Chandi Homa

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Dear sankaranarayan,

 

Please refer the 35th sloka of Vaikrika Rahasya.

 

pratislOkam cha juhUyA tpAyasam tila sarpishA

juhUyAt stOtramantrairvA chandikAyai shubham havih…….35

 

Taking the pramana of this sloka, the Chidambara Samhita and Katyanana Tantra

framed the Chandi Homa Vidhi with 700 Slokas alongwith 700 Swaha-kArAs.

 

Moreover, the havir-dAna during the Raksha Stotras (like Mrityunjaya Stotram

of Chandi), is prANAntaka for the upAsaka. Other than Ghee / Payasanna, the

Upasaka should not offer any other dravyas during the Homa. The upasaka who

offers other dravyas during the Raksha Slokas is a Fool (Mukha) and a pAtaka.

And also gives the example of AndhakAsura who a ChandikOpasaka. He used other

dravyas during the Raksha Stotram and got killed in the hands of Siva. The

sastra says:

 

rakshA kavachagai rmantrai rhOmam tatra nakArayEt

mourkhyA tkavachagai rmantraih pratislOkam juhOmi yah

syA ddEhapatanam tasya narakam pratipadyatE

 

andhakAkhyO mahAdaityO ………..nipAtitah.

 

Moreover, I called up Brahmasri Narahari Bhatt, the asthAna SrividyOpasaka of

Sringeri Sarada Pita. Shri Bhatt does the ChandramoulIshwara Puja and

Navavarana Archana to the Pita during the Morning and Shri Swamigal during the

Night. Shri Bhatt is also of the same view that Chandi Homa implies the Homa

ONLY WITH SAPTHASATI (700 slokas). Chandi Homa is not performed with Navakshari

Mantra Swaha-kAra which is used only for Mantra Siddhi.

 

With regards,

Sriram

 

Namah Chandikayai….

 

 

 

 

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Namaste,

 

I have doubts regarding Chandi homa krama. I have observed the rituals

performed during the homam and these seem to vary. From whatever I have observed

the differences crop up when performed by priests belonging to different regions

(TN and Karnataka/AP). The difference could also be due to traditions, but I am

unaware about this.

 

If the homa is performed by priests hailing from the Tamil belt, there are

rituals performed on the previous day itself. Bali is offered to the

Chatuhshasti Yogini and Chatuhshasti Bhairava on the previous evening. Later,

dik bandhana is performed for the temple or pradesha itself where the homa is to

be performed by placing burning samiths around the four borders of the temple.

This need not be just the border of the temple, but could extend to the pathways

surrounding the temple. But I have not seen this being performed by priests

hailing from Kannada or Telugu speaking regions. Also, while the former perform

kshira tarpana all through the homa, only some perform this amongst the latter.

 

Could members kindly clarify these differences?

 

Thank you,

Sudarshan

 

 

 

venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:

Dear sankaranarayan,

 

Please refer the 35th sloka of Vaikrika Rahasya.

 

pratislOkam cha juhUyA tpAyasam tila sarpishA

juhUyAt stOtramantrairvA chandikAyai shubham havih…….35

 

Taking the pramana of this sloka, the Chidambara Samhita and Katyanana Tantra

framed the Chandi Homa Vidhi with 700 Slokas alongwith 700 Swaha-kArAs.

 

Moreover, the havir-dAna during the Raksha Stotras (like Mrityunjaya Stotram of

Chandi), is prANAntaka for the upAsaka. Other than Ghee / Payasanna, the Upasaka

should not offer any other dravyas during the Homa. The upasaka who offers other

dravyas during the Raksha Slokas is a Fool (Mukha) and a pAtaka. And also gives

the example of AndhakAsura who a ChandikOpasaka. He used other dravyas during

the Raksha Stotram and got killed in the hands of Siva. The sastra says:

 

rakshA kavachagai rmantrai rhOmam tatra nakArayEt

mourkhyA tkavachagai rmantraih pratislOkam juhOmi yah

syA ddEhapatanam tasya narakam pratipadyatE

 

andhakAkhyO mahAdaityO ………..nipAtitah.

 

Moreover, I called up Brahmasri Narahari Bhatt, the asthAna SrividyOpasaka of

Sringeri Sarada Pita. Shri Bhatt does the ChandramoulIshwara Puja and Navavarana

Archana to the Pita during the Morning and Shri Swamigal during the Night. Shri

Bhatt is also of the same view that Chandi Homa implies the Homa ONLY WITH

SAPTHASATI (700 slokas). Chandi Homa is not performed with Navakshari Mantra

Swaha-kAra which is used only for Mantra Siddhi.

 

With regards,

Sriram

 

Namah Chandikayai….

 

 

 

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Dear sudarshan & members,

 

Namaste.

 

You have rightly observed the sampradaya bheda in Chandi Homa.

Priests belonging to Tamil belt perform the Bali the previous day;

bali is offered the previous evening.

 

I HAVE QUITE UNAWARE OF THE TAMIL SAMPRADAYA BUT I HAVE SOME

RESERVATIONS REGARDING THIS OFFERING OF BALI.

 

THE DAY WHEN KALASA STHAPANA IS DONE, THE SAME DAY BALI IS OFFERED TO

64 YOGINIS AND BHAIRAVAS. AND THE DURATION OF THE YAGA IS EITHER 1

DAY OR 3 DAYS (EXCEPTION DURING SARANNAVARATRI). THERE IS ALSO

CONTROVERSY ON THE CHATUSHSHASHTI BHAIRAVA BALI. BUT, BALI IS

OFFERED THE DAY WHEN KALASA STHAPANA IS DONE AND PURNAHUTI IS

PERFORMED. WHEN THE BALI IS OFFERED THE PREVIOUS DAY, THEN WHAT IS

THE DURATION OF CHANDI YAGA (DURATION OF 2 DAYS IS AGAINST THE

SAMPRADAYA).

 

Now, regarding the Dravya Tyaga, the dravyas are mentioned in

Sapthasathi itself viz., Tila and Payasanna mixed with Ghee. There

are certain sampradayas who use Palm Leaf Trays even for Havana and

Purnahuti. For " Uvacha " , there is a separate dravya. But the

sishtachara and the dravya with which Mother Chandika Parameshwari is

easily pleased with is AJYA-MISRITA PAYASANNA (KSHIRANNA MIXED WITH

GHEE) (As told by Sringeri Acharya). Use of other dravyas like

sesame seeds, tila, honey, red flowers are for kamya prayogas (there

is also sastra pramana for this).

 

" pratislOkam cha juhUyA tpAyasam tila sarpishA

juhUyAt stOtramantrairvA chandikAyai shubham havih "

 

AND THE UTTAMA LAKSHANA OF THE CHANDI HOMA IS TO DO THE SAMPUTIKARANA

OF CHANDI NAVAKSHARI MULA MANTRA (IE., PREFIXED AND SUFFIXED TO EVERY

SLOKA OF SAPTHASATHI) AND SWAHA-KARA. (AS TOLD BY MY GURUNATHA)

 

Use of Plastics (I do not know whose sampradaya it belongs to) is

just nonsense.

 

However, a Pattu Vastra should be used for Purnahuti. Prior to

Purnahuti, after JayAdi AntA, ashtadikpAlaka and Kushmanda Bali

should be performed.

 

And above all, one should humbly bow before the Amnaya Pita of

Sringeri for any clarifications regarding the Dharma Sastra, Mantra,

Upasana, Veda, Vedanta, Sroutha & Smartha Kanda.

 

With regards,

Sriram

 

 

, sudarshan balasubramanian

<sudarshanbalasubramanian wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> I have doubts regarding Chandi homa krama. I have observed the

rituals performed during the homam and these seem to vary. From

whatever I have observed the differences crop up when performed by

priests belonging to different regions (TN and Karnataka/AP). The

difference could also be due to traditions, but I am unaware about

this.

>

> If the homa is performed by priests hailing from the Tamil belt,

there are rituals performed on the previous day itself. Bali is

offered to the Chatuhshasti Yogini and Chatuhshasti Bhairava on the

previous evening. Later, dik bandhana is performed for the temple or

pradesha itself where the homa is to be performed by placing burning

samiths around the four borders of the temple. This need not be just

the border of the temple, but could extend to the pathways

surrounding the temple. But I have not seen this being performed by

priests hailing from Kannada or Telugu speaking regions. Also, while

the former perform kshira tarpana all through the homa, only some

perform this amongst the latter.

>

> Could members kindly clarify these differences?

>

> Thank you,

> Sudarshan

>

>

>

> venkata sriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:

> Dear sankaranarayan,

>

> Please refer the 35th sloka of Vaikrika Rahasya.

>

> pratislOkam cha juhUyA tpAyasam tila sarpishA

> juhUyAt stOtramantrairvA chandikAyai shubham havih…….35

>

> Taking the pramana of this sloka, the Chidambara Samhita and

Katyanana Tantra framed the Chandi Homa Vidhi with 700 Slokas

alongwith 700 Swaha-kArAs.

>

> Moreover, the havir-dAna during the Raksha Stotras (like

Mrityunjaya Stotram of Chandi), is prANAntaka for the upAsaka. Other

than Ghee / Payasanna, the Upasaka should not offer any other dravyas

during the Homa. The upasaka who offers other dravyas during the

Raksha Slokas is a Fool (Mukha) and a pAtaka. And also gives the

example of AndhakAsura who a ChandikOpasaka. He used other dravyas

during the Raksha Stotram and got killed in the hands of Siva. The

sastra says:

>

> rakshA kavachagai rmantrai rhOmam tatra nakArayEt

> mourkhyA tkavachagai rmantraih pratislOkam juhOmi yah

> syA ddEhapatanam tasya narakam pratipadyatE

>

> andhakAkhyO mahAdaityO ………..nipAtitah.

>

> Moreover, I called up Brahmasri Narahari Bhatt, the asthAna

SrividyOpasaka of Sringeri Sarada Pita. Shri Bhatt does the

ChandramoulIshwara Puja and Navavarana Archana to the Pita during the

Morning and Shri Swamigal during the Night. Shri Bhatt is also of the

same view that Chandi Homa implies the Homa ONLY WITH SAPTHASATI (700

slokas). Chandi Homa is not performed with Navakshari Mantra Swaha-

kAra which is used only for Mantra Siddhi.

>

> With regards,

> Sriram

>

> Namah Chandikayai….

>

>

>

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>

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Dear Sriram,

Thanks a lot. People are concerned only with rituals, rituals, rituals and go on

and on, and there seems to be no interest in acquiring the divine energy. Chandi

is the epitome of omniscience, omnipresent and omnipotent, and i do not think it

is correct to draw her energy for kamya, whatever might have been said by many.

People blindly follow. They take it for granted that whatever a Guru says 100

times it becomes a procedure accepted by all. Each Guru parampara wants to

emphasis on their own culture and procedure, forgetting the fact that

realisation and mergence is the final goal. Prana Ahuthi - offering one's soul

to the divine is most important.

Regards,

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

 

 

 

: sriram_sapthasathi: Wed, 10 Sep

2008 05:57:50 +0100 Chandi Homa

 

 

 

 

Dear sankaranarayan,Please refer the 35th sloka of Vaikrika Rahasya. pratislOkam

cha juhUyA tpAyasam tila sarpishAjuhUyAt stOtramantrairvA chandikAyai shubham

havih…….35Taking the pramana of this sloka, the Chidambara Samhita and Katyanana

Tantra framed the Chandi Homa Vidhi with 700 Slokas alongwith 700 Swaha-kArAs.

Moreover, the havir-dAna

[Guest guest]

Dear sankaranarayan,

 

Namaste.

 

My intention of the post is not to undermine you. As i have already

mentioned, this is just exchange of ideas and nobody is perfect and

self-realised. Had i be self-realised, i would not sit before the

computer posting these mails. I would resign my comfortable state

government job and go to some corner of the country and be in my

blissful state.

 

I have just cited the evidence from the sapthasati itself when you

denied the existence of sastra pramana. Well, if anybody denies the

pramana from Vaikritika Rahasya, i am helpless.

 

Now, regarding the kamya prayogas, well, it depends upon the mental

attitude and chitta shuddhi of the upasaka. The Mother Chandi itself

proclaims that She would be pleased if propitiated during the famine,

floods, contagious diseases (mahAmAri) with Mahatmya Parayana and

Havana. This is for Loka Rashana & Kalyana. When the coastal andhra

was flooded by Godavari river, when the people were marooned, Kanchi

Mahaperiyaval adviced the vedic pundits in Andhra to perform Chandi

Homa and Sapthasati Parayana along Veda Parayana continuously for 7

days.

 

Moreover, the entire episode of sapthasati revolves around this

concept with the two characters Suradha and Samadhi. Suradha regained

his lost empire, enjoyed the riches, and after death, in the next

life became the Manu (with the grace of Mother Chandi). Whereas the

Samadhi became the Jivanmukta.

 

So, these two paths are before us either to choose Pitriyana Marga

(Dhuma Marga) or Devayana Marga. MandAdhikArIs chose Pitriyana Marga

and UttamAdhikArIs choose Devayana Marga.

 

svargApavargadE dEvi nArAyaNi namOstutE....

 

Let us forget all the differences and strive for perfection.

 

With regards,

sriram

 

 

, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai

wrote:

>

> Dear Sriram,

> Thanks a lot. People are concerned only with rituals, rituals,

rituals and go on and on, and there seems to be no interest in

acquiring the divine energy. Chandi is the epitome of omniscience,

omnipresent and omnipotent, and i do not think it is correct to draw

her energy for kamya, whatever might have been said by many. People

blindly follow. They take it for granted that whatever a Guru says

100 times it becomes a procedure accepted by all. Each Guru parampara

wants to emphasis on their own culture and procedure, forgetting the

fact that realisation and mergence is the final goal. Prana Ahuthi -

offering one's soul to the divine is most important.

> Regards,

> S.SHANGARANARAYANAN

>

>

>

> : sriram_sapthasathi: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:57:50

+0100 Chandi Homa

>

>

>

>

> Dear sankaranarayan,Please refer the 35th sloka of Vaikrika

Rahasya. pratislOkam cha juhUyA tpAyasam tila sarpishAjuhUyAt

stOtramantrairvA chandikAyai shubham havih…….35Taking the pramana of

this sloka, the Chidambara Samhita and Katyanana Tantra framed the

Chandi Homa Vidhi with 700 Slokas alongwith 700 Swaha-kArAs.

Moreover, the havir-dAna

>

[Guest guest]

Dearest Divine,

 

Please note that I am not questioning the Saptasathi. My own agony is using the

verses for Havan. That is all.

Well, if still people, whomsoever it may be, think that using all kind of things

in the havan, including the procedures and methods for achievement of Kamya, I

cannot help it.

I am not an adept even. I follow what my conscious says. I do not question the

scriptrues and I am amazed how wrongly people use them for their own ends.

Yes. i agree with you Mother chandi gives both material and spiritual benefits.

But how. It is pure abstract energy and according to me it cannot be reached

unless people approach her through the process of dhyana and having the route

through their Gurumandalam, who alone can connect that divine energy to the

disciple.The Guru must be an adept who has absorbed and live in constant

mergence with that divine energy of Chandi Mother. It is extremely difficult to

find even a single person so merged, unless perhaps luck also favours us. Then

naturally every one wants to do what others say, instead of trying very hard to

do the homework and establish connection with Chandi Ma. If Chandi ma is not

going to reveal by a single call, I do not think she will respond even after a

million calls. We must have the same spiritual absorbency and capacity to have

Mother.

Well my views stand as they are, not to hurt anyone. May God bless us all.

Regards,

s.shangaranarayanan

 

 

 

: sriram_sapthasathi: Fri, 12 Sep

2008 07:56:15 +0000 Re: Chandi Homa

 

 

 

 

Dear sankaranarayan,Namaste. My intention of the post is not to undermine you.

As i have already mentioned, this is just exchange of ideas and nobody is

perfect and self-realised. Had i be self-realised, i would not sit before the

computer posting these mails. I would resign my comfortable state government job

and go to some corner of the country and be in my blissful state. I have just

cited the evidence from the sapthasati itself when you denied the existence of

sastra pramana. Well, if anybody denies the pramana from Vaikritika Rahasya, i

am helpless. Now, regarding the kamya prayogas, well, it depends upon the mental

attitude and chitta shuddhi of the upasaka. The Mother Chandi itself proclaims

that She would be pleased if propitiated during the famine, floods, contagious

diseases (mahAmAri) with Mahatmya Parayana and Havana. This is for Loka Rashana

& Kalyana. When the coastal andhra was flooded by Godavari river, when the

people were marooned, Kanchi Mahaperiyaval adviced the vedic pundits in Andhra

to perform Chandi Homa and Sapthasati Parayana along Veda Parayana continuously

for 7 days. Moreover, the entire episode of sapthasati revolves around this

concept with the two characters Suradha and Samadhi. Suradha regained his lost

empire, enjoyed the riches, and after death, in the next life became the Manu

(with the grace of Mother Chandi). Whereas the Samadhi became the Jivanmukta.

So, these two paths are before us either to choose Pitriyana Marga (Dhuma Marga)

or Devayana Marga. MandAdhikArIs chose Pitriyana Marga and UttamAdhikArIs choose

Devayana Marga. svargApavargadE dEvi nArAyaNi namOstutE....Let us forget all the

differences and strive for perfection.With regards,sriram--- In

, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote:>> Dear

Sriram,> Thanks a lot. People are concerned only with rituals, rituals, rituals

and go on and on, and there seems to be no interest in acquiring the divine

energy. Chandi is the epitome of omniscience, omnipresent and omnipotent, and i

do not think it is correct to draw her energy for kamya, whatever might have

been said by many. People blindly follow. They take it for granted that whatever

a Guru says 100 times it becomes a procedure accepted by all. Each Guru

parampara wants to emphasis on their own culture and procedure, forgetting the

fact that realisation and mergence is the final goal. Prana Ahuthi - offering

one's soul to the divine is most important.> Regards,> S.SHANGARANARAYANAN> > >

> : sriram_sapthasathi: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:57:50

+0100 Chandi Homa> > > > > Dear sankaranarayan,Please refer

the 35th sloka of Vaikrika Rahasya. pratislOkam cha juhUyA tpAyasam tila

sarpishAjuhUyAt stOtramantrairvA chandikAyai shubham havih…….35Taking the

pramana of this sloka, the Chidambara Samhita and Katyanana Tantra framed the

Chandi Homa Vidhi with 700 Slokas alongwith 700 Swaha-kArAs. Moreover, the

havir-dAna>

 

 

 

 

 

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there is no divergence of thought here so there is no reason for any one to be

hurt. Based on what stage of spiritual evolution we are, we pray.

It is like Mahaperiyaval saying that traveling 45mins to go to a restaurant for

masala dosa is time wasted when we can eat roti at home in 5mins and then spend

the 40mins in contemplation of God.

True, but I still travel the 45 mins for the dosa and another 45mins waiting

and another for eating and so on :-)

and I am not alone

 

we have to work at it at our own pace. If someone is chanting DM for kamyaartham

so be it, evolution will follow, maybe with a lot of slips on the way... which

is why even Adi Sankara wrote so many slokas where the phala stuthi has material

benefits.

 

but short circuiting it will not work unless you find a compassionate Guru who

can burn your karmas and vaasanas with his tapas

 

and no.. one does not need a gurumandalam to connect with ones Mother..one needs

a gurumandalam only for a particular upasana maraga such as Srividya...

 

regards

Vishwam

 

 

 

 

S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai

 

Friday, September 12, 2008 8:10:39 AM

RE: Re: Chandi Homa

 

 

Dearest Divine,

 

Please note that I am not questioning the Saptasathi. My own agony is using the

verses for Havan. That is all.

Well, if still people, whomsoever it may be, think that using all kind of things

in the havan, including the procedures and methods for achievement of Kamya, I

cannot help it.

I am not an adept even. I follow what my conscious says. I do not question the

scriptrues and I am amazed how wrongly people use them for their own ends.

Yes. i agree with you Mother chandi gives both material and spiritual benefits.

But how. It is pure abstract energy and according to me it cannot be reached

unless people approach her through the process of dhyana and having the route

through their Gurumandalam, who alone can connect that divine energy to the

disciple.The Guru must be an adept who has absorbed and live in constant

mergence with that divine energy of Chandi Mother. It is extremely difficult to

find even a single person so merged, unless perhaps luck also favours us. Then

naturally every one wants to do what others say, instead of trying very hard to

do the homework and establish connection with Chandi Ma. If Chandi ma is not

going to reveal by a single call, I do not think she will respond even after a

million calls. We must have the same spiritual absorbency and capacity to have

Mother.

Well my views stand as they are, not to hurt anyone. May God bless us all.

Regards,

s.shangaranarayanan

 

 

 

: sriram_sapthasathi: Fri, 12 Sep

2008 07:56:15 +0000 Re: Chandi Homa

 

 

 

 

Dear sankaranarayan,Namaste. My intention of the post is not to undermine you.

As i have already mentioned, this is just exchange of ideas and nobody is

perfect and self-realised. Had i be self-realised, i would not sit before the

computer posting these mails. I would resign my comfortable state government job

and go to some corner of the country and be in my blissful state. I have just

cited the evidence from the sapthasati itself when you denied the existence of

sastra pramana. Well, if anybody denies the pramana from Vaikritika Rahasya, i

am helpless. Now, regarding the kamya prayogas, well, it depends upon the mental

attitude and chitta shuddhi of the upasaka. The Mother Chandi itself proclaims

that She would be pleased if propitiated during the famine, floods, contagious

diseases (mahAmAri) with Mahatmya Parayana and Havana. This is for Loka Rashana

& Kalyana. When the coastal andhra was flooded by Godavari river, when the

people were marooned,

Kanchi Mahaperiyaval adviced the vedic pundits in Andhra to perform Chandi Homa

and Sapthasati Parayana along Veda Parayana continuously for 7 days. Moreover,

the entire episode of sapthasati revolves around this concept with the two

characters Suradha and Samadhi. Suradha regained his lost empire, enjoyed the

riches, and after death, in the next life became the Manu (with the grace of

Mother Chandi). Whereas the Samadhi became the Jivanmukta. So, these two paths

are before us either to choose Pitriyana Marga (Dhuma Marga) or Devayana Marga.

MandAdhikArIs chose Pitriyana Marga and UttamAdhikArIs choose Devayana Marga.

svargApavargadE dEvi nArAyaNi namOstutE....Let us forget all the differences and

strive for perfection.With regards,sriram , S

Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote:>> Dear Sriram,> Thanks a lot. People are

concerned only with rituals, rituals, rituals and go on and on, and there seems

to be no interest in

acquiring the divine energy. Chandi is the epitome of omniscience, omnipresent

and omnipotent, and i do not think it is correct to draw her energy for kamya,

whatever might have been said by many. People blindly follow. They take it for

granted that whatever a Guru says 100 times it becomes a procedure accepted by

all. Each Guru parampara wants to emphasis on their own culture and procedure,

forgetting the fact that realisation and mergence is the final goal. Prana

Ahuthi - offering one's soul to the divine is most important.> Regards,>

S.SHANGARANARAYANAN> > > > : sriram_sapthasathi: Wed, 10 Sep

2008 05:57:50 +0100 Chandi Homa> > > > > Dear

sankaranarayan,Please refer the 35th sloka of Vaikrika Rahasya. pratislOkam cha

juhUyA tpAyasam tila sarpishAjuhUyAt stOtramantrairvA chandikAyai shubham

havih…….35Taking the pramana of this sloka, the Chidambara Samhita and Katyanana

Tantra framed the Chandi Homa Vidhi with

700 Slokas alongwith 700 Swaha-kArAs. Moreover, the havir-dAna>

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Divine,

 

Perhaps you are ignorant about the powers of the Guru mandalam and had virtually

no experience. When you say let the nature take its own course, why then you

want to adopt various means and methods for evolution.

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[Guest guest]

, S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote:

>

> Dear Sriram,

> Thanks a lot. People are concerned only with rituals, rituals,

rituals and go on and on, and there seems to be no interest in

acquiring the divine energy.

 

Sir, your views as stated above seem incorrect and inconsistent with

the Vaidika Shastras. Performance of recommended Karmas is the

recommended path for at least the Dvijas, especially for males. By

Arthika and Tantrika recommendations even Shudras and others should be

performing the required karmas. Even Upanishads that some consider

texts for the Atimarga cannot be understood properly without

understanding Mimamsa. Any form of Shaiva or Vaishnava tantra

including the Kaula Marga of the former which talks about Advaita (not

as in the branch of Vedanta) ultimately does not shed rituals.

 

So if people are interested in performing rituals it is a good thing.

If people want to skip Nitya rituals and do only Kamya ones then it is

not supported by the Shastras. If people do not want to put in the

effort to study the system before performing rituals that is

wrong(like getting a degree without any work), but the interest to

perform rituals is a good thing.

RR

[Guest guest]

2008/9/14 rajita_rajvasishth <rajita_rajvasishth:

 

<<Even Upanishads that some consider texts for the Atimarga cannot be

understood properly without

understanding Mimamsa. Any form of Shaiva or Vaishnava tantra

including the Kaula Marga of the former which talks about Advaita (not

as in the branch of Vedanta) ultimately does not shed rituals.>>

 

By atimarga, do you mean sannyasa?

 

Advaita Vedanta also does not shed rituals. Grihastha advaitins

continue to practise Vaidika karma-s as well as various forms of

upasana. Though Advaita sannyasi-s after the viraja homa give up

Vaidika karma-s, they continue to practise various forms of upasana.

Mention may be made of the book " Yoga, Enlightenment and Perfection of

Sri Abhinava Vidyatirtha Mahawamigal " which describes the sadhana of

the Sringeri acharya including his usage of the Mantra-shaastra and

Kundalini Yoga in great detail.

 

--

santoShaH paramo lAbhaH satsa~NgaH paramA gatiH I

vicAraH paramaM j~nAnaM shamo hi paramaM sukham II

- yoga vAsiShTha

[Guest guest]

, " Ramesh Krishnamurthy " <rkmurthy

wrote:

 

> By atimarga, do you mean sannyasa?

 

 

I mean everything after Grihastashrama or after the cessation of

household rites.

 

>

> Advaita Vedanta also does not shed rituals. Grihastha advaitins

> continue to practise Vaidika karma-s as well as various forms of

> upasana. Though Advaita sannyasi-s after the viraja homa give up

> Vaidika karma-s, they continue to practise various forms of upasana.

 

No disagreement here. I did not mean to say that Advaita Vedanta sheds

rituals. I was only observing that the Vedanta of the Upanishads

follows rituals. I also realize that the Panchayatana or Shanmata of

Shankaracharya's tradition follow rituals. I do not know much on the

matter of Sannyas, but I think there is Yatidharma with their own

rituals for organized Sannyasis. But I think there is a place in the

Shastras for extreme atimarga where they have apparently given up all

rituals, but this is not recommended as a direct course as per the Smriti?

 

BTW Shriram, I am entirely undeserving of your high words.

RR