fasting and sri vidya upasana

[Guest guest]

hi,

 

Is it true that Srividya Upasakas are not allowed to undertake fasting?

 

I came across this statement in the Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting

" In Sri VIdya, One is Forbidden to Fast Him/Her self because the Devi is

within them, and starving would in return starve the god. The only

exception in Srividya for fasting is on the day the persons parents had

passed away. "

 

 

regards

Vishwam

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes. Empty stomach cannot realise god. It is mandatory that upasakas should

worship divine mother with a smiling face, with perfumes and scents and without

the mouth stinking -suralibha vadanaha.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

 

: krishvishy: Tue, 2 Sep 2008

21:35:59 -0700 fasting and sri vidya upasana

 

 

 

 

hi,Is it true that Srividya Upasakas are not allowed to undertake fasting?I came

across this statement in the Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting " In

Sri VIdya, One is Forbidden to Fast Him/Her self because the Devi iswithin them,

and starving would in return starve the god. The onlyexception in Srividya for

fasting is on the day the persons parents hadpassed

away. " regardsVishwam

[Guest guest]

Dear vishwam,

 

Yes it is true. Srividyopasakas have some privileges. BUT MOST OF

THE SRIVDYOPASAKAS TAKE THESE PRIVILEGES FOR GRANTED. Some of the

upasakas whom I have personally contacted observe these things:

 

1) Do not observe the Ekadasi vrata as ordained by Dharma Sindhu

2) Do not care to do " Namaste " with folded hands while greeting others

3) Do not perform Nitya Karmas like Vaidika Sandhyavandana with

Gayatri Mantra, Brahma Yajna etc. as they are under the impression

that " No anushtana is required when Shodasi is done " and no Vaidika

Sandhya is required as they have tantrika Sandhyavandana

4) Some of the upasakas have gone to extent of removing their

Upavitha (I have personally seen them and they are grihasthas)

 

Now, regarding the points 1) and 2), a upasaka who has undergone

MAHASHODA NYASA with PURNABHISHEKA need not bother about fasts and

other religious observances and SHOULD NOT PROSTRATE before others.

 

Now, this form of Diksha alongwith Mahashoda Nyasa, now-a-days, is

given just like that without proper adhikara (both guru and sishya).

The moment they take the diksha, they pose as if they are on par with

great Shaktha Bhasurandanatha or the Jagatguru Sankara

Bhagavatpada. Under this impression, they do not observe the 1st

and 2nd points. Instead they give the example of the incident of

Shri Bhaskararaya and a Sanyasi where the Sanyasi insists Bhaskara to

prostrate before him. When Bhaskara prostrates before Sanyasi, the

Danda (Staff) and Kamandala of the Sanyasi is shattered to pieces.

 

If the Diksha is properly taken by a disciple (who has the adhikara)

from a Guru of Sat-sampradaya, the moment Mahavedha and Mahashoda

Nyasa is performed, the shat-chakra bhedana is achieved and the

disciple enjoys the kulamrita rasa at Sahasrara.

 

IT IS ONLY TO SUCH DISCIPLES, THESE PRIVILEGES ARE GIVEN. ONLY SUCH

UPASAKAS WHO HAVE ACHIEVED TEMENDOUS ENERGIES THROUGH KUNDALINI

PRABODHANA AND SHAT-CHAKRA BHEDANA ARE IDENTIFIED WITH THE FORM OF

TRIPURASUNDARI. BECAUSE, FOR THEM NOTHING REMAINS TO BE ACHIEVED

(FASTS, VIGILS ETC. ARE JUST A MEANS).

 

REST OF THE UPASAKAS (WHO HAVE NOT ACHIEVED THE CHAKRA BHEDANA,

KULAMRITA ), EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE SRIVIDYA-INITIATES, HAVE TO

OBSERVE EKADASI VRATA, HAVE TO PERFORM NITYA KARMAS, SHOULD NEVER

REMOVE THEIR UPAVITHA, SHOULD BE HUMBLE ENOUGH TO PROSTRATE

BEFORE " VIPRAS " , " NITYA AGNIHOTRIS " AND PUNDITAS.

 

EVERY HINDU (IRRESPECTIVE OF WHATEVER UPASANA ONE HAS) HAS TO OBSERVE

24 EKADASI VRATAS IN ONE'S LIFE TIME. JYESHTA SHUDDHA EKASAI IS THE

NIRJALA EKASADI WHERE EVEN WATER SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHED.

 

Unfortunately, the ekadasi vrata is relegated to secondary position

now-a-days. Even if fasting is done, it is supplemented with a dozen

idlis and half a dozen cups of coffee.

 

My gurunatha used to observe mouna vrata and fast during the

ekadasi. Brahmasri tadepalli ragahava narayana sastrigal used to

observe fast during ekadasi, pournami, navaratri and perform

kalpoktha navavarana archana to srichakra. Vashishta ganapati muni,

from the day he attained kapala bhedana siddhi, used to have light

meal of dal, rasam and butter milk and during the nights a glass of

lukewarm milk. This he maintained through his life. During the

period of performing tapas, he used to observe fast. Kanchi

mahaperiyaval right from his age of 40 years till his siddhi, used to

have only puffed rice soaked in buttermilk during the morning and

tulasi tirtha during nights.

 

 

With regards,

Sriram

 

 

, vishwanthan Krishnamoorthy

<krishvishy wrote:

>

> hi,

>

> Is it true that Srividya Upasakas are not allowed to undertake

fasting?

>

> I came across this statement in the Wikipedia

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting

> " In Sri VIdya, One is Forbidden to Fast Him/Her self because the

Devi is

> within them, and starving would in return starve the god. The only

> exception in Srividya for fasting is on the day the persons parents

had

> passed away. "

>

>

> regards

> Vishwam

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sriram,

 

I fully endorse your views.

However I would like to pen down some of my views:

1. Any person who wants to initiate another person should possess the total

divine energy of that mantra and also know the technique to transmit that divine

energy to the proposed disciple. Otherwise it is useless.

2. i am amazed and pained to find that people charge hefty sums to initiate.

3. Even people having bala imagine that they are Goddess herself without

understanding the fact that none can merge with God until the maha pralaya.

4. I find total absence of humility and there is abundane of arrogance and self

deceit in many upasakas. Recently i witnessed a prathyinkira homam done in a

famous temple and when i went the near them, they told me to get away. They

totally have no sense of honour and think that they are the only veterans in the

world.

5. When an upasaka is perfect he does not see any difference and everything is

viewed as thojamayam, brahmamayam, vidhyamayam etc. How then he can claim he is

great.

6. i do not think anybody could be burned to ashes, irrespective of whether the

Upasaka is great. When one reaches the relm of reality, he is merged with

everything including animate and inanimate, and how then he can burn others.

Personally i do not believe the story of Bhaskararaya, as he would not have

certainly done that or disrespect.

7. I am also of the firm opinion that there seems to be none who had mastered

the so called kundalini sakthi. if what we assume the vital energy as kundalini

energy, every adolascent entering brahmacharya should have been great saints.

Kundalini refers to the athma and not human energy.

8. I know great saints observe fast in order to cleanse their system and mind

and it is absolutely essential that the ekadasi vratham is one of the chosen.

9. Now a days poorna diksha is given without going through the formalities, and

I ahve not seen any guru mandalam bestowing on the sishya " sarva mantra adhikaro

bhaveth " and the necessary peetathikaram.

10. it is also said to see several upasakas falling a prey to women who get

attracted towards them, because such upasakas promise that and this to the

women. They are more on kaulachara to have intercourse and not interaction for

integration through athma sakshatkara. The union of the life principle with that

of the guru is alone called as union of souls and not otherwise.

I am writing these not with a view to hurt anyone, but my own views which may or

may not have any basis. I am in the field of upasaka more than 50 years and

personal experience of mine is more important to me than anythingelse.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

 

: sriram_sapthasathi: Thu, 4 Sep

2008 07:50:25 +0000 Re: fasting and sri vidya upasana

 

Dear vishwam,Yes it is true. Srividyopasakas have some privileges. BUT MOST OF

THE SRIVDYOPASAKAS TAKE THESE PRIVILEGES FOR GRANTED.