Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 It is my usual observation that you snub my mails as *misleading*. Well, now-a-days i don't have the least interest to answer the mails as i am quite pre-occupied with other important things as navaratri is fast approaching. But having misquoted the Kanchi Mahaperiyaval i could not resist myself from giving a rejoinder to you. I see that you quite often quote the Kanchi Mahaswamigal but i am quite surprised with the recent post regarding the varna ashrama dharma. Moreover, your recent post is a sort of *solace* which has been twisted as per your *own convenience* and the voice of Mahaperiyaval has been misquoted. Given below are the words of Kanchi Mahaswamigal on the brahmana dharma: *********************** The Brahmin's body is not meant to experience sensual enjoyment but to preserve the Vedas for the good of mankind. It is for this purpose that he has to perform rites like upanayana. He has to care for his body only with the object of preserving the Vedic mantras and through them of protecting all creatures. Others may have comfortable occupations that bring in much money but that should be no cause for the Brahmin to feel tempted. He ought to think of his livelihood only after he has carried out his duties. In the past when he was loyal to his Brahminic dharma the ruler as well as society gave him land and money to sustain himself. Now conditions have changed and Brahmin today has to make some effort to earn his money. But he must on no account try to amass wealth nor must he adopt unsastric means to earn money. Indeed he must live in poverty. It is only when he does not seek pleasure and practices self-denial that the light of Atmic knowledge will shrine in him. This light will make the world live. The Brahmin must not go abroad in search of fortune, giving up the customs and practices he is heir to. His fundamental duty is to preserve the Vedic mantras and follow his own dharma. Earning money is secondary to him. ******************************* HOPE THE WORDS OF MAHASWAMI IS NOT *MISLEADING* TO YOU. NOW, HAVING READ THE WORDS OF MAHASWAMI WHO DECRIED LUXURIES FOR A TRUE BRAHMIN, ARE YOUR WORDS " .....having contributed to the exchequer of the punya Bhumi thousands of $ and driving a BMW or any car would not make you per se a Pseudo Brahmin...... " a misleading remark. Apart from the above, given below are the words of Brahmasri Tadepali Raghavanarayana Shastry who never deviated from his varna ashrama dharma: A brahmana should perform: 1) Nitya sandhya during 3 sandhyas 2) Devatarchana 3) Agnihotra 4) Nitya Aupasana 5) Brahma Yajna 6) Veda adhyayana 7) Sthalipaka every fortnight during new moon day 8) Should perform jyotishtoma / agnishtoma in his lifetime Apart from these: 1) He should not think of next day's meal 2) He should beg his food ie., madhukara 3) He should perform the relvant prayaschita incase any skipping of nitya / namittika karma 4) He should not maintain bank balances 5) He should always bent upon teaching shastras and veda to the adhikaris 6) He should maintain shikha, kati sutra and yajnopavitha always 7) He should speak the truth, at any cost 8) He should have viveka and vairagya 9) He should be clean in character 10) He should never leave his Agni upasana and nityagni hotra 11) He should assimilate the essence of vedas and should dwelve in vedanta sutras 12) He should maintain sadachara (right conduct) The above mentioned dharma was advocated and practiced by Shri Raghavanarayana Shastrigal and also my gurunatha. They never cared for money, name, fame & bank balances. The gave least importance to bodily pleasures whose aim & objective in life was to maintain Agni Upasana & Agni Chayana. Though these may be my emotional outbursts, they are my role models of srividya. Hence, having observed such stallwarts of srividya from close quarters, i might have given certain observations of mine which are obviously *misleading* to your goodself. CONCEPT OF BHOGA IN SRIVIDYA Also, i would like to mention that the concept of BHOGA with reference to Srividya (which is a popular quote) ie., " Sritripurasundari sevatatparaanaam – bhogascha mokshashcha karastha eva " is HIGHLY MISINTERPRETED. I have mentioned this in my older posts. This definition was given by Shri Raghavana Narayana Sastry & my gurunatha which may sound *misleading* to you. Well, how do you define Bhukti and what are the parameters to define that. A nityagni hotri who has 2 morsels of food to support his family and yet is *CONTENT* with what he has and is in blissful mood and never swerves himself from nitya anushtana, this sort of *mental attitude* which is termed as *Self-contentment* is termed as Bhukti. On the contrary, a person who rolls in material riches and yet *craves* for sensual pleasures / money is not termed as Bhogi. People say that upasakas of Srividya have both Bhukti and Mukthi. Here, Bhukti does not mean that upasakas would roll in wealth, would get 9 nidhis, 8 siddhis, 8 forms of material riches etc. Bhukti is " contentment with what one has " . This is the " mental satisfaction " and " contentment " which is a state of mind. This is Bhukti. People with this " Misconception of rolling in wealth " undertake the Srividya Upasana and hence fail miserably. So, the signs of a true srividya upasaka is that HE IS CONTENT WITH WHAT ONE HAS TO SUPPORT HIS FAMILY AND WHOSE SOLE OBJECTIVE IS TO LIBERATE HIMSELF FROM THE SHACKLES OF THE MUNDANE EXISTENCE AND MERGE WITH THE CHITKALA. Before making the remarks on Naivedya, please go thru the *Devi Panchastavi* of Dharmacharya, Tripuropanishad Bhashya of Shri Bhaskararaya, Setubandha. These are not *misleading remarks* but the remarks of Shri Bhaskararaya. If you want quotes of Shri Bhaskararaya, i am ready to give them from my personal manuscripts. I don't want to answer anymore questions on these issues. Hope this would be an eye opener to your goodself. iti shri chanDi bhakta pAda rENu... sriram , ganapathy = = vijaya <srividya101 wrote: > > Namasthe. >  >  > The author of the mail writes as : >  > This sort of shaucha niyamas & achara dharma of whether to offer *foreign* fruits to Mother did not arise when we are earning *foreign* currencies in dollars; breathing *foreign* oxygen; enjoying *foreign* luxuries etc. Suddenly we are reminded of our achara dharma when it comes to offer seasonal fruits to Mother Divinewhich i would say a sheer hypocricy and a show off of our *pseudo-brahminism* . Please excuse me for my harsh tone here. > > Nityotsava prescribes the *disposable* twiks. One should brush the teeth with *Vanaspati Sukta* and go to the river, perform sankalpa by chanting *Aghamarshukta* by offering the Arghya and > perform a ritualistic bath with Mula Vidya. > > I am sorry to say that our day of Srividya Upasana starts with Colgate Paste / Tooth Brush is whose usage is Ucchista. Then a cup of coffee (*kalau coffee prANah says my gurunatha... ..). > Ritual of bath with municipal stale water that too in a couple of seconds; Sandhya vandana thrown to winds with a maximum gayatri japa of 10. Then all the mula mantras of dasa mahavidyas > alongwith purva / uttaranga (a min. of 10). Mahapaduka / Guru Traya / Maha Shodasi / Nirvana Sundari blah blah ......... (a min. of 10). Navavarana Archana ......20 minutes... > By 9:00 AMentire Srividya Upasana is over, and off to Office. Once we land in office, we lay our heads at the feet of our boss who could be a drunkard / chain smoker / a corrupt official. > > THIS IS NOT SRIVIDYA UPASANA, I AM SORRY. > > C'mon, let us shrug off pseudo-brahminism and be bold enough to confess that we are *nothing* before the Divine Sport of Mother. > > > >  > Comments : >  > The author’s observation and emotional outburst is nothing but an exhibition of confusion of religious ,economic and civic persona of a Brahmin in the contemporary times and context of living and I think this sort of observation could mislead unwittingly some devotees bringing in a guilty feeling . I am not making a judgement on my own but based on the Maha swamy of Kaanchi’s voice of God. >  > In the lighter Vein. ( No harsh feelings Please ) >  > It is ironical that while the author has made tall claims in several mails that his rich spiritual lineage is traced to Kavaya kanda Ganapathy and it is surprising in this mail ,he has  suddenly jumped down and expressed his heart as a “ pseudo Brahminâ€. >  > Now let us recall some of Maha Swamy’s speech. > MASTERâ€S VOICE ----   QUOTE : >  > Brahmins owing to their learning, conduct,character,and other qualitieswere regarded by others as belonging to a higher plane and came to be called as Ayyars ( Ayya is call with respect ) Even the term denotes a Jaathy and not a race and to this race all varnas belong. The Brahmins while they are equal among varnas also carry a distinct identity which makes them a shoulder a responsibility. > I have been prescribing several anushtanams and among those please think over as how many of them you are NOT doing, how many you can do and how many you are able to do or not not capable of not doing based on your routine as you have all taken to other vocation for a living. Please stick to whatever anushtanams you can do without fail and atleast regret that you are unable to do others. >  > One should understand clearly that involving on once’s vocation to-day and earning dharmically is NOT A LOWLY LIFE FOR A BRAHMIN. > Learning through higher education and acquiring skills in all fields of education is very important and it helps us and our country in many ways for US AND OUR NATION and is NOT INFERIOR AND THERE IS NO TWO OPINION. >  > But owing to the limitation of time at-least after retirement pl observe the achara anustanams and try to live a life of a Brahmin. >  > Take the retirement as a Vara Prasada and learn the achara and anustanams if not known and with this mind set lead a life of Brahmin. >  > UNQUOTE : >  > Being a member of this Ayyar community, I deem it to be fortunate to have been born in this noble community and believe that I have inherited some good qualities from my lineage as outlined by Maha Swamy. > Earning Dharmically $ or Euro or any currency as a result of having acquired higher skills and having contributed to the exchequer of the punya Bhumi thousands of $ and driving a BMW or any car would not make you per se a Pseudo Brahmin. >  > If the author thinks that we have to go to Stone age then it is not what the Prathykshya Kaamakshy has reiterated as aforesaid. So this is MISLEADING and not a Dharma pertaining to kala,desa,varthamana.. >  > As per scriptures I believe in Dharmartha Kama Moksha and while I have achieved by Ambaa’s grace Dharmartha and by this Kama fulfilled and contented, through Her sincere Upasana look forward for Her Grace. She is Bhoga Moksha Dhayini and pl do not have guilt if you are a Brahmin belonging to this category and enjoy Bhoga by HER GRACE. >  > The author further writes : >  > Sandhya vandana thrown to winds with a maximum gayatri japa of 10. Then all the mula mantras of dasa mahavidyas > alongwith purva / uttaranga (a min. of 10). Mahapaduka / Guru Traya / Maha Shodasi / Nirvana Sundari blah blah ......... (a min. of 10). Navavarana Archana ......20 minutes... > By 9:00 AMentire Srividya Upasana is over, and off to Office. Once we land >  > Comments : >  > The author has thinks that what he is doing is irrelevant and I will deal on this in my next mail purely quoting from Maha Swamy’s speech on Mantra Sastra. >  > Also on the Neiveidya offered to Ambaa which the author quotes, in my subsequent mails, as it not exclusively right. >  > I do not claim any superior knowledge of scriptures or sri Vidya Sastras but by Ambaa's grace I have been blessed with the contacts of Mahaans. >  >  With Warm Regards >  > Ganapathy -- Vijyalakshmy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 *************************************** It is ironical that while the author has made tall claims in several mails that his rich spiritual lineage is traced to Kavaya kanda Ganapathy and it is surprising in this mail ,he has  suddenly jumped down and expressed his heart as a pseudo Brahmin. ********************************************* Well, i never asked anybody whether i should offer Mangostein, straw berries,black berries, cherries,snake fruit,Avacados,a fruit looking just like tomatoes (native of pakistan). Neither did i ask the questions like are there any restrictions for offering certain dry friuts which are not native to India. These are questions put forth by your goodself after a 15 years stay in Saudi Arabia whose inhabitants' life style i am quite aware of. These questions come because at the back of the mind, there is a false prestige of protecting one's caste identity varna ashrama inspite of crossing the shores of India which is called Superiortiy Complex which has to be shrugged off. I am not against you or anybody else going abroad for career development or for earning money. What irked me is that when the *purpose of life* is something else for a Brahmin, are not we deviating from the path of varna ashrama dharma? ******************************************* The author further writes : Sandhya vandana thrown to winds with a maximum gayatri japa of 10. Then all the mula mantras of dasa mahavidyas alongwith purva / uttaranga (a min. of 10). Mahapaduka / Guru Traya / Maha Shodasi / Nirvana Sundari blah blah ......... (a min. of 10). Navavarana Archana ......20 minutes...By 9:00 AMentire Srividya Upasana is over, and off to Office. Once we land Comments : The author has thinks that what he is doing is irrelevant and I will deal on this in my next mail purely quoting from Maha Swamy's speech on Mantra Sastra. ************************************************ My statement is directed to such persons who claim to be purna dikshitas. My definition of Srividya Anushtana is something else which i am never tired of saying that SRIVIDYA IS A WAY OF LIFE AND NOT JUST MUMBLING OF CERTAIN MANTRAS. Well it is my challenge thrown to such people that how many are doing the mantra japa as prescribed in Mantra Shastra, per se. How many are observing the kula-akula chakra lekhana? How many are observing the mantroddipana vidhana of mula vidya everyday? How many are aware of the jata & sutaka of mantra vidya and how many are following the japa vidhana as prescribed with matrika varna mala japa. What are their observations during antar matrika nyasa? I hope your goodself having hailing from good upasana background and having the satsanga with Goda Sastrigal & Lopamudra Swarupini Smt. Rajam Mami, would have the samskara of understanding my agony and would not brush aside as another *misleading* remark. with this i relapse into solitude. iti shri chanDI bhakta pAda rENu.... sriram > The author further writes : >  > Sandhya vandana thrown to winds with a maximum gayatri japa of 10. Then all the mula mantras of dasa mahavidyas > alongwith purva / uttaranga (a min. of 10). Mahapaduka / Guru Traya / Maha Shodasi / Nirvana Sundari blah blah ......... (a min. of 10). Navavarana Archana ......20 minutes... > By 9:00 AMentire Srividya Upasana is over, and off to Office. Once we land >  > Comments : >  > The author has thinks that what he is doing is irrelevant and I will deal on this in my next mail purely quoting from Maha Swamy’s speech on Mantra Sastra. >  > Also on the Neiveidya offered to Ambaa which the author quotes, in my subsequent mails, as it not exclusively right. >  > I do not claim any superior knowledge of scriptures or sri Vidya Sastras but by Ambaa's grace I have been blessed with the contacts of Mahaans. >  >  With Warm Regards >  > Ganapathy -- Vijyalakshmy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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