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Dear Shkata Bandhu's,

                                    Let us

accept the truth and lookforward with rejoice.  I would like to understand from

any learner member with  authentication that what makes the Sri Guru to

Initiate his disciple ?. I mean searching for a Guru and accepting him is very

difficullt in the modern days. But my personal experience and Litrature says

that SriGuru searches his disciples and Initiates into the Srividya upasana

depending on the ability of the sadhaka.

 

What I want to understand is that What forces or makes it ? or To look for the

right disciple or how can one knows the disciple's inner quest for the truth.

How is the Moon, Jupiter, Ketu, Rahu's POSITIONS in jataka chakra effects the

upasana, I mean will these positions gives any clue of somebodys present kamra's

or previous karma's or UPASANAS. Will these grahas position can tell that any

Srividya Upasana?

 

with regards

Kameswara Rao

 

 

 

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Dear Kamesh,

 

For undertaking any mantra upasana, it is generally a good practice

to check one's horoscope and observe the mantra sthana along with

Siddha, Rina, Ari Chakras. But for me this seems to be TOO

MECHANICAL AND STEREOTYPED way of choosing one's deity. Choosing of

one's ishta devata should come naturally out of love, attachment,

emotion and affection.

 

For undertaking Srividya Upasana, one need not observe these details

of Siddha, Ari, Rina Chakras and Horoscope as it is Brahma Vidya.

 

As regards choosing one's Gurunatha, Sankara Bhagavatpada already

mentioned the necessary qualities.

 

THE GURU SHOULD BE OF GOOD CHARACTER, MANTRA SIDDHA, SHOULD OBSERVE

THE VEDIC RITUALS INCLUDING THE SHOUCHA KANDA. SHOULD PERFORM HIS

NITYA NAIMITTIKA KARMA KANDA. SHOULD BE WELL VERSED IN VEDA AND

DHARMA SASTRA. SHOULD BE ABLE TO GUIDE THE DISCIPLE WHENEVER ANY

HELP IS NEEDED.

 

INFACT TO CHOOSE A SRIVIDYA GURU, ONE SHOULD LOOK AT HIS LINEAGE ALSO

REGARDING PHYSICAL DEFORMITIES, HIS FAMILY TREE ETC. IF A GURU IS

GRIHASTHA, ONE SHOULD OBSERVE THE TRETAAGNI UPASANA (AHAVANIYA,

GARHAPATYA, DAKSHINA AGNIS). SHOULD HAVE CHILDREN OF GOOD CHARACTER

AND A DHARMA PATNI WHO IS SAADHVI.

 

As regards the Srividya Initiation, upasana DO NOT COME JUST LIKE

THAT if MOTHER DOES NOT WANT TO. It is the Divine Mother who is the

Deciding Factor. NOT YOU AND ME.

 

The Initiation comes when the Time is Ripe. Till then ONE HAS TO

WAIT.

 

IT IS ALSO THE DUTY OF THE DISCIPLE TO LOOK FOR THE GURUS OF ABOVE-

MENTIONED QUALITY. OR ELSE ONE IS BOUND TO GET THE GURUS LIKE

RAJANEESH, CHANDRASWAMI AND OTHER BABAS WHO HAVE SPROUTED LIKE

MUSHROOMS AROUND US FLEECING MONEY AND DOLLARS.

 

 

With regards

Sriram

 

 

, KAMESWARARAO MULA <kamesh_ccmb

wrote:

>

> Dear Shkata Bandhu's,

>

                                   

Let us accept the truth and lookforward with rejoice.  I would like

to understand from any learner member with  authentication that what

makes the Sri Guru to Initiate his disciple ?. I mean searching for a

Guru and accepting him is very difficullt in the modern days. But my

personal experience and Litrature says that SriGuru searches his

disciples and Initiates into the Srividya upasana depending on the

ability of the sadhaka.

>  

> What I want to understand is that What forces or makes it ? or To

look for the right disciple or how can one knows the

disciple's inner quest for the truth. How is the Moon, Jupiter,

Ketu, Rahu's POSITIONS in jataka chakra effects the upasana, I mean

will these positions gives any clue of somebodys present kamra's or

previous karma's or UPASANAS. Will these grahas position can tell

that any Srividya Upasana?

>  

> with regards

> Kameswara Rao

>

>

>

> Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/

>

>

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Respected Brother,

 

Such mushrooms are now proliferating like anything. Patience is a very

essential quality for the real seeker

You are correct. When the time is ripe, the initiation comes (even asareeri or

a dream sequence etc.,)

A real Guru has no need for a dakshina other than selfless love. Cultivation of

viveka is the need of the

hour. The real Guru is within.

 

With kind regards

 

jag

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sriram <sriram_sapthasathi

 

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 1:24:11 PM

Re: What makes to INITIATE ?

 

 

 

The Initiation comes when the Time is Ripe. Till then ONE HAS TO

WAIT.

 

IT IS ALSO THE DUTY OF THE DISCIPLE TO LOOK FOR THE GURUS OF ABOVE-

MENTIONED QUALITY. OR ELSE ONE IS BOUND TO GET THE GURUS LIKE

RAJANEESH, CHANDRASWAMI AND OTHER BABAS WHO HAVE SPROUTED LIKE

MUSHROOMS AROUND US FLEECING MONEY AND DOLLARS.

 

With regards

Sriram

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If you sit with a true upasaka you will find peace all around and your thoughts

are not there - a sort of a blankness. Then you can understand that he will be

your guru. However one has to study the capacities and capabilities of a guru

before accepting him. If you find that he is not upto your expectations and

cannot deliver brahmatwam then you can go to another suitable one.

SShangaranarayanan

 

 

 

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kamesh_ccmb: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:17:55 +0530

What makes to INITIATE ?

 

 

 

 

Dear Shkata Bandhu's, Let us accept the truth

and lookforward with rejoice. I would like to understand from any learner

member with authentication that what makes the Sri Guru to Initiate his

disciple ?. I mean searching for a Guru and accepting him is very difficullt in

the modern days. But my personal experience and Litrature says that SriGuru

searches his disciples and Initiates into the Srividya upasana depending on the

ability of the sadhaka. What I want to understand is that What forces or makes

it ? or To look for the right disciple or how can one knows the disciple's inner

quest for the truth. How is the Moon, Jupiter, Ketu, Rahu's POSITIONS in jataka

chakra effects the upasana, I mean will these positions gives any clue of

somebodys present kamra's or previous karma's or UPASANAS. Will these grahas

position can tell that any Srividya Upasana? with regardsKameswara RaoConnect

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