Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 This is a view point of a great scholar in Atharvana Veda and a Srividyopasaka. Though i have certain difference of opinion regarding the advaita & tantra, hope these statements may turn out to be a good topic for discussion.  ******************** Was advaita vedAnta connected to shrIvidyA from its inception? Is the mahApaduka mantra a “genuine†aspect of shrIvidyA? Are sha~Nkara and gauDapAda really connected to shrIvidyA? advaita vedAnta has its origins in one set of the diverse ideas presented by philosophers from the vedic period. Its subsequent development stood on the great philosophical exegesis of sha~Nkara’s school. Tradition also connects sha~Nkara’s school with a certain form of shrIvidyA, which tends to ignore or remove the kula doctrines and this is certainly the form of shrIvidyA practiced by modern initiates affiliated with sha~Nkara’s tradition. But there are some issues amongst these initiates:  1) Many of the modern initiates while very knowledgeable about their paddhati-s and mantra prayoga-s have a relatively poor understanding of the root sources: the diverse kula texts including the root tantra-s of shrIvidyA. 2) Many aspirants as well as lay devotees actively practice texts like lalitA-sahasranAmaM and saundaryalaharI but do not recognize or in some cases deny the kula doctrine at their core. 3) They pay tremendous importance to the mahApaduka mantra which incorporates upaniShadic mahAvAkya-s. There is no evidence that the mahApaduka mantra was central to any kula teaching. From early times the brAhmaNa-s migrated out of their smArta baseline to develop new systems of philosophy or knowledge. In some cases they converted entirely to these systems, like the nAstIka-matas, or in other cases created versions that spanned a spectrum from purely smArta to something which might contradict smArta norms. Likewise, in shrIvidyA’s development from early on there were forms in line with smArta norms (e.g. prapa~nchasAra and shAradA-tilaka) as well as those transgressing smArta norms (e.g. parashurAma kalpa sUtra-s; though from the very adoption of a mImAMsaka style is indicative of the brahminical origins of the PKS), both systematized by Brahmins of ultimately smArta origin. The pa~ncha-makara might not necessarily be adopted by those who remain smArta because their norms are violated by the 5 ma-s, but the principle of kAmakala worship and the ShaT-chakra-s, both of which are drawn plainly from the original kula doctrine, are retained at the heart of shrIvidyopAsana by even these smArta-s. But nowhere in any of their early sources do we find the mahApaduka and upaniShadic statements. Now the smArta-s appear to have created another set of Agama-s much closer to their own pattern of worship – the shubhAgama pa~nchaka. But interestingly these hardly have any popularity compared to the root tantra-s which follow the unadulterated kula doctrine. Now I have only seen fragments of these and these are clearly later in provenance than the early kula texts. Advaita of the early kaula-s of matsyendra’s successors does not mean the same as the vedantic advaita. There a-dvaitam appears (at least to me) to be interpreted as the lack of duality in worship – thereby allowing the more kaula elements (the pure-impure distinction breaks down). So the vedantic advaita does not in anyway appear to be inherent to the kula doctrine.  So, in conclusion:  I believe the evidence favors the advaitins of the sha~Nkara tradition have only secondarily adopted shrIvidyA and are behind the creation of the mahApAduka mantra.  They have even gone to the extent of claiming that one can get the guru-status or a higher level mantrAdhikAra only with this mahApAduka dIkSha. My personal opinion is that every one is entitled to their own tradition. So, if some one is affiliated with a sha~Nkara maTha they may follow their maThAdhipati and Acharya-s, but the claims regarding mahApaduka are not binding on all tAntrIka-s.  ***************************************  wth regards, sriram   Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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