is mandatory that one should have bathed before doing the

japam. Please expatiate on this.

 

Also, is it a must that the nitya karma like Sandhya worship should be

done before one chants LSN?

 

Regards,

Hari

 

[Guest guest]

It is said that anga heenas (those who do not have the normal body norms) are

not authorised to do Havan or srividhya puja.

One should select a place which is environmentally free and sit for japa or

meditation in the same place, in the same time everyday to get the best

results.. Facing north or east is their own choice, but for a srividhyavan

everyside is the same, because the Divine Mother is always faces the upasaka and

the upasaka facing her always remain West (she is always facing east).

S.Shangaranarayanan

 

 

: kramach: Wed, 21 May 2008

12:07:46 -0400Re: Cleanliness and Lalita Japam

 

 

 

 

Shri Gurubhyo Namah:Dear Shri Krishnan:Is this type of bahishshuddhi mandatory ?

No. Ashakyas ( disabled ) need not perform these.Is it preferable and good to

perform these bashishshuddhi practices? Yes. People who can perform these

external cleansings, should do so.Is it right to chant in the open terrace of a

flat ? Use your best judgement in choosing your spot. It should be peaceful, and

it should be amenable to mental peace and quiet. So, if the terrace is the best

place you can possibly find, then so be it. Otherwise, look for and find a good

spot. Thanks and Regards.KR.Shri Maathre Namah-

Krishnan, Harihara Wednesday, May 21, 2008

7:40 AM Cleanliness and Lalita Japam. __Dear Devi Bhaktas, I

would like to know your comments on the external suddhi that needs tobe

maintained for chanting the holy Lalita Sahasranamam. Is it a must that the

place should be swept and fully washed? Is itright to chant in the open terrace

of a flat? (whether cleaned or not).I suppose it is mandatory that one should

have bathed before doing thejapam. Please expatiate on this. Also, is it a must

that the nitya karma like Sandhya worship should bedone before one chants

LSN?Regards,Hari

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Once a devotee approached Shri Chandrashekhara Bharati Mahaswamigal for

initiation into Shrividyopasana. Acharyal asked him if he was performing

Sandhyopasana. When he replied in the affirmative, Acharyal advised him to

continue with Sandhyopasana itself as it was no lesser than or different from

Shrividyopasana.

 

[satish: Needless to say that applies only to dvija-s.]

 

vishwanthan Krishnamoorthy <krishvishy wrote:

 

please read the uthara bhagam for the prerequisites. It is clearly mentioned

without ambiguity.

 

Cleanliness of the surroundings and person is a must, unless one is a yati or an

avadhutha..

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Dear krishnan,

 

Lalitha Sahasranama is a mahamantra. So, one should observe certain mandatory

do's and don'ts before chanting this mahamantra.

 

One should get it initiated from a Guru who should be a Srividya Upasaka.

 

DO'S

 

After the bath, one should perform one's nitya and naimittika karmas like

Sandhya Anushtana and Gayatri Japa (these are for DWIJAS). The surroundings

should be clean and wiped off. And deeparadhana should be performed. A simple

common sense. How does our relatives or friends feel when our house is not clean

and untidy. When you are inviting Divine Mother to your house, at least, minimum

hygiene should be observed. Then one should chant the LS without phonetic

errors.

 

DON'TS

 

One should not chant the LS when any of the women in your house are in

menstrual periods. One should not chant the LS during the Sootaka ie., during

Jaata Ashoucha and Mrita Ashoucha. One should not chant the LS in buses, trains,

railway platforms (which is a common observation now-a-days).

 

If any of the women in your house is in menstrual periods (ladies please

excuse for being frank), stop the parayana. On the 5th day, clean your house,

clean your puja room with little turmeric, sip a little tulasi tirtha and resume

the normal parayana.

 

Barring these, there are no hard and fast rules. One can chant the divine

names of mother without any apprehensions.

 

Now, if you ask me whether external purity is necessary or not because i have

DEVOTION towards the Mother and i LOVE her.

 

I would ask who are we to judge whether we have DEVOTION / LOVE towards mother

or not. As long as we are attached to our physical bodies and as long as we have

jiva bhava, external purity is NECESSARY unless he / she is on deathbed.

 

With regards,

Sriram

 

 

" Krishnan, Harihara " <harihara.krishnan wrote:

Dear Devi Bhaktas,

 

I would like to know your comments on the external suddhi that needs to

be maintained for chanting the holy Lalita Sahasranamam.

 

Is it a must that the place should be swept and fully washed? Is it

right to chant in the open terrace of a flat? (whether cleaned or not).

 

I suppose it is mandatory that one should have bathed before doing the

japam. Please expatiate on this.

 

Also, is it a must that the nitya karma like Sandhya worship should be

done before one chants LSN?

 

Regards,

Hari

 

 

[Guest guest]

Shree Gurubhyo Namah

 

Dear friends:

 

I have a question.

 

Can one perform Nitya parayanam if there is a lady in the house undergoing that

time of the month ?

If no, how can one go against the word of the Guru, who has asked us to perform

these parayanas daily ?

If yesm then what if LS is part of that Nitya parayanam ?

 

Please do confirm from your respective Gurujis, and follow the guidance given by

Them.

 

Thanks and Regards.

KR.

 

Shree Maathre Namah.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Sriram

All your mails to this group have  been clearly based on shastra pramANAs etc

with correct co-references. You convey the  essense well. Hence pl excuse me

for the mistakes in this mail.

What if the Guru, who is a srividhyaa upasaka, tells the disciple to go ahead

and do the pArAyaNa of LS without the initiation?

In situations like these, where there are too many opinions on interpretations

of shastras( which ignorant people like me can only hear of in forums like this)

and there is the Guru's word which says do it with prayers to HER even without

the initiation, who should 'uninitiates' like me do?

Go by Guru or by what very erudient eminent srividhya upaasakas like in this

forum say?

Once again, pl donot think I am questioning what you say. I am asking from my

ignorance.

May SHE bless us for clarity.

Gopi

 

 

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, " Kumar Ramachandran " <kramach

>

> Please do confirm from your respective Gurujis, and follow the

>guidance given by Them.

 

Only if the guidelines from one's guru are in accordance with the

shastra-s. The shastra is a higher authority than the Guru. Why so?

One reason is because they are the combined/common teaching of many

Guru-s of old. This is not an own opinion. it has the support of both

tradition and texts, mainly the smriti-s.

 

When the Guru gita and other works say Guru is the final authority, it

is exaggerating the virtues of following one's teacher. This should not

be taken literally.

[Guest guest]

Shrii Gurubhyo Namah:

 

Friends:

 

I don't know about you all, but I for one have always found out after the fact

why my Guruji instructed me in a particular way, and that his reasons for doing

so were most profound and enlightened.

 

So, I will personally disagree with Shri Shriram's statements about the Guru

Geetha.

 

Here is an example from that most venerable text.

 

'Na guror adhikam vishwam, na guror adhikam tapah " etc.

 

Normally, Shri Vidya Upasakas are more bound to their Guru's instructions than

other schools of thought.

This is evident in my Guru Mandalii, and also in the various Shankara Mathams.

 

Thanks and Regards.

KR.

Shree Maathre Namah.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Shree Gurubhyo Namah:

 

Dear friends:

 

Apologies, I made an error in my quote from the Guru Geetha.

 

Here is the corrected passage that I was thinking of...

 

" Na guror adhikam tattwam, na guror adhikam tapah

na guror adhikam gyaanam tasmai shree gurave namah " .

 

Here is another...

 

" Eka eva paro bandhuh-viveke samupasthithe

guruh sakaladharmaatmaa tasmai shree gurave namah " .

 

And finally, please look at this...

 

" Gurumoorthir guNanidhir gomaatha guhajanmabhooh " .

 

 

If you are looking for a more simple text, here is another example

 

( in Hindi)

 

Hari kabhi rooTHte, Guru hi hot sahaye,

Keh Guru kabhi rooTHte, hari nahin hot sahaye.

 

( If Hari gets angry with you, then your Guru will help. If the Guru gets angry

with you, even Hari cannot help).

 

And here is one more...

 

Guru Govind dowoo khade, kaake laagon paye.

Balihaarii Guru aapne Govind diyo bataaye.

 

( Guru and Govinda are both standing in front of me, whose feet should I touch.

O dear Guru, you have sacrificed so much to tell me about Govinda, ( so I will

touch your feet) ).

 

 

Thanks.

KR.

Shree Maathre Namah

 

 

[Guest guest]

It is an over simplification of the matter. The Guru Geetha and Guruashtakam etc

have to be taken in context..for every qualified Guru there are 10 self

proclaimed prophets (by nature of this yuga) for whom the Guru geetha etc will

not be applicable..

 

the litmus test here is that the Guru's teaching will always be in consonance

with the Sruthi and Smrithi if it differs then there is a dichotomy leading to

dissent.

 

This is very true for any body claiming to be a part of the Sankaracharya guru

paramapara. This is a strong condition for the Adi Sankara sampradaya. which is

why you find the Acharyas in Sankara matham spending a lot of time and taking

the effort to base their statements and bhashyams with pramanas from sruthi. I

hope you did not imply that the Sankara mathams could differ from the

Sruthi/Smrithi.

 

 

Regarding Srividya, the Guru mandali has a very important impact on the

progress of the upasaka. The Srividya lineages associated with the

Sringeri/Kanchi mathams will be in consonance with the sastras.

 

The corollary is also true if there is a guru parampara who's teachings are not

in consonance with the Sruthi/Smrithi then it cannot belong to the Sankara

sampradaaya..it can be inspired etc..

 

I do not know about other lineages or other sampradayas such as vira shaivas,

vaishnavas, tantrika or natha sects etc. as I have not found the need to learn

about them.

 

Also for a lot of sects that have evolved around the Bhakthi movement the

shastra's fade in significance. Now I don't know if that is correct or not and I

am not passing any judgments on it.

 

Also the quotations are only true for the pure sadhaka.. and there is a litmus

test for this too..For example (only for illustration purposes do not follow :-)

)

if your guru asks you to give all your wealth and possessions to him and go to

the Himalayas for the rest of your life and you comply without a second thought,

then you are qualified to say

" Na guror adhikam tattwam, na guror adhikam tapah

na guror adhikam gyaanam tasmai shree gurave namah "

 

it is not easy to be a shishya capable of saying the above..the ego will always

come in the way and our nature to second guess is not easy to subdue. Despite

the Geetha and Vishwa rupa darshanam even Arjuna had misgivings and twice

Krishna had to get out of the chariot with the discus in hand to kill Bheeshma..

 

now there is a more interesting aspect here. If the shishya's bhakthi is pure

(complete surrender with absolutely no expectations) then even if the Guru maybe

false, by virtue of the tyaga bhava and suppose by some coincidence all his

actions are in consonance with the sastras ..the shishya attains punya and will

be the better for it as such a shishya becomes a karma yogi for obvious reasons!

 

 

regards

Vishwam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kumar Ramachandran <kramach

 

Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:36:32 PM

Re: Cleanliness and Lalita Japam

 

 

 

Shree Gurubhyo Namah:

 

Dear friends:

 

Apologies, I made an error in my quote from the Guru Geetha.

 

Here is the corrected passage that I was thinking of...

 

" Na guror adhikam tattwam, na guror adhikam tapah

na guror adhikam gyaanam tasmai shree gurave namah " .

 

Here is another...

 

" Eka eva paro bandhuh-viveke samupasthithe

guruh sakaladharmaatmaa tasmai shree gurave namah " .

 

And finally, please look at this...

 

" Gurumoorthir guNanidhir gomaatha guhajanmabhooh " .

 

If you are looking for a more simple text, here is another example

 

( in Hindi)

 

Hari kabhi rooTHte, Guru hi hot sahaye,

Keh Guru kabhi rooTHte, hari nahin hot sahaye.

 

( If Hari gets angry with you, then your Guru will help. If the Guru gets angry

with you, even Hari cannot help).

 

And here is one more...

 

Guru Govind dowoo khade, kaake laagon paye.

Balihaarii Guru aapne Govind diyo bataaye.

 

( Guru and Govinda are both standing in front of me, whose feet should I touch.

O dear Guru, you have sacrificed so much to tell me about Govinda, ( so I will

touch your feet) ).

 

Thanks.

KR.

Shree Maathre Namah

 

 

[Guest guest]

, vishwanthan Krishnamoorthy

<krishvishy wrote:

>

>

> It is an over simplification of the matter. The Guru Geetha and

>Guruashtakam etc have to be taken in context..

 

Exactly. You said it better.

 

>

 

> This is very true for any body claiming to be a part of the

>Sankaracharya guru paramapara. This is a strong condition for the

>Adi Sankara sampradaya.

 

This is also true of smArta traditions who are not connected with

shankara matha-s.

 

 

> Regarding Srividya, the Guru mandali has a very important impact on

>the

> progress of the upasaka. The Srividya lineages associated with the

> Sringeri/Kanchi mathams will be in consonance with the sastras.

 

Same with shrIvidya lineages belonging to smArta brAhmana-s who are

not connected with shankara matha-s.

 

 

> I do not know about other lineages or other sampradayas such as

>vira shaivas, vaishnavas, tantrika or natha sects etc. as I have not

>found the need to learn about them.

 

For example the siddhAnta shaiva-s(nothing to do with tamil shaiva

siddhanta -- if at all there is one) likewise stick to teh smriti-s

for teh most part.

 

 

 

> if your guru asks you to give all your wealth and possessions to

him and go to the Himalayas for the rest of your life and you comply

without a second thought, then you are qualified to say

> " Na guror adhikam tattwam, na guror adhikam tapah

> na guror adhikam gyaanam tasmai shree gurave namah "

 

:-)

[Guest guest]

Dear gopi,

 

Mantras are the combinations of matrikas. Any incorrect pronunciation of

matrika would incur the curse of yoginis that preside over the matrika. Hence,

guru is required who is the torch bearer in the torcheous path of srividya.

 

But without guru, if you proceed, you must also be prepared to face the

consequences.

 

sriram

 

Gopi <antarurjas wrote:

Dear Shri Sriram

All your mails to this group have been clearly based on shastra pramANAs etc

with correct co-references. You convey the essense well. Hence pl excuse me for

the mistakes in this mail.

What if the Guru, who is a srividhyaa upasaka, tells the disciple to go ahead

and do the pArAyaNa of LS without the initiation?

In situations like these, where there are too many opinions on interpretations

of shastras( which ignorant people like me can only hear of in forums like this)

and there is the Guru's word which says do it with prayers to HER even without

the initiation, who should 'uninitiates' like me do?

Go by Guru or by what very erudient eminent srividhya upaasakas like in this

forum say?

Once again, pl donot think I am questioning what you say. I am asking from my

ignorance.

May SHE bless us for clarity.

Gopi

 

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Dear Sriram,

Yes, my Guru and elders have warned sufficiently on the need for correct

pronounciations. There are enough stories in history,folk lore,sAstrAs,with

experiences of kanchi paramAchArya to illustrate the adverse effects on wrong

pronounciations.

But here we are not talking of pronounciation. We were talking of requirement

of initiation to recite LS,( not even srividhya). My specific doubt is

especially when the Guru himself says initiation into panchadasi is not

required to recite LS, if you have bAlA, then what does one do.

In this case,do i still have to worry of the doshas that might come?

Gopi

 

 

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, Gopi <antarurjas wrote:

>

> My specific doubt is especially when the Guru himself

>says initiation into panchadasi is not required to recite LS, if you

>have bAlA, then what does one do.

 

Isnt it said that bAlA is enough to start LS recital?

[Guest guest]

Dear gopi,

 

If you have bala, then no for initiation in LS. But then, you need to have

sound knowledge of sanskrit if you chant independantly. There are several names

in LS which look quite simple but one has to keep in view the science of

phonetics. One such example is " sumeru madhya srungaSStha " . As per phonetics, S

should be given proper stress and emphasis in Srungasstha. Which means she sits

in the middle of srichakra (bindu). If proper stress (as per phonetics 2 maatra

kala) is not given the meaning is distorted. Which means she sits at the corner

in srichakra. Distorted meanings yields adverse effects. Many are such names

where one should apply 1 maatra, 2 maatras, 3 maatras depending upon the source

of origin of maatrika in the vocal chords.

 

LS was given by Mother herself to 8 vakdevis out of compassion. It was

REVEALED by MOTHER HERSELF. These 8 vak devis are the presiding dieties in the

vocal chords. So, any wrong spell, would incur the wrath of vak devatas.

 

With regards,

Sriram

namaparayanapreetayai namah

 

Gopi <antarurjas wrote:

Dear Sriram,

Yes, my Guru and elders have warned sufficiently on the need for correct

pronounciations. There are enough stories in history,folk lore,sAstrAs,with

experiences of kanchi paramAchArya to illustrate the adverse effects on wrong

pronounciations.

But here we are not talking of pronounciation. We were talking of requirement of

initiation to recite LS,( not even srividhya). My specific doubt is especially

when the Guru himself says initiation into panchadasi is not required to recite

LS, if you have bAlA, then what does one do.

In this case,do i still have to worry of the doshas that might come?

Gopi

 

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Shri Gurubhyo Namah

 

Yes, absolutely. bAlA is considered as sufficient to recite LS as a parayanam.

Thanks.

KR

Shri Maathre Namah

 

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Satish

Friday, May 23, 2008 8:08 AM

Re: Cleanliness and Lalita Japam

 

 

, Gopi <antarurjas wrote:

>

> My specific doubt is especially when the Guru himself

>says initiation into panchadasi is not required to recite LS, if you

>have bAlA, then what does one do.

 

Isnt it said that bAlA is enough to start LS recital?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Divine,

Please read the phals stuthi of Lalitha Sahasranama and it clearly says that one

should have panchadasi before reciting lalitha sahasranama and trisathi. If this

is not done the yoginis curse the upasaka. Please do not misguide people by

telling them that Bala is sufficient. it is Not.

Regarding cleanliness, do you think any upasaka living in the cold countries are

denied reality because they cannot follow chowcham and other body cleanliness

owing to environment. Unfortunately again and again people come back to the body

and mind sector, without taking efforts to cross the borders. I can emphatically

say that mind and body cleanliness should not be over emphasised, while they are

necessary for the upkeep of the body and mind in good condition. But that is not

a bar. I have seen great saints who do not take bath for several weeks but still

smell so nice and divine.

Let people not mistake me for the above opinion, as I want to ensure that every

one of us progress in the right path and way.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

: kramach: Fri, 23 May 2008

13:30:32 -0400Re: Re: Cleanliness and Lalita Japam

 

 

 

 

Shri Gurubhyo NamahYes, absolutely. bAlA is considered as sufficient to recite

LS as a parayanam.Thanks.KRShri Maathre Namah-

Satish Friday, May 23, 2008 8:08 AMSubject:

Re: Cleanliness and Lalita Japam , Gopi

<antarurjas wrote:>> My specific doubt is especially when the Guru himself

>says initiation into panchadasi is not required to recite LS, if you >have

bAlA, then what does one do. Isnt it said that bAlA is enough to start LS

recital?

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

I was told that the dakShiNAmUrti saMhita has a statement saying that

either bAlA is enough to start LS recital or that bAlA is enogh.

 

Did not see the shloka myself but i would count on tradition here.

 

Additionally isnt bAlA looked upon as some sort of mini/little

shrIvidyA?

 

Not being a shrIvidya upAsaka myself, I will leave rest of experts on

the list.

 

>>I can emphatically say that mind and body cleanliness should not be

over emphasised, while they are necessary for the upkeep of the body

and mind in good condition. But that is not a bar. I have seen great

saints who do not take bath for several weeks but still smell so nice

and divine.<<

 

i am sure many people will agree with you here. But we are discussing

these with respect to normal people and not siddha purusha-s.

Furthermore, the notions of soucha, asoucha etc are being discussed

with respect to our traditions. While they may be far superior when

compared to rest of pagan traditions, Indic traditions are not the

only way to grasp reality or to live happily. The west has their own

pagan traditions.

 

Regards

 

, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Divine,

> Please read the phals stuthi of Lalitha Sahasranama and it clearly

says that one should have panchadasi before reciting lalitha

sahasranama and trisathi. If this is not done the yoginis curse the

upasaka. Please do not misguide people by telling them that Bala is

sufficient. it is Not.

> Regarding cleanliness, do you think any upasaka living in the cold

countries are denied reality because they cannot follow chowcham and

other body cleanliness owing to environment.

[Guest guest]

satish,

 

not initiated in srividya, how can comment on others.

 

sriram

 

Satish <satisharigela wrote:

Namaste,

 

I was told that the dakShiNAmUrti saMhita has a statement saying that

either bAlA is enough to start LS recital or that bAlA is enogh.

 

Did not see the shloka myself but i would count on tradition here.

 

Additionally isnt bAlA looked upon as some sort of mini/little

shrIvidyA?

 

Not being a shrIvidya upAsaka myself, I will leave rest of experts on

the list.

 

>>I can emphatically say that mind and body cleanliness should not be

over emphasised, while they are necessary for the upkeep of the body

and mind in good condition. But that is not a bar. I have seen great

saints who do not take bath for several weeks but still smell so nice

and divine.<<

 

i am sure many people will agree with you here. But we are discussing

these with respect to normal people and not siddha purusha-s.

Furthermore, the notions of soucha, asoucha etc are being discussed

with respect to our traditions. While they may be far superior when

compared to rest of pagan traditions, Indic traditions are not the

only way to grasp reality or to live happily. The west has their own

pagan traditions.

 

Regards

 

, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Divine,

> Please read the phals stuthi of Lalitha Sahasranama and it clearly

says that one should have panchadasi before reciting lalitha

sahasranama and trisathi. If this is not done the yoginis curse the

upasaka. Please do not misguide people by telling them that Bala is

sufficient. it is Not.

> Regarding cleanliness, do you think any upasaka living in the cold

countries are denied reality because they cannot follow chowcham and

other body cleanliness owing to environment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Shrii Gurubhyo namah:

 

Dear Friend:

 

Please do read the uttara and purva bhaagams very carefully again,

and understand exactly what they say.

Then read them again and understand them in the totality.

Perhaps you will reach a different conclusion.

I am not alone in this assertion that bAlA is sufficient for LS.

Therefore, I do not believe I am misguiding anyone.

 

Respectfully.

KR.

 

Shrii Maathre Namah.