help needed

[Guest guest]

Dear Learned members of the Ambaa group,

i would like guidance as how to pray and worship Ambaa, Maa,Devi

or Shakthi.Because i think all forms are hers.

I have been reading interesting discussions in this group about the worship,

Guptatava etc etc.

I have been doing Lalitha Sahasra Nama Parayana for quiet some time,

but not like sadhaka.In Andhra Pardesh now a days many women sit together and do

this parayana as a group.

As far as i am concerned it would emanate divine or good vibrations.That's what

is my actual intention also.

Not with any speacific intention or for siddhi's.

I would like to know how far is it right and do i need to follow any speacific

procedure etc etc..

I started a group with some of my girl friends here in Canberra and we do

Lalitha Sahasranama Parayana and Vishnu Sahasranama Parayana

on a weekly basis. Again after Lallitha we just chant Lingastakam and before

Vishnu we read Devi Ashthottaram.

So could the learned members please tell me if this all right and if i need to

offer any specific prasadam etc?

 

 

Thanks and Regards

 

Aruna Gillkum

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Respected Aruna,

 

Namaste.

 

These evolutions of ‘lalitha mandalis’ is a recent trend from the past 10

years in Andhra and elsewhere. I donot know how far the devotional temperament

is maintained, but most of the mandalis I have visited here in Hyderabad are

more or less a lame excuse for frequent ‘get-togethers’ to discuss the

recent fashion trends and harassment of their daughter-in-laws.

 

Utmost care should be taken in maintaining the spiritual atmosphere and

correct pronunciation and phonetics in mass parayanas. This has been a trend in

Sringeri Sankar Mutt at Hyderabad also and we were mute spectators of that. One

of elderly women of the Mandali was chanting the Lalitha Sahasranama in the

temple and rest of the women were emulating her and repeating the verses in

chorus. The LS Name “Duracharashamani†and “Doshavarjitha†were broken

in such a manner by the women as follows: “Durachara†“Shamanaiâ€,

“Dosha†, “Varjithaâ€. The meaning of entire name is changed and mother

is addressed as “Duraacharaâ€. The same was pointed to Shri Bharati Tirtha

Swamigal and he said “Mother save such peopleâ€.

 

Even Shri Swamigal had to succumb to certain pressures of these latest trends.

During His Chaturmaasya Vrata at Hyderabad in 1991, there was much fuss from

these Mandalis. It is a general practice that Gents should remove their shirts

and wear uttariyas and Ladies should wear traditional dress of Saris

(traditional half-saris in case of unmarried) while taking the tirtha of

Chandramouliswara Puja. One lady was wearing the Jeans and when Swamigal

objected to this she raised hue and cry over this issue. And finally Swamigal

had to give the tirtha to this lady who by the time gathered some of the

feminists and politicians for protest.

 

ANY ADVICE GIVEN IS WRONGLY TAKEN AND IS BEING SNUBBED AS “BRAHMIN

DOMINATIONâ€. THOUGH PEOPLE SHOULD CHANGE AS PER THE CHANGING TIMES AND TRENDS

BUT TRADITION SHOULD BE RESPECTED.

 

Now that you have started the Lalitha Sahasranama Parayana, I would not

discourage you neither would I asked you to stop it. But, please ensure the

proper pronunciation and phonetics. If possible, chant before an advanced

upasaka who is well versed in Sanskrit and get yourself corrected the doshas, if

any.

 

SO, PROPER CARE SHOULD BE TAKEN IN THE PHONETICS AND PRONUNCIATION DURING THE

MASS PARAYANAS OF LALITHA SAHASRANAMA. I WOULD ADVICE RATHER TO DO THE PARAYANA

OF SAUNDARYALAHARI RATHER THAN LS WHICH IS A MANTRA SASTRA.

 

As regards the Naivedya, Pulihora / Dadyojana / Sweet Pongal / Rice Porridge

can be offered and the same could be distributed to the Sumangalis as Prasada.

After the distribution of Prasada, do offer small sachets of Turmeric and

Kumkuma alongwith Plaintains as Tambula to the Sumangalis present.

 

With regards,

Sriram

 

 

aruna behara <aruna_behara22 wrote: Dear Learned members

of the Ambaa group,

i would like guidance as how to pray and worship Ambaa, Maa,Devi

or Shakthi.Because i think all forms are hers.

I have been reading interesting discussions in this group about the worship,

Guptatava etc etc.

I have been doing Lalitha Sahasra Nama Parayana for quiet some time,

but not like sadhaka.In Andhra Pardesh now a days many women sit together and do

this parayana as a group.

As far as i am concerned it would emanate divine or good vibrations.That's what

is my actual intention also.

Not with any speacific intention or for siddhi's.

I would like to know how far is it right and do i need to follow any speacific

procedure etc etc..

I started a group with some of my girl friends here in Canberra and we do

Lalitha Sahasranama Parayana and Vishnu Sahasranama Parayana

on a weekly basis. Again after Lallitha we just chant Lingastakam and before

Vishnu we read Devi Ashthottaram.

So could the learned members please tell me if this all right and if i need to

offer any specific prasadam etc?

 

Thanks and Regards

 

Aruna Gillkum

 

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[Guest guest]

Respected sir,

 

thank you very much for the reply and explaining in detail with example.

yes ofcourse i have seen such groups while i was in india and that's why i have

discouraged people to have get together kind of thing with prasadams, etc.the

only reason i told them we should do parayanam is to create and spread some good

vibrations.

As you have pointed out that we should chant in front of someone who knows it

properly and get corrected? do you know of anyone in india and abroad?and will

they let us do without any proper initiation? does Laitha Sahasranama Parayanam

need any initiation from guru's?

and what about the audio of lalaitha sahasranamam available in markts? are they

pronounced correctly?

Or may be i can do Soundarya Lahari parayanam instead as you pointed out until i

get proper guidance.

Thank you very much sir.

 

 

--- On Mon, 14/7/08, venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:

venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi

Re: help needed

 

Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:45 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Aruna,

[Guest guest]

Seriously, why should one be bent on doing something which is clearly

prohibited?

 

Why not say viShNu sahasranAma or other devI sahasranAma-s? See

/message/2250

The lakShMI sahasranAma is excellent IMO.

 

As one member commented before, if one is so inclined they may say LS

with the attitude that they are reciting a part of brahmANDa purANa

and not with the saMkalpa of reciting LS as a mAlA mantra.

 

Feminist scum(those particularly intent of disturbing our traditions)

should be dealt with a different strategy.

 

 

, venkata sriram

<sriram_sapthasathi wrote:

>

> Respected Aruna,

>

> Namaste.

>

> These evolutions of ‘lalitha mandalis’ is a recent trend from

the past 10 years in Andhra and elsewhere. I donot know how far the

devotional temperament is maintained, but most of the mandalis I have

visited here in Hyderabad are more or less a lame excuse for frequent

‘get-togethers’ to discuss the recent fashion trends and

harassment of their daughter-in-laws.

>

> Utmost care should be taken in maintaining the spiritual

atmosphere and correct pronunciation and phonetics in mass

parayanas.

[Guest guest]

You need a GURU to initiate you & give mantropadesam for LALITADEVI PARAYANAM.

 

dr.p.r.k.prasad

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 7/14/08, aruna behara <aruna_behara22 wrote:

aruna behara <aruna_behara22

Re: help needed

 

Monday, July 14, 2008, 4:52 PM

 

 

 

Respected sir,

 

thank you very much for the reply and explaining in detail with example.

 

yes ofcourse i have seen such groups while i was in india and that's why i have

discouraged people to have get together kind of thing with prasadams, etc.the

only reason i told them we should do parayanam is to create and spread some good

vibrations.

 

As you have pointed out that we should chant in front of someone who knows it

properly and get corrected? do you know of anyone in india and abroad?and will

they let us do without any proper initiation? does Laitha Sahasranama Parayanam

need any initiation from guru's?

 

and what about the audio of lalaitha sahasranamam available in markts? are they

pronounced correctly?

 

Or may be i can do Soundarya Lahari parayanam instead as you pointed out until i

get proper guidance.

[Guest guest]

Dear Divine,

 

I am equally painted to see that it has become a business in Srividhya charging

so much for initiation, so much for panchadasi, bala and shadasi etc. Even

people who boast and advertise in media, are doing like this. They buy poor

people to say that this and that swamigi has so much power and they can do

anything to turn your life topsy turvey or total billionaire.

None is interested to follow the scriptures. For instant none of the

peetadhipathis even read the pha stuthi of Lalitha sahasranama, which clearly

prohibits anyone changing the same without panchadasi initiation.

Some years back I came across a group which was doing daily Lalitha sahasranam

parayana and done about 12 crore avarthis. Alas the devotees were found very

poor and had no good saree or even a asana to sit and do the parayana. When i

found they are not initiated, I initiated more than 300 people in one go and

made them fit for doing the parayana. Thereafter I found many of them had

improved both materially and spiritually, because when lalitha can have all the

facilities to enjoy, she bestows them on the devotees too, provided tey deserve

and quality themselves.

 

Whatever said and done, true upasakas should undertake to initiate those doing

lalitha sahasranama and trisathi without panchadasi minimum, so that they are

qualified and get benefitted.

 

I have done this to some groups and are ready to do it to any number of groups

without any money or even obligation, as according to me, once some one is

initiated by the Guru the atma sakthi of the guru and the initiated becomes one.

Where then is the question of obligations and limitations. However those who

could afford, I request them to contribute to temple renovation, feeding the

poor, or distributing vastras and food to the aged and poor children., according

to their capacity and I do not fix any quantum.

 

I can be contacted till 20th instant at ++91+44+24421420 and thereafter i will

be in USA for about 5-6 months in NJ - ++1+908+903+9222. Even in USA if some one

needs my help I am ready to do it. I will be visiting several places to conduct

Chandi/Srividhya homams and also meditation classes for all.

 

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

 

: aruna_behara22: Mon, 14 Jul

2008 16:52:23 +0530Re: help needed

 

 

 

 

Respected sir,thank you very much for the reply and explaining in detail with

example.yes ofcourse i have seen such groups while i was in india and that's why

i have discouraged people to have get together kind of thing with prasadams,

etc.the only reason i told them we should do parayanam is to create and spread

some good vibrations.As you have pointed out that we should chant in front of

someone who knows it properly and get corrected? do you know of anyone in india

and abroad?and will they let us do without any proper initiation? does Laitha

Sahasranama Parayanam need any initiation from guru's?and what about the audio

of lalaitha sahasranamam available in markts? are they pronounced correctly?Or

may be i can do Soundarya Lahari parayanam instead as you pointed out until i

get proper guidance.Thank you very much sir.--- On Mon, 14/7/08, venkata sriram

<sriram_sapthasathi wrote:venkata sriram

<sriram_sapthasathiRe: help neededTo:

: Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:45 AMRespected Aruna,

 

 

 

 

 

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