Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Is it acceptable to perform arcana after the avaranarcana using the saptasati mantras. i had seen it being done in the house of a sadhaka, but i was told elsewhere that it is not appropriate to combine candi and lalita krama. I have seen in Sri Matam of Kaanchi before 10 years, hundreds of Sadhakas, using Chandi Navakshari as Samputikarana, while doing Lalitha Sahasranama archana. With Warm Regards Ganapathy -- Vijyalakshmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I do not think it is correct to do Lalitha sahasranama samputitha with chandi or sapsathasati parayana stanzas. Lalitha sahasranama and trisathy has their own previleges and these cannot be violated. However people do srisukta samputitha with panchadasakshari and some mandalis do Lalitha sahasranama with chandi navakshari., and there is no satisfactory explanation for this. Perhaps these are done to satrisfy one's own ego or under the false impression that it would provide more powerful results.In fact there is no sanction to do havan using chandi slokas, whilst the approved procedure is to use chandi navakshari mantras alone for doing havan. Who cares. The Vaidhiks who have now turned to be upasakas and raising huge voice and turbulance, pour all sorts of materials into the havan kund, forgetting the fact that there is no sanction anywhere for such use. Were the great rishis including Lobamudra used textiles, fruits, and other things into the havan. They used even for poornahuthi only one samith, as the energy of the divine was more important to them than the offerings. We are wasting a lot of food to fulfil our own ego and I do not know when good sense will dawn to avoid this criminal wastage of food. Real seekers of Divine Mother will not use all these stuff and only those who want to show up their ego and enter prayoga marga for earning money or harming some one, use the items., forgetting the fact that they are unable to recognise agni as the Divine Mother herself and still treat agni as a carrier, as we do in pitru karmas. Agni becomes the divine energy and has no qualities of created flame and heat in any true havan. What to say: regards, S.SHANGARANARAYANAN srividya101 Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:05:42 -0800 Chandi and LS Is it acceptable to perform arcana after the avaranarcana using the saptasati mantras. i had seen it being done in the house of a sadhaka, but i was told elsewhere that it is not appropriate to combine candi and lalita krama. I have seen in Sri Matam of Kaanchi before 10 years, hundreds of Sadhakas, using Chandi Navakshari as Samputikarana, while doing Lalitha Sahasranama archana. With Warm Regards Ganapathy -- Vijyalakshmy _______________ Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Pranams, The practice of samputikarana, per se, is for kamya prayogas and as our elderly gentleman Shri Sankaranarayanan said, samputikarana of Navakshari with LS is just one of those prayogas. First of all, what is the necessity of that prayoga of samputikarana of Navakshari with LS. Generally, Tritari or Chaturtari (depending upon the guru sampradaya) is used for samputikarana. Just a side note: The LS names " nistula nilachikura .....durgama durlabha..... " encodes Chandi Navakshari Mantra. regs, sriram , ganapathy = = vijaya <srividya101 wrote: > > > Is it acceptable to perform arcana after the avaranarcana using the saptasati mantras. i had seen it being done in the house of a sadhaka, but i was told elsewhere that it is not appropriate to combine candi and lalita krama. > > > > I have seen in Sri Matam of Kaanchi before 10 years, hundreds of Sadhakas, using Chandi Navakshari as Samputikarana, while doing Lalitha Sahasranama archana. > > With Warm Regards > > > Ganapathy -- Vijyalakshmy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 pranams, <<< In fact there is no sanction to do havan using chandi slokas, whilst the approved procedure is to use chandi navakshari mantras alone for doing havan >>> I believe this discussion took place long back last year. Please refer the 35th sloka of Vaikrika Rahasya of Devi Mahatyam. // pratislOkam cha juhUyAt pAyasam tila sarpishA juhUyAt stOtramantrairvA chandikAyai shubham havih // The Chidambara Samhita, Marichi Kalpa and Katyanana Tantra do mention Sapthasati Homa alongwith 700 Swaha-kArAs. As regards the homa dravya, the above sloka is again the pramana: " pAyasam & tila " ie., rice porridge mixed with ghee & sesame seeds. regs, sriram , S Sangaranarayanan <sangarsai wrote: > > > I do not think it is correct to do Lalitha sahasranama samputitha with chandi or sapsathasati parayana stanzas. Lalitha sahasranama and trisathy has their own previleges and these cannot be violated. However people do srisukta samputitha with panchadasakshari and some mandalis do Lalitha sahasranama with chandi navakshari., and there is no satisfactory explanation for this. Perhaps these are done to satrisfy one's own ego or under the false impression that it would provide more powerful results.In fact there is no sanction to do havan using chandi slokas, whilst the approved procedure is to use chandi navakshari mantras alone for doing havan. Who cares. The Vaidhiks who have now turned to be upasakas and raising huge voice and turbulance, pour all sorts of materials into the havan kund, forgetting the fact that there is no sanction anywhere for such use. Were the great rishis including Lobamudra used textiles, fruits, and other things into the havan. They used even for poornahuthi only one samith, as the energy of the divine was more important to them than the offerings. We are wasting a lot of food to fulfil our own ego and I do not know when good sense will dawn to avoid this criminal wastage of food. > Real seekers of Divine Mother will not use all these stuff and only those who want to show up their ego and enter prayoga marga for earning money or harming some one, use the items., forgetting the fact that they are unable to recognise agni as the Divine Mother herself and still treat agni as a carrier, as we do in pitru karmas. Agni becomes the divine energy and has no qualities of created flame and heat in any true havan. What to say: > regards, > S.SHANGARANARAYANAN > > > srividya101 > Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:05:42 -0800 > Chandi and LS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it acceptable to perform arcana after the avaranarcana using the saptasati mantras. i had seen it being done in the house of a sadhaka, but i was told elsewhere that it is not appropriate to combine candi and lalita krama. > > > > I have seen in Sri Matam of Kaanchi before 10 years, hundreds of Sadhakas, using Chandi Navakshari as Samputikarana, while doing Lalitha Sahasranama archana. > > > > With Warm Regards > > > > Ganapathy -- Vijyalakshmy > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear Brother, In my opinion, any dravya offered in the havan kund is purely material and relates to the kamya achievements either for destruction or construction.What were the great rishis offering in the havan. Pure ghee and dried twigs of selected trees. they did not have sarees and all types of modern junks offered into the fire. Unfortunately we do not treat agni as God itself when the prana is installed into the fire of any particular devata we worship. There is absolutely no need to put all these dravyas into the fire. Regards, S.SHANGARANARAYANAN sriram_sapthasathi The practice of samputikarana, per se, is for kamya prayogas and as our elderly gentleman Shri Sankaranarayanan said, samputikarana of Navakshari with LS is just one of those prayogas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 NamaskaramI The subject of the 'Dravya' offered into fire is not as simple as Ghee and twigs. The vicara in the Mimamsa granthas and the Brahmana sections clearly point to the complexity of the issue. The Yaga paddhati is derived from the principles of Srauta Yagas, the prayajas anuyajas etc. Hence it is not proper to brush away the practice of offering vastra etc. Hari Om The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Dear Ones, I still hold my view that offering dravya is only for prayoga and attaining various things in this mundane world. Offering the prana as ahuthi is the only method to get benefits for the karana sareera and beyond, as Krishna said " athma nivedhanam " .. Regards, S.SHANGARANARAYANAN sathyaprcsekhar Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:03:38 +0530 RE: Re: Chandi and LS NamaskaramI The subject of the 'Dravya' offered into fire is not as simple as Ghee and twigs. The vicara in the Mimamsa granthas and the Brahmana sections clearly point to the complexity of the issue. The Yaga paddhati is derived from the principles of Srauta Yagas, the prayajas anuyajas etc. Hence it is not proper to brush away the practice of offering vastra etc. Hari Om Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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