Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Devotees, The concept of feminine principle is found in some of the rig vedic suktas like Nasadiya, Asyavaamasya, Devi, Ratri, Durga, Sri, Medha, Saraswati etc. Nasadiya Suktam, which is a marvelous hymn, is found in 10th mandala of Rig Veda. It is the 129th hymn which is called “Hymn of Creation”. The seer or mantra drashta of this hymn is Parameshti Prajapathi. It starts with mantra “Nasadaaseenno…..” and hence called Nasadiya Suktam. The hymn mentions quite clearly that that which " exists " before the beginning is neither Being nor non-Being. In later monistic philosophy, that which is neither Being nor non-Being is referred to as Nirguna Brahman (in Vedanta) or Paramashiva (in Tantra), and the individual Atman is equated with that essential Ultimate Reality. This sukta says that there existed a “breath which breathed breathlessly”. The entire concept of cosmology is squeezed in this Sukta. It starts with “Not the Non-existent existed No the Existent Existed” ( “na asat asit na u sat asit tadanim”). Tantra takes this concept of Creation from this Rig Vedic Nasadiya Suktam. And thus evolved different schools. The concept of Spanda or Throb finds its origin from this suktam. Advaita and Shakta school took a cue from this Rig Vedic Suktam. Shakta school went a step ahead and took another wonderful Rig Vedic Sukta into its stride which is called “asyavaamasya suktam”. This suktam commences with “asya vaamasya……” and hence it is called “asyavaamasya suktam”. This suktam is pregnant with concept of Srividya and Shakti principle. Apart from these above two suktas in Rig Veda we can find Sri Suktam, Durga Suktam, Saraswathi Suktam, Medha Suktam, Devi Suktam, Ratri Suktam where the Feminine Principle is found. With regards, sriram Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Dear Sriram, The feminine principles of devI, rAtri,durga, sri, medha, saraswati are very clear. Could you provide some light on the shaktha interpretation of asya vAmIya sUktam? it is predominantly masculine with the presiding deities being Aditya, sUrya and sAraswat all synonyms there are references to vak devi which ties it to rAtri sUktam but the underlying thread through out is sUryanArAyaNa and the secondry deity is suparna (garutaman) for example in sarasvantam avase johavImi etc.. regards vishwam venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:30:03 AM Nasadiya and asyavaamasya sukta of rig veda Devotees, The concept of feminine principle is found in some of the rig vedic suktas like Nasadiya, Asyavaamasya, Devi, Ratri, Durga, Sri, Medha, Saraswati etc. Nasadiya Suktam, which is a marvelous hymn, is found in 10th mandala of Rig Veda. It is the 129th hymn which is called “Hymn of Creation”. The seer or mantra drashta of this hymn is Parameshti Prajapathi. It starts with mantra “Nasadaaseenno… ..” and hence called Nasadiya Suktam. The hymn mentions quite clearly that that which " exists " before the beginning is neither Being nor non-Being. In later monistic philosophy, that which is neither Being nor non-Being is referred to as Nirguna Brahman (in Vedanta) or Paramashiva (in Tantra), and the individual Atman is equated with that essential Ultimate Reality. This sukta says that there existed a “breath which breathed breathlessly” . The entire concept of cosmology is squeezed in this Sukta. It starts with “Not the Non-existent existed No the Existent Existed” ( “na asat asit na u sat asit tadanim”). Tantra takes this concept of Creation from this Rig Vedic Nasadiya Suktam. And thus evolved different schools. The concept of Spanda or Throb finds its origin from this suktam. Advaita and Shakta school took a cue from this Rig Vedic Suktam. Shakta school went a step ahead and took another wonderful Rig Vedic Sukta into its stride which is called “asyavaamasya suktam”. This suktam commences with “asya vaamasya……” and hence it is called “asyavaamasya suktam”. This suktam is pregnant with concept of Srividya and Shakti principle. Apart from these above two suktas in Rig Veda we can find Sri Suktam, Durga Suktam, Saraswathi Suktam, Medha Suktam, Devi Suktam, Ratri Suktam where the Feminine Principle is found. With regards, sriram ------------ --------- --------- --- Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Dear Krishnamurthy, I will give you the secrets and commentary of Asyavaamasya suktam by this weekend as I am on official tour for couple of days. I would give a personal mail regarding this marvelous sukta since this is a public forum and the secrets of this suktha is not to be revealed to everyone. Srividyaranya Tirtha has cursorily given the literal meanings but intentionally skipped some of the srividya aspects leaving the job to the guru parampara. Asyavaamasya suktam is the most wonderful and marvelous suktam among all the suktam of Rig Veda. And it is also the largest of all suktams having 54 mantras. Considered to be most powerful among all the Rg Vedic Prayogas. It is enough if one carries out the abhisheka to sriyantra with Asyavaamasya, Nasadiya, Devi, Ratri, Sri and Durga Suktams with proper intonations and proper understanding of Rishi Hridaya. With the asyavaamasya and nasadiya suktas one carry out the entire worship of Sriyantra WITHOUT MUDRAS AND NYASAS. But one must learn the essence or the secrets of these two suktas duly from a Rig Vedic Scholar or Srividya Scholar who is initiated in the secrets of these 2 suktams. Three people Shri Anantarama Shastry Ghanekar, Shri Narendra Kapre and Shri Sitaram Shukla initiated my gurunatha into the prayogas of this wonderful suktam. Out of these three, Ghanekarji and Shri Kapre belonged to Rg Veda and Sri Shukla Maharaj as he is usually addressed is from Yajurveda community. Shri Ghanekarji, a Sanskrit Scholar at Banaras Hindu University, Varanasi, later on shifted to Sanskrit College, Gwalior, a contemporary of Shri Madan Mohan Malaviya, initiated my gurunatha into the secrets of asyavaamasya prayogas. Shri Kapreji, a rig vedic scholar and srividyopasaka near Charminar, Old City, Hyderabad, performs the Sriyantra Puja with this Asyavaamasya and Nasadiya Suktams. Shri Sitaraam Shukla, a descendant of Shri Shivadutta Shukla (guru of sri Bhaskararaya) was a great srividya and vanadurga upasaka. He handed over the Vanadurga and Kiraata Varahi Kalpa to Shri Gurunatha. So, bound by the guru vakya, I would not post this mail in this forum. I would give a personal mail to you regarding the secrets of asyavaamasya suktam. With regards, Sriram vishwanthan Krishnamoorthy <krishvishy wrote: Dear Sriram, The feminine principles of devI, rAtri,durga, sri, medha, saraswati are very clear. Could you provide some light on the shaktha interpretation of asya vAmIya sUktam? it is predominantly masculine with the presiding deities being Aditya, sUrya and sAraswat all synonyms there are references to vak devi which ties it to rAtri sUktam but the underlying thread through out is sUryanArAyaNa and the secondry deity is suparna (garutaman) for example in sarasvantam avase johavImi etc.. regards vishwam venkata sriram Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:30:03 AM Nasadiya and asyavaamasya sukta of rig veda Devotees, The concept of feminine principle is found in some of the rig vedic suktas like Nasadiya, Asyavaamasya, Devi, Ratri, Durga, Sri, Medha, Saraswati etc. Nasadiya Suktam, which is a marvelous hymn, is found in 10th mandala of Rig Veda. It is the 129th hymn which is called “Hymn of Creation”. The seer or mantra drashta of this hymn is Parameshti Prajapathi. It starts with mantra “Nasadaaseenno… ..” and hence called Nasadiya Suktam. The hymn mentions quite clearly that that which " exists " before the beginning is neither Being nor non-Being. In later monistic philosophy, that which is neither Being nor non-Being is referred to as Nirguna Brahman (in Vedanta) or Paramashiva (in Tantra), and the individual Atman is equated with that essential Ultimate Reality. This sukta says that there existed a “breath which breathed breathlessly” . The entire concept of cosmology is squeezed in this Sukta. It starts with “Not the Non-existent existed No the Existent Existed” ( “na asat asit na u sat asit tadanim”). Tantra takes this concept of Creation from this Rig Vedic Nasadiya Suktam. And thus evolved different schools. The concept of Spanda or Throb finds its origin from this suktam. Advaita and Shakta school took a cue from this Rig Vedic Suktam. Shakta school went a step ahead and took another wonderful Rig Vedic Sukta into its stride which is called “asyavaamasya suktam”. This suktam commences with “asya vaamasya……” and hence it is called “asyavaamasya suktam”. This suktam is pregnant with concept of Srividya and Shakti principle. Apart from these above two suktas in Rig Veda we can find Sri Suktam, Durga Suktam, Saraswathi Suktam, Medha Suktam, Devi Suktam, Ratri Suktam where the Feminine Principle is found. With regards, sriram ------------ --------- --------- --- Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Dear Sriram, I am Ramanan and interested in this as well. my e mail id is ram4rs. can u pls enlighten me on this and more as well, please? thanks venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi Monday, June 2, 2008 11:13:48 AM Re: Nasadiya and asyavaamasya sukta of rig veda Dear Krishnamurthy, I will give you the secrets and commentary of Asyavaamasya suktam by this weekend as I am on official tour for couple of days. I would give a personal mail regarding this marvelous sukta since this is a public forum and the secrets of this suktha is not to be revealed to everyone. Srividyaranya Tirtha has cursorily given the literal meanings but intentionally skipped some of the srividya aspects leaving the job to the guru parampara. Asyavaamasya suktam is the most wonderful and marvelous suktam among all the suktam of Rig Veda. And it is also the largest of all suktams having 54 mantras. Considered to be most powerful among all the Rg Vedic Prayogas. It is enough if one carries out the abhisheka to sriyantra with Asyavaamasya, Nasadiya, Devi, Ratri, Sri and Durga Suktams with proper intonations and proper understanding of Rishi Hridaya. With the asyavaamasya and nasadiya suktas one carry out the entire worship of Sriyantra WITHOUT MUDRAS AND NYASAS. But one must learn the essence or the secrets of these two suktas duly from a Rig Vedic Scholar or Srividya Scholar who is initiated in the secrets of these 2 suktams. Three people Shri Anantarama Shastry Ghanekar, Shri Narendra Kapre and Shri Sitaram Shukla initiated my gurunatha into the prayogas of this wonderful suktam. Out of these three, Ghanekarji and Shri Kapre belonged to Rg Veda and Sri Shukla Maharaj as he is usually addressed is from Yajurveda community. Shri Ghanekarji, a Sanskrit Scholar at Banaras Hindu University, Varanasi, later on shifted to Sanskrit College, Gwalior, a contemporary of Shri Madan Mohan Malaviya, initiated my gurunatha into the secrets of asyavaamasya prayogas. Shri Kapreji, a rig vedic scholar and srividyopasaka near Charminar, Old City, Hyderabad, performs the Sriyantra Puja with this Asyavaamasya and Nasadiya Suktams. Shri Sitaraam Shukla, a descendant of Shri Shivadutta Shukla (guru of sri Bhaskararaya) was a great srividya and vanadurga upasaka. He handed over the Vanadurga and Kiraata Varahi Kalpa to Shri Gurunatha. So, bound by the guru vakya, I would not post this mail in this forum. I would give a personal mail to you regarding the secrets of asyavaamasya suktam. With regards, Sriram vishwanthan Krishnamoorthy <krishvishy > wrote: Dear Sriram, The feminine principles of devI, rAtri,durga, sri, medha, saraswati are very clear. Could you provide some light on the shaktha interpretation of asya vAmIya sUktam? it is predominantly masculine with the presiding deities being Aditya, sUrya and sAraswat all synonyms there are references to vak devi which ties it to rAtri sUktam but the underlying thread through out is sUryanArAyaNa and the secondry deity is suparna (garutaman) for example in sarasvantam avase johavImi etc.. regards vishwam venkata sriram @ .com Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:30:03 AM Nasadiya and asyavaamasya sukta of rig veda Devotees, The concept of feminine principle is found in some of the rig vedic suktas like Nasadiya, Asyavaamasya, Devi, Ratri, Durga, Sri, Medha, Saraswati etc. Nasadiya Suktam, which is a marvelous hymn, is found in 10th mandala of Rig Veda. It is the 129th hymn which is called “Hymn of Creation”. The seer or mantra drashta of this hymn is Parameshti Prajapathi. It starts with mantra “Nasadaaseenno… ..” and hence called Nasadiya Suktam. The hymn mentions quite clearly that that which " exists " before the beginning is neither Being nor non-Being. In later monistic philosophy, that which is neither Being nor non-Being is referred to as Nirguna Brahman (in Vedanta) or Paramashiva (in Tantra), and the individual Atman is equated with that essential Ultimate Reality. This sukta says that there existed a “breath which breathed breathlessly” . The entire concept of cosmology is squeezed in this Sukta. It starts with “Not the Non-existent existed No the Existent Existed” ( “na asat asit na u sat asit tadanim”). Tantra takes this concept of Creation from this Rig Vedic Nasadiya Suktam. And thus evolved different schools. The concept of Spanda or Throb finds its origin from this suktam. Advaita and Shakta school took a cue from this Rig Vedic Suktam. Shakta school went a step ahead and took another wonderful Rig Vedic Sukta into its stride which is called “asyavaamasya suktam”. This suktam commences with “asya vaamasya……” and hence it is called “asyavaamasya suktam”. This suktam is pregnant with concept of Srividya and Shakti principle. Apart from these above two suktas in Rig Veda we can find Sri Suktam, Durga Suktam, Saraswathi Suktam, Medha Suktam, Devi Suktam, Ratri Suktam where the Feminine Principle is found. With regards, sriram ------------ --------- --------- --- Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Raman, Sorry, i donot know your background. But i would throw some light on one of the the famous rks. Apart from several rks in this Suktam, there is one famous rik which everyone knows. This is " gaurih mimaya salilaani...sahasraakshara parame vyoman " . So, one can understand the deep significance of this asyavaamasya suktam. The " akshare parame vyoman " is the Vak (The Speech) which i explained in my earlier mails. This rik is also found in taittiriya brahmana, aranyaka, atharvaveda. But the moola is in rg veda. Entire upasana of Vak is mentioned in this suktam with its 4 stages or levels. You can contemplate on it. For further reference on Vak, please study Devi Suktam of Rg Veda. regs sriram , Ramanan And Sharadha ramanan <sharadha_ramanan wrote: > > Dear Sriram, > I am Ramanan and interested in this as well. my e mail id is ram4rs can u pls enlighten me on this and more as well, please? > thanks > > > > > venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi > > Monday, June 2, 2008 11:13:48 AM > Re: Nasadiya and asyavaamasya sukta of rig veda > > > Dear Krishnamurthy, > > I will give you the secrets and commentary of Asyavaamasya suktam by this weekend as I am on official tour for couple of days. I would give a personal mail regarding this marvelous sukta since this is a public forum and the secrets of this suktha is not to be revealed to everyone. Srividyaranya Tirtha has cursorily given the literal meanings but intentionally skipped some of the srividya aspects leaving the job to the guru parampara. > > Asyavaamasya suktam is the most wonderful and marvelous suktam among all the suktam of Rig Veda. And it is also the largest of all suktams having 54 mantras. Considered to be most powerful among all the Rg Vedic Prayogas. It is enough if one carries out the abhisheka to sriyantra with Asyavaamasya, Nasadiya, Devi, Ratri, Sri and Durga Suktams with proper intonations and proper understanding of Rishi Hridaya. > > With the asyavaamasya and nasadiya suktas one carry out the entire worship of Sriyantra WITHOUT MUDRAS AND NYASAS. But one must learn the essence or the secrets of these two suktas duly from a Rig Vedic Scholar or Srividya Scholar who is initiated in the secrets of these 2 suktams. > > Three people Shri Anantarama Shastry Ghanekar, Shri Narendra Kapre and Shri Sitaram Shukla initiated my gurunatha into the prayogas of this wonderful suktam. Out of these three, Ghanekarji and Shri Kapre belonged to Rg Veda and Sri Shukla Maharaj as he is usually addressed is from Yajurveda community. Shri Ghanekarji, a Sanskrit Scholar at Banaras Hindu University, Varanasi, later on shifted to Sanskrit College, Gwalior, a contemporary of Shri Madan Mohan Malaviya, initiated my gurunatha into the secrets of asyavaamasya prayogas. Shri Kapreji, a rig vedic scholar and srividyopasaka near Charminar, Old City, Hyderabad, performs the Sriyantra Puja with this Asyavaamasya and Nasadiya Suktams. Shri Sitaraam Shukla, a descendant of Shri Shivadutta Shukla (guru of sri Bhaskararaya) was a great srividya and vanadurga upasaka. He handed over the Vanadurga and Kiraata Varahi Kalpa to Shri Gurunatha. > > So, bound by the guru vakya, I would not post this mail in this forum. I would give a personal mail to you regarding the secrets of asyavaamasya suktam. > > With regards, > Sriram > > > vishwanthan Krishnamoorthy <krishvishy > wrote: Dear Sriram, > > The feminine principles of devI, rAtri,durga, sri, medha, saraswati are very clear. > > Could you provide some light on the shaktha interpretation of asya vAmIya sUktam? > it is predominantly masculine with the presiding deities being Aditya, sUrya and sAraswat all synonyms > > there are references to vak devi which ties it to rAtri sUktam but the underlying thread through out is sUryanArAyaNa and the secondry deity is suparna (garutaman) > > for example in sarasvantam avase johavImi etc.. > > regards > vishwam > > > venkata sriram > @ .com > Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:30:03 AM > Nasadiya and asyavaamasya sukta of rig veda > > Devotees, > > The concept of feminine principle is found in some of the rig vedic suktas like Nasadiya, Asyavaamasya, Devi, Ratri, Durga, Sri, Medha, Saraswati etc. > > Nasadiya Suktam, which is a marvelous hymn, is found in 10th mandala of Rig Veda. It is the 129th hymn which is called " Hymn of Creation " . The seer or mantra drashta of this hymn is Parameshti Prajapathi. It starts with mantra " Nasadaaseenno… .. " and hence called Nasadiya Suktam. > > The hymn mentions quite clearly that that which " exists " before the beginning is neither Being nor non-Being. In later monistic philosophy, that which is neither Being nor non-Being is referred to as Nirguna Brahman (in Vedanta) or Paramashiva (in Tantra), and the individual Atman is equated with that essential Ultimate Reality. This sukta says that there existed a " breath which breathed breathlessly " . The entire concept of cosmology is squeezed in this Sukta. It starts with " Not the Non-existent existed No the Existent Existed " ( " na asat asit na u sat asit tadanim " ). Tantra takes this concept of Creation from this Rig Vedic Nasadiya Suktam. And thus evolved different schools. The concept of Spanda or Throb finds its origin from this suktam. Advaita and Shakta school took a cue from this Rig Vedic Suktam. > > Shakta school went a step ahead and took another wonderful Rig Vedic Sukta into its stride which is called " asyavaamasya suktam " . This suktam commences with " asya vaamasya…… " and hence it is called " asyavaamasya suktam " . This suktam is pregnant with concept of Srividya and Shakti principle. > > Apart from these above two suktas in Rig Veda we can find Sri Suktam, Durga Suktam, Saraswathi Suktam, Medha Suktam, Devi Suktam, Ratri Suktam where the Feminine Principle is found. > > With regards, > sriram > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Dear krishnamurthy, Su-parna is the divine splendour of Vak which is " rucho akshare parame vyoman " . Though identified with Garutman which is the giver of delight in the form of Soma. This is the splendour of the Sun Supreme. chatvaari vak parimita padani taani vidurbraahmana ye manishinaha guha trini............sa suparno garutmaan. .......Rg Veda (asya vamasya suktam) Moreover, there is also a sahasrakshara vidya in this suktam. Garuda is identified with Pranava Swarupa. Shankara Bhagavatpada explaining the Garuda tattva says Garuda is Pranava while Vishnu alighting the Garuda implies that " he is known through the Pranava Tattva " . With regards, Sriram vishwanthan Krishnamoorthy <krishvishy wrote: Dear Sriram, The feminine principles of devI, rAtri,durga, sri, medha, saraswati are very clear. Could you provide some light on the shaktha interpretation of asya vAmIya sUktam? it is predominantly masculine with the presiding deities being Aditya, sUrya and sAraswat all synonyms there are references to vak devi which ties it to rAtri sUktam but the underlying thread through out is sUryanArAyaNa and the secondry deity is suparna (garutaman) for example in sarasvantam avase johavImi etc.. regards vishwam venkata sriram Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:30:03 AM Nasadiya and asyavaamasya sukta of rig veda Devotees, The concept of feminine principle is found in some of the rig vedic suktas like Nasadiya, Asyavaamasya, Devi, Ratri, Durga, Sri, Medha, Saraswati etc. Nasadiya Suktam, which is a marvelous hymn, is found in 10th mandala of Rig Veda. It is the 129th hymn which is called “Hymn of Creation”. The seer or mantra drashta of this hymn is Parameshti Prajapathi. It starts with mantra “Nasadaaseenno… ..” and hence called Nasadiya Suktam. The hymn mentions quite clearly that that which " exists " before the beginning is neither Being nor non-Being. In later monistic philosophy, that which is neither Being nor non-Being is referred to as Nirguna Brahman (in Vedanta) or Paramashiva (in Tantra), and the individual Atman is equated with that essential Ultimate Reality. This sukta says that there existed a “breath which breathed breathlessly” . The entire concept of cosmology is squeezed in this Sukta. It starts with “Not the Non-existent existed No the Existent Existed” ( “na asat asit na u sat asit tadanim”). Tantra takes this concept of Creation from this Rig Vedic Nasadiya Suktam. And thus evolved different schools. The concept of Spanda or Throb finds its origin from this suktam. Advaita and Shakta school took a cue from this Rig Vedic Suktam. Shakta school went a step ahead and took another wonderful Rig Vedic Sukta into its stride which is called “asyavaamasya suktam”. This suktam commences with “asya vaamasya……” and hence it is called “asyavaamasya suktam”. This suktam is pregnant with concept of Srividya and Shakti principle. Apart from these above two suktas in Rig Veda we can find Sri Suktam, Durga Suktam, Saraswathi Suktam, Medha Suktam, Devi Suktam, Ratri Suktam where the Feminine Principle is found. With regards, sriram ------------ --------- --------- --- Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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