Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Dear Sri Ram Ji, Small correction. What we chant is only 23 lettered gayathry ( Varenyam ) mantra for argyam and japa known as " Nichrith gayathry " and for homas only, the 24 lettered gayathry ( Varaneyam ) is used. Ganapathy --- Vijaya " Jai Bhavani " --- On Thu, 10/2/08, sriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote: sriram <sriram_sapthasathi (unknown) Thursday, October 2, 2008, 11:48 PM Dear sharma, One must be thorough with the principles and concepts Agni, Vayu, Surya and Aditya. There is a difference between the concept of Surya and Aditya. The ordinary 3-foot gayatri extols the Surya whereas the 4-foot Gayatri extols the Aditya which is the SUPREME TRUTH, which is even hidden from Gods. Savitr presides over the Rising Sun. Surya presides over both Rising and Setting Sun. But Aditya is BEYONG THE PRINCIPLES OF SAVITR AND SURYA. Aditya is untouched from these activities. And hence it is said to be residing in " richo akshare parame vyoman " in Asya Vamasya Sukta of Rg Veda. It is the " Bhargas " of " savitr " being meditated while chanting 3-foot gayatri which inspires (prachodayat) our intellect (dhiyah). The 3- foot gayatri is able to perceive the 3 principles of Agni, Vayu and Surya. But to perceive the 4th foot which is the principle of Aditya, Turiya Gayatri is the only refuge. Turiya gayatri is the highly secret " chatushpada gayatri mantra " which is even hidden from the Gods (pl. refer the 5th mantra of Asyavamasya Sukta of Rg Veda (1:164)). And hence, it is called " parO rajas…. " . What exactly is this is wonderfully explained by Jagatguru Shankara in his commentary on Brihadaranyaka & Chandogya Upanishad. The ordinary Tripada Gayatri which we chant is of 24 letters whereas the Turiya Gayatri is of 32 letters (1st pada of 8 letters is extra). Brihadaranyaka Upanishad says " Bhumi (earth), Antariksha (middle region), Dyou (heaven) is the 1st foot of Gayatri. Rg Veda, Yajurveda, Sama Veda is the 2nd Foot of Gayatri. Prana, Apana, Vyana is the 3rd Foot of Gayatri. Brihadaranyaka Upanishad says: " athAsyA EtatEva turIyam darshatam padam parO rajAya Esha tapati. Yad vai chaturtham tat turIyam darshatam padamiti dadrishah iva hyEsha. parO raja iti sarvamuhyEvaisha raja uparyupari tapati. Evam haiva shriyA yashasAtapati yO(a)syA EtatEvam padam vEda " " saishA gAyatrai tasminsturIyE darshatam padE parOrajasi pratishThitA. Tatvai tatsatyE pratishThitam chakshurvai satyam ……… " Gayatri is established in 4th pada, which is Seen as TRUTH and hence it is called " parO rajas " . Since, what is Seen is true and hence Gayatri is established in Truth. The Truth is supported by Strength. Prana is the Strength. And hence, Gayatri protects the " gayas " , the Prana. Since, it protects Prana, Apana, Vyana, it is called Gayatri. But the 4th foot of Gayatri is the " world beyond darkness " and has to be " seen " or " perceived " through " intuition " and hence it is called " akshare parame vyoman " . As the name itself implies " Turiya Gayatri " , this vidya is imparted only to Yatis. The householders are not permitted to chant this Turiya Gayatri. The smartas have the adhikara only to chant the " tripada gayatri " . Only Yatis coming from smarta background having undergone the rites of purva mimamsa, veda adhyayana in their previous asrama, get initiated in the Turiya Gayatri Vidya. The upasakas who donot have the adhikara to chant this " turiya gayatri vidya " , for them Srividya is the refuge. Srividya is for grihasthas. The Srividya Panchadasi Mantra is on par with Turiya Gayatri and hence Shri Bhaskararaya expounded this mantra in his " varivasya rahasya " . Non-dwijas & women are not permitted to chant the vedic tripada gayatri mantra. But such restriction is not with Panchadasi Mantra. And hence, Panchadasi is called the Gayatri of Shaktas. If you are initiated in Srividya, I suggest you to read the " varivasya rahasya " , tripuropanishad, tripuratapini Upanishad bhashyas. If you are not initiated in Srividya, I would suggest you to have a serious study of Asyavamasya Sukta of Rg Veda (1 Mandala : 164th Sukta). This sukta is a wonderful sukta envisioned by Sage Dirghatamas. If you did not learn this Sukta, please learn this sukta and chant every day. Even Rg Vedic scholar who has undergone the Kramanta Pata in Rg Veda is well versed with this sukta. With regards, sriram @ .com, ramasarma cv <cvrsarma2004@ ...> wrote: > > respected members, >  > i would like to know about thuriya gayathri, and how this mantra should be got initiated. >  > c.v.rama sarma. > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger ./ win/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 dear ganapathy, yes. In " varenyam " , " nI " is hidden and hence it is called nichrd gayatri. regards, sriram , ganapathy = = vijaya <srividya101 wrote: > > Dear Sri Ram Ji, > > Small correction. What we chant is only 23 lettered gayathry ( Varenyam ) mantra for argyam and japa known as " Nichrith gayathry " and for homas only, the 24 lettered gayathry ( Varaneyam ) is used. > > > > > Ganapathy --- Vijaya > " Jai Bhavani " > > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, sriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote: > > sriram <sriram_sapthasathi > (unknown) > > Thursday, October 2, 2008, 11:48 PM Dear sharma, > > One must be thorough with the principles and concepts Agni, Vayu, > Surya and Aditya. There is a difference between the concept of Surya > and Aditya. The ordinary 3-foot gayatri extols the Surya whereas the > 4-foot Gayatri extols the Aditya which is the SUPREME TRUTH, which is > even hidden from Gods. Savitr presides over the Rising Sun. Surya > presides over both Rising and Setting Sun. But Aditya is BEYONG THE > PRINCIPLES OF SAVITR AND SURYA. Aditya is untouched from these > activities. And hence it is said to be residing in " richo akshare > parame vyoman " in Asya Vamasya Sukta of Rg Veda. > > It is the " Bhargas " of " savitr " being meditated while chanting 3- foot > gayatri which inspires (prachodayat) our intellect (dhiyah). The 3- > foot gayatri is able to perceive the 3 principles of Agni, Vayu and > Surya. But to perceive the 4th foot which is the principle of > Aditya, Turiya Gayatri is the only refuge. > > Turiya gayatri is the highly secret " chatushpada gayatri mantra " > which is even hidden from the Gods (pl. refer the 5th mantra of > Asyavamasya Sukta of Rg Veda (1:164)). And hence, it is called " parO > rajas…. " . What exactly is this is wonderfully explained by > Jagatguru Shankara in his commentary on Brihadaranyaka & Chandogya > Upanishad. > > The ordinary Tripada Gayatri which we chant is of 24 letters whereas > the Turiya Gayatri is of 32 letters (1st pada of 8 letters is extra). > > Brihadaranyaka Upanishad says " Bhumi (earth), Antariksha (middle > region), Dyou (heaven) is the 1st foot of Gayatri. Rg Veda, > Yajurveda, Sama Veda is the 2nd Foot of Gayatri. Prana, Apana, Vyana > is the 3rd Foot of Gayatri. > > Brihadaranyaka Upanishad says: > > " athAsyA EtatEva turIyam darshatam padam parO rajAya Esha tapati. Yad > vai chaturtham tat turIyam darshatam padamiti dadrishah iva hyEsha. > parO raja iti sarvamuhyEvaisha raja uparyupari tapati. Evam haiva > shriyA yashasAtapati yO(a)syA EtatEvam padam vEda " > > " saishA gAyatrai tasminsturIyE darshatam padE parOrajasi > pratishThitA. Tatvai tatsatyE pratishThitam chakshurvai satyam ……… " > > Gayatri is established in 4th pada, which is Seen as TRUTH and hence > it is called " parO rajas " . Since, what is Seen is true and hence > Gayatri is established in Truth. The Truth is supported by > Strength. Prana is the Strength. And hence, Gayatri protects > the " gayas " , the Prana. Since, it protects Prana, Apana, Vyana, it > is called Gayatri. > > But the 4th foot of Gayatri is the " world beyond darkness " and has to > be " seen " or " perceived " through " intuition " and hence it is > called " akshare parame vyoman " . > > As the name itself implies " Turiya Gayatri " , this vidya is imparted > only to Yatis. The householders are not permitted to chant this > Turiya Gayatri. The smartas have the adhikara only to chant > the " tripada gayatri " . Only Yatis coming from smarta background > having undergone the rites of purva mimamsa, veda adhyayana in their > previous asrama, get initiated in the Turiya Gayatri Vidya. > > The upasakas who donot have the adhikara to chant this " turiya > gayatri vidya " , for them Srividya is the refuge. Srividya is for > grihasthas. The Srividya Panchadasi Mantra is on par with Turiya > Gayatri and hence Shri Bhaskararaya expounded this mantra in > his " varivasya rahasya " . > > Non-dwijas & women are not permitted to chant the vedic tripada > gayatri mantra. But such restriction is not with Panchadasi Mantra. > And hence, Panchadasi is called the Gayatri of Shaktas. > > If you are initiated in Srividya, I suggest you to read > the " varivasya rahasya " , tripuropanishad, tripuratapini Upanishad > bhashyas. > > If you are not initiated in Srividya, I would suggest you to have a > serious study of Asyavamasya Sukta of Rg Veda (1 Mandala : 164th > Sukta). This sukta is a wonderful sukta envisioned by Sage > Dirghatamas. > > If you did not learn this Sukta, please learn this sukta and chant > every day. Even Rg Vedic scholar who has undergone the Kramanta Pata > in Rg Veda is well versed with this sukta. > > With regards, > sriram > > @ .com, ramasarma cv <cvrsarma2004@ ...> wrote: > > > > respected members, > >  > > i would like to know about thuriya gayathri, and how this mantra > should be got initiated. > >  > > c.v.rama sarma. > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to > http://in.messenger ./ win/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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