reg. the questions

[Guest guest]

namaste Shriram-ji,

I am certainly undeserving of your very respectful address to me.

About Haadi-upasana being tilted towards Vama I thought I would give

some details:

 

I read in SKR Rao's book that Hadividya is suitable for " those engaged

in black magic, sorcery and such other evil mechanizations (sic).

Householders are forbidden to adopt either Sadi or Hadi... "

 

I do not know where he got this characterization from. Obviously it is

from biased secondary source, but it is not an Hadi Sadhaka's view.

If you look at the early Hadimata Acharyas you will note that they

follow the Shrikula tradition which would be interpreted as " Vama "

because it breaks Smriti rules. Like in South India even in North

(Himachal, Kashmir, Panjab, Rajasthan) there was a gradual move

towards Smarta-type practice of Shrividya. These original Hadimata

Acharyas whom we mention in our preceptorial line cannot be considered

as true followers of Smriti but Kaula. My own family saw itself as

Dixitas in the Vedic sense and maintained Tretagni. They followed the

Laugakshi Smriti and there is no way this Smriti permitted certain

practices seen in the old Hadi system. However, I feel in the north

there was no strong sense of self-identification as Smarta in

opposition to others. Since their affiliation was primarily to

Laugakshi Smriti and performing rituals outlined in the Krishna

Yajurveda they did not adopt the old Hadi system completely when

initiated into Shrividya centuries ago. Instead it was something that

was completely compatible with the Smritis with NO vama elements. It

focussed on Bahya worship of Shrichakra with Hadi Shrividya mantra in

different forms, Tripurashekhara mantra, Shyamala and Varahi. There

also is the Ahnika Krama which is influenced by the Dashamahavidya

tradition: Adyakali to Bagalamukhi over the day.

 

Moreover we also followed the Tirtha Krama that is worshiping the

Large Chakra as covering a good part of Himachal Pradesh (as

historically conceived not the modern state, now parts are in Panjab)

by performing Japa of different mantras in different Tirthas like

Shimla for Mantrini, Baladevi at Trilokpur etc. Finally we go to

Naggar where we worship Hadividya Tripurasundari in an old temple of

this Goddess.

 

There is another big rite in Shukla Chaturti of Maghamasa called

Tripura Chaturthi. In this we worship Sharika with an extension of

Kadividya rather than Hadividya.It was also the day your parents gave

you Mantradixa.

 

Cheers

Rajita

[Guest guest]

: rajita_rajvasishth: Sat, 19 Jul

2008 16:46:43 +0000 Re: reg. the questions

 

 

 

 

namaste Shriram-ji,I am certainly undeserving of your very respectful address to

me.About Haadi-upasana being tilted towards Vama I thought I would givesome

details:I read in SKR Rao's book that Hadividya is suitable for " those engagedin

black magic, sorcery and such other evil mechanizations (sic).Householders are

forbidden to adopt either Sadi or Hadi... " I do not know where he got this

characterization from. Obviously it isfrom biased secondary source, but it is

not an Hadi Sadhaka's view.If you look at the early Hadimata Acharyas you will

note that theyfollow the Shrikula tradition which would be interpreted as

" Vama " because it breaks Smriti rules. Like in South India even in

North(Himachal, Kashmir, Panjab, Rajasthan) there was a gradual movetowards

Smarta-type practice of Shrividya. These original HadimataAcharyas whom we

mention in our preceptorial line cannot be consideredas true followers of Smriti

but Kaula. My own family saw itself asDixitas in the Vedic sense and maintained

Tretagni. They followed theLaugakshi Smriti and there is no way this Smriti

permitted certainpractices seen in the old Hadi system. However, I feel in the

norththere was no strong sense of self-identification as Smarta inopposition to

others. Since their affiliation was primarily toLaugakshi Smriti and performing

rituals outlined in the KrishnaYajurveda they did not adopt the old Hadi system

completely wheninitiated into Shrividya centuries ago. Instead it was something

thatwas completely compatible with the Smritis with NO vama elements. Itfocussed

on Bahya worship of Shrichakra with Hadi Shrividya mantra indifferent forms,

Tripurashekhara mantra, Shyamala and Varahi. Therealso is the Ahnika Krama which

is influenced by the Dashamahavidyatradition: Adyakali to Bagalamukhi over the

day. Moreover we also followed the Tirtha Krama that is worshiping theLarge

Chakra as covering a good part of Himachal Pradesh (ashistorically conceived not

the modern state, now parts are in Panjab)by performing Japa of different

mantras in different Tirthas likeShimla for Mantrini, Baladevi at Trilokpur etc.

Finally we go toNaggar where we worship Hadividya Tripurasundari in an old

temple ofthis Goddess. There is another big rite in Shukla Chaturti of Maghamasa

calledTripura Chaturthi. In this we worship Sharika with an extension

ofKadividya rather than Hadividya.It was also the day your parents gaveyou

Mantradixa.CheersRajita

 

 

 

 

 

I am totally amazed to read all sorts of comments. The various methods adopted

represent the individuals route for achievement. Totally srividhya is for athma

and that is why it is called athma vidhya. I do not think any one can use the

srividhya mantras for prayoga either for good or bad, because if there are any

such application, then the concerned devatha cannot be considered as God.

Goddess Maha Tripurasundari is without blemish and only those totally pure in

thought, deed and action, without expecting any results whatsoever, can merge

with her.

Sorry to say, we are only wasting our precious time in entering into such

unnecessary arguments which will spoil the thinking of the devotees and spoil

their trust, and good faith in divine energy.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

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[Guest guest]

Respected rajitha,

 

Prostrations at your feet. Thanks a lot for your valuable

information.

 

As regards Haadi krama, i would like to mention that most of the

gurus belonging to siddhougha and manavougha gurumandala of

Khadgamala were haadi vidya upasakas (including dipakanathacharya

and dharmacharya).

 

Now, what exactly is vama with Haadi vidya i donot know (may be

because in the krama diksha of haadi Kali, tara, bagala, chinnamasta

are initiated). But, in the 1st kuta itself of haadi, the

anusandhana of chit kala at daharakasa is contemplated which is

verily the samaya path.

 

And the adage that " vidyaanaam kaadiruthaama " is said because the

shodashi prastharas alongwith Mahapaduka and Nirvana Sundari Mantra

are possible only in Kaadi.

 

Infact, a great upasaka of Haadi vidya (Shriyanandanatha of Andhra

Pradesh) in his translation work of saundaryalahari mentions that

Acharya Sankara was haadi vidya upasaka (my opinion is different).

My opinion is different because ff sankara was haadi vidya upasaka,

then why amnaaya pitas are propagating kaadi (including sringeri).

 

It needs a special mention that though Sringeri propagates Kaadi, HH

Abhinava Vidya Tirtha swamigal personally initiated into Haadi vidya

to Shri Vadarevu Subramanya Sastrigal of Vedurupaka. Since, Sringeri

is mula amnaaya pita and all the pitaadhipatis are jagatgurus,

depending upon the taste of upasakas, they have every right of

initiating any vidya which conforms to sruti and smriti.

 

With regards,

sriram

 

 

, " rajita_rajvasishth "

<rajita_rajvasishth wrote:

>

> namaste Shriram-ji,

> I am certainly undeserving of your very respectful address to me.

> About Haadi-upasana being tilted towards Vama I thought I would

give

> some details:

>

> I read in SKR Rao's book that Hadividya is suitable for " those

engaged

> in black magic, sorcery and such other evil mechanizations (sic).

> Householders are forbidden to adopt either Sadi or Hadi... "

>

> I do not know where he got this characterization from. Obviously

it is

> from biased secondary source, but it is not an Hadi Sadhaka's

view.

> If you look at the early Hadimata Acharyas you will note that they

> follow the Shrikula tradition which would be interpreted as " Vama "

> because it breaks Smriti rules. Like in South India even in North

> (Himachal, Kashmir, Panjab, Rajasthan) there was a gradual move

> towards Smarta-type practice of Shrividya. These original Hadimata

> Acharyas whom we mention in our preceptorial line cannot be

considered

> as true followers of Smriti but Kaula. My own family saw itself as

> Dixitas in the Vedic sense and maintained Tretagni. They followed

the

> Laugakshi Smriti and there is no way this Smriti permitted certain

> practices seen in the old Hadi system. However, I feel in the north

> there was no strong sense of self-identification as Smarta in

> opposition to others. Since their affiliation was primarily to

> Laugakshi Smriti and performing rituals outlined in the Krishna

> Yajurveda they did not adopt the old Hadi system completely when

> initiated into Shrividya centuries ago. Instead it was something

that

> was completely compatible with the Smritis with NO vama elements.

It

> focussed on Bahya worship of Shrichakra with Hadi Shrividya mantra

in

> different forms, Tripurashekhara mantra, Shyamala and Varahi. There

> also is the Ahnika Krama which is influenced by the Dashamahavidya

> tradition: Adyakali to Bagalamukhi over the day.

>

> Moreover we also followed the Tirtha Krama that is worshiping the

> Large Chakra as covering a good part of Himachal Pradesh (as

> historically conceived not the modern state, now parts are in

Panjab)

> by performing Japa of different mantras in different Tirthas like

> Shimla for Mantrini, Baladevi at Trilokpur etc. Finally we go to

> Naggar where we worship Hadividya Tripurasundari in an old temple

of

> this Goddess.

>

> There is another big rite in Shukla Chaturti of Maghamasa called

> Tripura Chaturthi. In this we worship Sharika with an extension of

> Kadividya rather than Hadividya.It was also the day your parents

gave

> you Mantradixa.

>

> Cheers

> Rajita

>