Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear devotees 1. Why is that in the navAvarNa pooja,we always have " kaplayaami " ? What is to be visualised? the act of offering or the devataa that you are offering to? ( in each of the koNa/daLa etc) If it is the devataa, then this is what actually happens in every pooja( unless the devotee is in an exhalted state to have the sAkshaatkaarma of the devataa). so why is it that only in navAvarNa pooja alone, we have this word " kalpayAmi " coming through out 2. If the visualisation is about the offered, then even when you have the item offered ( like dhoopam, dheepam) or in in the appropriate places where tarpaNam is offered, why does the script still talk of kalpayaami ( tarpayAmi namaha)? srI harI Gopi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 In nava avarana puja once you instal your athma (Divine energy) into the sriyantra or maha meru before pooja, you have nothing to offer, because the worshipper, worshipped and the worship becomes one. That is why " kalpayami " is used. Unlike in vaidhika karma, the puja is for the soul and not for the body and mind. S.SHANGARANARAYANAN antarurjas Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:21:02 -0800 kalpanam Dear devotees 1. Why is that in the navAvarNa pooja,we always have " kaplayaami " ? What is to be visualised? the act of offering or the devataa that you are offering to? ( in each of the koNa/daLa etc) If it is the devataa, then this is what actually happens in every pooja( unless the devotee is in an exhalted state to have the sAkshaatkaarma of the devataa). so why is it that only in navAvarNa pooja alone, we have this word " kalpayAmi " coming through out 2. If the visualisation is about the offered, then even when you have the item offered ( like dhoopam, dheepam) or in in the appropriate places where tarpaNam is offered, why does the script still talk of kalpayaami ( tarpayAmi namaha)? srI harI Gopi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Pranams, *********** Why is that in the navAvarNa pooja,we always have " kaplayaami " ? What is to be visualised? the act of offering or the devataa that you are offering to? ( in each of the koNa/daLa etc) *************** Which kalpa recommends the " kalpayami " during navavarana archana? Kindly enlighten me. IMHO, it is " pujayami - tarpayami " during navavarana archana which should be simultaneously done. While uttering " pujayami " , akshatas should be used to left hand and while uttering " tarpayami " , gokshira (cow's milk) should be used for tarpana with right hand. This upachara is in reverse order for vamacharis ie., tarpana with left hand and archana with right hand. The avarana devatas & the chakreshwari devata alongwith corresponding yoginis should be visualised as " abheda " swarupas with Tripurasundari of Bindu sthana. ********************* If it is the devataa, then this is what actually happens in every pooja( unless the devotee is in an exhalted state to have the sAkshaatkaarma of the devataa). so why is it that only in navAvarNa pooja alone, we have this word " kalpayAmi " coming through out ************************* Not only navaavarana archana but for that matter any worship viz., 16 upacharas for any devata, the purpose is to " experience this exalted state only " . Even in shodashopachara puja, what is the purpose of dhyana & anga-puja. Aren't we visualising the murti and respective angas as per dhyana. This " exalted state " is the sAdhya of navavarana archana. If we achieve this " exalted state " then one doesn't require kumkuma, akshata and other paraphernalia. The Antaryaga commences from this exalted state. Shri Chandrasekhara Bharati Mahaswamigal of Sringeri while performing Navavarana Archana used to worship himself and offer the flowers to himself on his brahmarandhra that was kept aside for chakra archana. While performing Lalitha Sahasranama Archana, when the name " janma-mrityu-jarataptha-jana-visranti-dayini " used to come, Swamigal used to go into trance. So, the persons of " exalted state " would behave in similar fashion. *********** If the visualisation is about the offered, then even when you have the item offered ( like dhoopam, dheepam) or in in the appropriate places where tarpaNam is offered, why does the script still talk of kalpayaami ( tarpayAmi namaha ************** What is wrong in visualisaton of offering these things to one's ishta devata? One must not forget that the central point in any puja is " dhyana sloka " . Keeping this dhyana sloka by visualising it in one's mind, one should offer all the respective upacharas and even naivedya. Visualise this act of offering naivedya to one's ishta devata and feel as if he is taking from your hands. IF WE START VISUALISING THESE THINGS, THEN I AM SURE, MECHANICAL WORSHIP OF 16 UPACHARAS OR NAVAAVARANA ARCHANA WOULD NOT PROCEED FURTHER AN INCH. My gurunatha used to give importance to " kavi-hridaya " in upasana & sastra adhyayana. Unless one has this poetic heart, one cannot " enjoy " anything in life whether it is laukika ananda or alaukika ananda. All our vedic seers and upasakas were " poets " in strictest sense and the God is the " poet or poets " which is why Rg Veda extols Ganapati / Brihaspati / vAkpati / Brihatipati is " kavim kavinAm upamashravastamam " . medha dakshinamurthy vijayate. regs, sriram , Gopi <antarurjas wrote: > > Dear devotees > > 1. Why is that in the navAvarNa pooja,we always have " kaplayaami " ? What is to be visualised? the act of offering or the devataa that you are offering to? ( in each of the koNa/daLa etc) > > If it is the devataa, then this is what actually happens in every pooja( unless the devotee is in an exhalted state to have the sAkshaatkaarma of the devataa). so why is it that only in navAvarNa pooja alone, we have this word " kalpayAmi " coming through out > > 2. If the visualisation is about the offered, then even when you have the item offered ( like dhoopam, dheepam) or in in the appropriate places where tarpaNam is offered, why does the script still talk of kalpayaami ( tarpayAmi namaha)? > > srI harI > Gopi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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