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Dear devotees

 

One of the nAmA in the bAlA sahasranAmA is " trivarNA " . Can you pl enumerate the

meaning of this word?

 

Why such express exclusion of the 4'th varNA??

 

Is there any corelation with the nAmA " varNAshramavidhayinI " in lalithA

sahasranAmA?

 

praNAm.

Gopi

 

[varNa has lots of meanings other than caste for ex: color. - Satish]

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It has nothing to do with caste.

 

Varna means syllable, colour etc. Bala shines with 3 colours as jyothi

swarupini. The 3 bijas (vak, kama and sakti) has 3 different colours.

 

It can also be a-ka-tha varna rupini which are 3 in number.

 

It also shines as 3-syllables in " sanketa sara vidya " (vide ref.

Jnanarnava Tantra).

 

Don't exclude the poor 4th varna from srividya as " srividya " per se,

is meant for all the 4 varnas where panchadasi is called " gayatri for

shaktas " . Because the gayatri cannot be chanted by 4th varna, they

have their way out towards salvation with panchadasi.

 

with regards,

sriram

 

, Gopi <antarurjas wrote:

>

> Dear devotees

>

> One of the nAmA in the bAlA sahasranAmA is " trivarNA " . Can you pl

enumerate the meaning of this word?

>

> Why such express exclusion of the 4'th varNA??

>

> Is there any corelation with the nAmA " varNAshramavidhayinI " in

lalithA sahasranAmA?

>

> praNAm.

> Gopi

>

> [varNa has lots of meanings other than caste for ex: color. - Satish]

>

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Dear Sriram

 

Thanks for the clarification.  When I asked the question, I didnot have caste

in my mind at all. I wish I had clarified.

 

Recently during a discussion on dasamahaavidhya and other related devIs, there

was a reference to chaNDAli devi, who represents the 4'th varNa since HER pooja

is suppose to be difficult/ SHE is difficult to grasp my the upasaka. My doubt

came from this aspect , when i heard the name trivarNA.

 

praNAm

Gopi

Thankfully, SHE has exposed me to some extremely exhaulted upAsakAs, who are

suppose to be from the 4'th varNA. If only I  could reach the sadhana levels

that they have reached...... ._,___

 

 

 

 

 

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You might be referring to ucchista chandali whose mantra japa is done

with tambula in one's mouth. The mantra japa is done with tambula

sevana (chewing of pan).

 

Some vamacharis also offer the naivedya to this devata as the

leftovers of their food which is quite questionable method.

Generally, the karna pishachi upasana is done with this method where 5

morsels are kept aside from one's food plate and offered to K.Pishachi.

 

Anyway, i don't want to delve into these upasanas as they neither of

any interest to me nor it is of any use to me. Neither these are to

be revealed in forums like this.

 

regs,

sriram

 

 

, Gopi <antarurjas wrote:

>

> Dear Sriram

>

> Thanks for the clarification.  When I asked the question, I didnot

have caste in my mind at all. I wish I had clarified.

>

> Recently during a discussion on dasamahaavidhya and other related

devIs, there was a reference to chaNDAli devi, who represents the 4'th

varNa since HER pooja is suppose to be difficult/ SHE is difficult to

grasp my the upasaka. My doubt came from this aspect , when i heard

the name trivarNA.

>

> praNAm

> Gopi

> Thankfully, SHE has exposed me to some extremely exhaulted upAsakAs,

who are suppose to be from the 4'th varNA. If only I  could reach the

sadhana levels that they have reached...... ._,___

>

>

>

>

>

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Respected Sriram sir and other senior members,i am Subramanian from southern

Tamilnadu.Recently i joined this forum.I am not a devi upasaka in the past

but i used to tell lalitha sahasranama and trisati and soundarya lahari

occasionally.Recently i encountered severe personal problems hence i

consulted my astrologer friend who told me that i have been passing through

rahu buddhi in chevvai dasa which is very adverse for me as well as for my

son and he adviced me to pray kalimata for lessening the problem.But he

warned me that the effect of the sin of previous birth will be carried

forward to my next birth.Now i am very rigourusly praying

kalimata.From tuesday onwards i am chanting 108 times the beeja mantra of

kali " om krim kalikaye namaha " daily.Kindly note that only after starting

the praying of kalimata, i joined this esteemed forum.After reading the

discussions in this forum, i want to get the blessings of shri vidya.

Kindly tell me the basic matras or slokas or pooja procedures to pray the

srividya so as to enable me to receive her blessings. I am a layman for

these pooja rules.Kindly guide me sir

 

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:29 PM, sriram <sriram_sapthasathiwrote:

 

> You might be referring to ucchista chandali whose mantra japa is done

> with tambula in one's mouth. The mantra japa is done with tambula

> sevana (chewing of pan).

>

> Some vamacharis also offer the naivedya to this devata as the

> leftovers of their food which is quite questionable method.

> Generally, the karna pishachi upasana is done with this method where 5

> morsels are kept aside from one's food plate and offered to K.Pishachi.

>

> Anyway, i don't want to delve into these upasanas as they neither of

> any interest to me nor it is of any use to me. Neither these are to

> be revealed in forums like this.

>

> regs,

> sriram

>

> <%40>, Gopi

> <antarurjas wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sriram

> >

> > Thanks for the clarification. When I asked the question, I didnot

> have caste in my mind at all. I wish I had clarified.

> >

> > Recently during a discussion on dasamahaavidhya and other related

> devIs, there was a reference to chaNDAli devi, who represents the 4'th

> varNa since HER pooja is suppose to be difficult/ SHE is difficult to

> grasp my the upasaka. My doubt came from this aspect , when i heard

> the name trivarNA.

> >

> > praNAm

> > Gopi

> > Thankfully, SHE has exposed me to some extremely exhaulted upAsakAs,

> who are suppose to be from the 4'th varNA. If only IÂ could reach the

> sadhana levels that they have reached...... ._,___

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear subramaniam,

 

Namaste.

 

I understand your problem but this is a discussion forum which

stresses on devotional aspects which is more of a satsanga rather than

discussing personal problems. So let us try to avoid discussions on

astrology / personal problems etc.

 

My advice is before undertaking any kamya anushtana, you must be

initiated in the mantras from guru and its upasana paddhati. Taking

mantras just like that from books without initiation may prove fatal

and can give negative effects. Don't get yourself entangled in the

net of astrologers / feng shuis / nadi jyotishyam as all are fake and

absurd.

 

Personally i don't believe in Astrological predictions. Only Upasana

Bala works.

 

If you have adhikara of doing gayatri, do sandhyavandana alongwith

sahasra gayatri. Get the Chandi Parayana done with any good devi

upasaka in Chennai and take the tirtha prasada everyday.

 

You can chant Devi Sapthasloki, Aparajita Stotra (5th chapter of the

Chandi Sapthasati and Narayani Stuti (11th chapter of Chandi

Sapthasathi) without any apprehensions.

 

In Kali yuga, Chandi Sapthasati works...

 

kalau chandi kalau chandi kalau chandi......

 

with regards,

sriram

 

, SUBRAMANIAN SUBBIAH <arki77 wrote:

>

> Respected Sriram sir and other senior members,i am Subramanian from

southern

> Tamilnadu.Recently i joined this forum.I am not a devi upasaka in

the past

> but i used to tell lalitha sahasranama and trisati and soundarya lahari

> occasionally.Recently i encountered severe personal problems hence i

> consulted my astrologer friend who told me that i have been passing

through

> rahu buddhi in chevvai dasa which is very adverse for me as well as

for my

> son and he adviced me to pray kalimata for lessening the problem.But he

> warned me that the effect of the sin of previous birth will be carried

> forward to my next birth.Now i am very rigourusly praying

> kalimata.From tuesday onwards i am chanting 108 times the beeja

mantra of

> kali " om krim kalikaye namaha " daily.Kindly note that only after

starting

> the praying of kalimata, i joined this esteemed forum.After reading the

> discussions in this forum, i want to get the blessings of shri vidya.

> Kindly tell me the basic matras or slokas or pooja procedures to

pray the

> srividya so as to enable me to receive her blessings. I am a layman for

> these pooja rules.Kindly guide me sir

>

> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:29 PM, sriram <sriram_sapthasathiwrote:

>

> > You might be referring to ucchista chandali whose mantra japa is

done

> > with tambula in one's mouth. The mantra japa is done with tambula

> > sevana (chewing of pan).

> >

> > Some vamacharis also offer the naivedya to this devata as the

> > leftovers of their food which is quite questionable method.

> > Generally, the karna pishachi upasana is done with this method where 5

> > morsels are kept aside from one's food plate and offered to

K.Pishachi.

> >

> > Anyway, i don't want to delve into these upasanas as they neither of

> > any interest to me nor it is of any use to me. Neither these are to

> > be revealed in forums like this.

> >

> > regs,

> > sriram

> >

> > <%40>, Gopi

> > <antarurjas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sriram

> > >

> > > Thanks for the clarification. When I asked the question, I didnot

> > have caste in my mind at all. I wish I had clarified.

> > >

> > > Recently during a discussion on dasamahaavidhya and other related

> > devIs, there was a reference to chaNDAli devi, who represents the 4'th

> > varNa since HER pooja is suppose to be difficult/ SHE is difficult to

> > grasp my the upasaka. My doubt came from this aspect , when i heard

> > the name trivarNA.

> > >

> > > praNAm

> > > Gopi

> > > Thankfully, SHE has exposed me to some extremely exhaulted upAsakAs,

> > who are suppose to be from the 4'th varNA. If only IÂ could reach the

> > sadhana levels that they have reached...... ._,___

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear gopi,

 

When you mentioned " shudra gurus " , that word reminded me of the

great Mahayogini Tikka Lakshmmamma Avva who was like Mother for my

gurunatha and Brahmasri Gollapinni Mallikarjuna Sastry (the

paramaguru of my gurunatha). Lakshmamma Avva hailed from Adoni,

Kurnool district where my gurunatha worked as school teacher.

 

There are several shudra yogis & yoginis who played a vital role in

the life of my gurunatha and his parama guru shri Gollapinni

Mallikarjuna Sastry. This mahayogini belonging to the caste

of " untouchables " (as per the present day language).

 

Her name was Tikka Lakshmamma Avva. Born in the caste of chandala –

the untouchables, right from her childhood, she used to be seen

hanging around the dust bins for left over food and half-licked leaf

plates. The water for her drink was the drainage water that used to

flow along the dust bins. Most of the time she used to walk naked

without clothes. If anybody approached her, she used to throw

stones and kick them out of spitting and abusing in rough telugu

language.

 

Couple of the people who were blessed by this great yogini were Shri

Gollapinni Mallikarjuna Sastry and my gurunatha. During the 1st

contact of Mallikarjuna sastry and Tikka Lakshmmamma Avva, Shri

Sastry out of her sastra vasana and his " little satvika ahamkara "

did not pay respects to the Avva as she hailed from Chandala caste.

 

During the night when sastry sat for antarmukha upasana and

shatchakra bhedana, the Kundalini rose and got stuck up at Ajna

Chakra. Sastry was surprised. The next day performed the kalpokta

chakra archana and was meditating on Kamakala at Bindu sthana. The

avva gave the vision amidst bindu sthana saying that because of his

indifferent attitude towards her, the Chakra bhedana was not

achieved. Immediately, Gollapinni Mallikarjuna Sastry rose from his

asana, ran to the spot near the dust bin and prostrated at her

feet. Tears were trickling down from Mallikarjuna Sastry's eyes.

 

Mahayogini Lakshmamma Avva, an untouchable belonging to Chandala

caste imparted drik diksha and explained some portions of Sankara

bhashya from Brahma Sutras. And this incident changed the life of

Shri Mallikarjuna Sastry, who received srividya instructions from

Nrisimha Bharati of sringeri and Hamsa and akshi purusha vidya from

Lord Virupaksha of Hampi himself.

 

Gollapinni Mallikarjuna Sastry loving used to address her as AVVA

and Lakshmmamma used to loving address the Mallikarjuna Sastry as

ANNA. Both used to discuss terse vedantic topics beside stinking

dust bin and flowing sewerage water. That scene was wonderfully

described as " Dakshinamurthy in the form of a Lady imparting Jnana

to Vriddha shishya " .

 

The Avvas's Ashottara nama, sahasranama and ashtaka was composed by

my gurunatha which describes her state of atmic bliss. She used to

be in Manonmani Avastha which is described as " Maha Shunya " in our

parampara.

 

Even after her passing away from physical plane, she guided in some

of the aspects of Yoga to my gurunatha. It needs a special mention

that she mastered two of the difficult yogas 1) Lambika Yoga 2)

Khanda Yoga. During the nights, she used to separate her body parts

and place them in the dust bin. One day, a municipality sweeper

unaware of the yogic feat of Avva was collecting the dust from the

bin. He was frightened to see the severed pieces of the body of

Avva and ran away. After a couple of hours after the dawn he came

with a policeman but to his utter surprise the Avva as usual was

licking the left overs in the dust bin.

 

She left her mortal coil and her image is installed over her

Samadhi. Even today, if anybody in a drunk state happens to sleep

near the Samadhi during the night, the next morning he is seen

somewhere away from Samadhi. Mother Lakshmamika Avva gives nice

deha shuddhi to such people who does mischief at her Samadhi

premises.

 

This small article is a homage to the GREAT MAHAYOGINI LAKSHMAMMA

AVADHUTA AVVA who transformed the lives of my gurunatha and

Mahamahopadhyaya Vedanta Bhaskara Mimamsa Kesari Srividya Vachaspati

Brahmasri Gollapinni Mallikarjuna Sastry.

 

With regards,

sriram

 

 

 

 

, Gopi <antarurjas wrote:

>

> Dear Sriram

>

> Thanks for the clarification.  When I asked the question, I

didnot have caste in my mind at all. I wish I had clarified.

>

> Recently during a discussion on dasamahaavidhya and other related

devIs, there was a reference to chaNDAli devi, who represents the

4'th varNa since HER pooja is suppose to be difficult/ SHE is

difficult to grasp my the upasaka. My doubt came from this aspect ,

when i heard the name trivarNA.

>

> praNAm

> Gopi

> Thankfully, SHE has exposed me to some extremely exhaulted

upAsakAs, who are suppose to be from the 4'th varNA. If only I 

could reach the sadhana levels that they have reached...... ._,___

>

>

>

>

>

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