avatarahood in veda?

March 10, 2009

Dear satish,

Can avatarahood be prophesied in veda? I am afraid. Though there are certain

arguments related to avatara of sankara and it's prophesy in shatarudriya. But

those arguments lack relevant " puShTi " .

The names " vyuptakesha " , " sankarAya " etc. are the vibutis of Siva in the form of

shaven head (a sanyasi or bhikshu), bestower of bliss etc.

Kanchi mahaswami had a " knack of narrating " some stories during lighter moments

to entertain kindergartens like us. I also remember that Acharya Gowdapada was a

" brahmarAkshasA " in his previous birth due to the curse of Patanjali " . He would

be freed from this curse only by the patanjali who in the next birth would be

govindabhagavatpadAcharya. So, it seems, govindapada redeemed the gaudapada from

the curse of brahmarakshasa.

I don't know how far it is true as this seems to be there in patanjali vijaya by

ramabhadra dikshitar. I personally did not study this work. So, i cannot comment

on this.

There is also another similar story related to sage vidyaranya. It seems after

the passing away of vidyaranya, he became " brahmarAkshasa " . So, it was shri

ganapati satchidananda swamiji of mysore datta pitam redeemed the

brahmarakshasatva of vidyaranya (it seems the sukshma sarira of vidyaranya was

present in the form of brahmarakshasa till the advent of ganapati

sacchidananda)....lol....(refer the biography of ganapati sacchidananda swami by

Shri Kuppa Krishnamurthy). As per the story, Sage Vidyaranya got

brahmarakshasatva as he received a-pAtra dAna at the time of harihararaya and

bukkaraya.

So, it seems, the birth secrets of acharya parampara is " Brahmarakshasatva "

which needs to be condemned and also

BLASPHEMOUS.

with regards,

sriram

March 10, 2009

Namaste,

Exactly my point. The guy(a self professed fake shrIvidya guru active on the

internet?) who started the narration of this " shankara as shiva avatAra in veda "

apparently felt ashamed later as can be seen in his blog and hence tried a

covert but as usual a lame counter attack.

But I have to agree with him on one point and that is also my intention: When

people get exposed to thoughts outside convention it will set up a process of

introspection and rethinking of dearly held beliefs which is why, I often cross

post articles by others.

Hope it will make some people " grow up " . These stories are meant for little kids

and it may be a bad idea(and at times harmful or counter productive) to hold on

to those even after growing up.

It should not be misunderstood that this is a suggestion to move away from our

traditions. It is to make people cut down the irrelevant and unproductive

thoughts/beliefs(which are not required for sAdhana anyway..) that usually pass

as orthodoxy / tradition.

Regards

, " sriram " <sriram_sapthasathi wrote:

>

> Dear satish,

>

> Can avatarahood be prophesied in veda? I am afraid. Though there are certain

arguments related to avatara of sankara and it's prophesy in shatarudriya. But

those arguments lack relevant " puShTi " .

>

> The names " vyuptakesha " , " sankarAya " etc. are the vibutis of Siva in the form

of shaven head (a sanyasi or bhikshu), bestower of bliss etc.

>

> Kanchi mahaswami had a " knack of narrating " some stories during lighter

moments to entertain kindergartens like us. I also remember that Acharya

Gowdapada was a " brahmarAkshasA " in his previous birth due to the curse of

Patanjali " . He would be freed from this curse only by the patanjali who in the

next birth would be govindabhagavatpadAcharya. So, it seems, govindapada

redeemed the gaudapada from the curse of brahmarakshasa.

>

> I don't know how far it is true as this seems to be there in patanjali vijaya

by ramabhadra dikshitar. I personally did not study this work. So, i cannot

comment on this.

>

> There is also another similar story related to sage vidyaranya. It seems after

the passing away of vidyaranya, he became " brahmarAkshasa " . So, it was shri

ganapati satchidananda swamiji of mysore datta pitam redeemed the

brahmarakshasatva of vidyaranya (it seems the sukshma sarira of vidyaranya was

present in the form of brahmarakshasa till the advent of ganapati

sacchidananda)....lol....(refer the biography of ganapati sacchidananda swami by

Shri Kuppa Krishnamurthy). As per the story, Sage Vidyaranya got

brahmarakshasatva as he received a-pAtra dAna at the time of harihararaya and

bukkaraya.

>

> So, it seems, the birth secrets of acharya parampara is " Brahmarakshasatva "

which needs to be condemned and also

> BLASPHEMOUS.

>

> with regards,

> sriram

>

March 10, 2009

my point exactly! we have this strong need to glorify and deify great persons

and are not satisfied till we manage to make them an avatra or amsha of some

known deity or some previous maha purusha! some how try to find a rationale for

their greatness?

Identifying Adi Sankara as an avatara of Sankara adds no value to the student,

His philosophy and actions are sufficient to qualify His greatness.

the same goes for the efforts to qualify Kanchi Mahaswamy as an avatara of Adi

Sankara, which again does not add much value, His greatness is self evident in

His actions, we can definitely compare Him to Adi Sankara and bring out the

similarities etc..but to make Him an avataram to what end?

regards