Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Sri Sriram wrote : I am not sure whether the words and statement that have been marked in asterisk has been read superficially. Kindly ponder on the 2 words Visualization & Experience once again sir. Visualisation & Experience of: 1) Prakasa & Vimarsa which is Guru tattva 2) Unmani & Manonmani avastha (needless to mention about the manana & chintana of panchadasi as per 15 bhedas as mentioned in Varivasya Rahasya especially the Kaulikartha & Mahavakyartha Chintana)- which is mantra chintana 3) Nitya anusandhana of Chit tattva in Hridaya Akasa (3rd aspect of Tripurasundari among sthula, sukshma & para rupas) 4) Atma Vichara(the nija rupa siva tattva of the upasaka). Namasthe, I have read all these in the small collections of the SRIVIDYA literature which I have. But while I understand it intelectually it is difficult to practice a fraction of it. When I asked about my predicament to one of the Mahans, whom I do not want to name in a public forum like this said -- " Do Not Bother about any Visualization or any experience. You just pray and pray to HER through variuos means available to an Upasaka -- Ambaa Aradhana like Japa,Chanting of DM,performing continuous LS archana,reciting shlokas,participating in homas,yagnas and listening to Vedantas etc. Then finally it JUST HAPPENS -- AMBAAL WILL REVEAL HERSELF IN THE Agnya Chakra and till then one will not know what is happening within oneself " . So the Best option is to await Her Grace. With Koti Namaskarams to pratyksha Kaamakshi Maha Swamy, I would like to stop this thread on Moksha. With Warm Regards Ganapathy -- Vijyalakshmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 ******************* I have read all these in the small collections of the SRIVIDYA literature which I have. But while I understand it intelectually it is difficult to practice a fraction of it. ********************************************** Don't worry sir, i too belong to the same category. While you are capable of *understanding* the *Srividya tattva* atleast intellectually but even that too i am incapable. I am just an ordinary fool in this forum. So, that imply that though we are initiated in panchadasi mantra/navavarana archana etc. etc. we are NOT srividya upasakas, per se. What exactly is Srividya Upasana, has already been defined by Shri Bhaskararaya Makhin where the benchmarks have clearly been defined. Only such mahAns who are srividya upasana siddhas like Kanchi Mahaswami, Rajam Mami, Chidanandanatha etc. etc. are the ONLY Srividya Upasakas. And ONLY to such Upasaka Siromanis, their's would be the LAST BIRTH. And this is what is meant by *Charame janmani cha srividya*. NOT FOR PEOPLE LIKE US. LET US BEAR THIS IN MIND. iti shrI chanDI bhakta pAda reNu.... sriram , ganapathy = = vijaya <srividya101 wrote: > > > Sri Sriram wrote : > > > > I am not sure whether the words and statement that have been marked in asterisk has been read superficially. Kindly ponder on the 2 words Visualization & Experience once again sir. > > Visualisation & Experience of: > > 1) Prakasa & Vimarsa which is Guru tattva > 2) Unmani & Manonmani avastha (needless to mention about the manana & chintana of panchadasi as per 15 bhedas as mentioned in Varivasya Rahasya especially the Kaulikartha & Mahavakyartha Chintana)- which is mantra chintana > 3) Nitya anusandhana of Chit tattva in Hridaya Akasa (3rd aspect of Tripurasundari among sthula, sukshma & para rupas) > 4) Atma Vichara(the nija rupa siva tattva of the upasaka). > > > > Namasthe, > > I have read all these in the small collections of the SRIVIDYA literature which I have. But while I understand it intelectually it is difficult to practice a fraction of it. > > When I asked about my predicament to one of the Mahans, whom I do not want to name in a public forum like this said > > > -- " Do Not Bother about any Visualization or any experience. You just pray and pray to HER through variuos means available to an Upasaka -- Ambaa Aradhana like Japa,Chanting of DM,performing continuous LS archana,reciting shlokas,participating in homas,yagnas and listening to Vedantas etc. > > Then finally it JUST HAPPENS -- AMBAAL WILL REVEAL HERSELF IN THE Agnya Chakra and till then one will not know what is happening within oneself " . > > So the Best option is to await Her Grace. With Koti Namaskarams to pratyksha Kaamakshi Maha Swamy, I would like to stop this thread on Moksha. > > With Warm Regards > > Ganapathy -- Vijyalakshmy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Sri Matre Namah Going through the lines there are very Interesting similarities in the two Different versions. > 1) Sri: Prakasa & Vimarsa which is Guru tattva > Gan: When I asked about my predicament to one of the Mahans, whom I do not want to name in a public forum like this said .... Following the Guru guru Tattva > Sri: 2) Unmani & Manonmani avastha needless to mention about the manana & chintana of panchadasi as per 15 bhedas as mentioned in Varivasya Rahasya especially the Kaulikartha & Mahavakyartha Chintana)- which is mantra chintana > Gan: -- " Do Not Bother about any Visualization or any experience. You just pray and pray to HER through variuos means available to an Upasaka This is what else then Chintana > Sri: 3) Nitya anusandhana of Chit tattva in Hridaya Akasa (3rd aspect of Tripurasundari among sthula, sukshma & para rupas) Gan: -- Ambaa Aradhana like Japa,Chanting of DM,performing continuous LS archana,reciting shlokas,participating in homas,yagnas and listening to Vedantas etc. Progressing in Sadhana (Japa,Archana,homa and Yagna) Yagna can be taken as Pancha Maha Yagna) and elevating to higher levels Sthula sukshma and Para rupas. > Sri:4) Atma Vichara(the nija rupa siva tattva of the upasaka). >Gan: Then finally it JUST HAPPENS -- AMBAAL WILL REVEAL HERSELF IN THE Agnya Chakra and till then one will not know what is happening within oneself " . knowing whats happening within oneself is Definetly Atma vichara. The Literature for throwing light on these subjects are not mere flow of pen. But they are great darshanas (visualization of Sadhana)and we should be thankful to the Rishis,siddhas and Great Sadhakas for documenting to the deepest extent and we should be proud that even for today no other practice has come to the extend of comparison (forget about challenging) These can be termed as different perception's, I think one can take the liberty of terming them as Innocent Approach (who doesn't bother visualization)and structured approach (one who confirms sadhana step by step with pramanas). Another Interesting observation in Ganapathy jee post is mentioning Agna Chakra which is again recognized by Intellect ? Namaste Diwakar , ganapathy = = vijaya <srividya101 wrote: > Namasthe, > > I have read all these in the small collections of the SRIVIDYA literature which I have. But while I understand it intelectually it is difficult to practice a fraction of it. > > When I asked about my predicament to one of the Mahans, whom I do not want to name in a public forum like this said > > > -- " Do Not Bother about any Visualization or any experience. You just pray and pray to HER through variuos means available to an Upasaka -- Ambaa Aradhana like Japa,Chanting of DM,performing continuous LS archana,reciting shlokas,participating in homas,yagnas and listening to Vedantas etc. > > Then finally it JUST HAPPENS -- AMBAAL WILL REVEAL HERSELF IN THE Agnya Chakra and till then one will not know what is happening within oneself " . > > So the Best option is to await Her Grace. With Koti Namaskarams to pratyksha Kaamakshi Maha Swamy, I would like to stop this thread on Moksha. > > With Warm Regards > > Ganapathy -- Vijyalakshmy > > > > Sri Sriram wrote : > > > > I am not sure whether the words and statement that have been marked in asterisk has been read superficially. Kindly ponder on the 2 words Visualization & Experience once again sir. > > Visualisation & Experience of: > > 1) Prakasa & Vimarsa which is Guru tattva > 2) Unmani & Manonmani avastha (needless to mention about the manana & chintana of panchadasi as per 15 bhedas as mentioned in Varivasya Rahasya especially the Kaulikartha & Mahavakyartha Chintana)- which is mantra chintana > 3) Nitya anusandhana of Chit tattva in Hridaya Akasa (3rd aspect of Tripurasundari among sthula, sukshma & para rupas) > 4) Atma Vichara(the nija rupa siva tattva of the upasaka). > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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