Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear devotees Request your wisdom on a few elements. While doing navAvarNa pooja, the sankalpa is taken to please sri lalithamahaatripurasundari. LS says SHE took that form due to the prayers of the devAs and for a particular purpose.(devakArya samudhyata). So the ultimate SHE took a partcular form. During navAvarNa pooja, when the mandala of the devI is drawn in the viseshargyam, right at the bindu, instead of any of the manthras of sri lalithamahaatripurasundari, ( either bala or panchadasi or shodasi), only the kAmakalA bheejam is written and invoked. Why is that in the most celebrated method of doing pooja to HER, are we not invoking HER in HER ultimate form of rAjarAjeshwari or even invoking HER bheejA right at the bindu of the core mandala. All are HER forms, yes, but then what is the esoteric significance of not invoking HER ultimate form in the core of the pooja? Pl pardon my ignorance. srI hari gopi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Pranams, To deal with importance of KAMAKALA which is the core subject in Srividya, it would take several posts for shed light on what exactly is the Kamakala which also forms the " Heart of Srividya " . Concept of Kamakala can be termed as the " Srividya Hridaya " . Shri Bhasakaraya says in Varivasya : Iti kAmakala vidyA dEvI chakrAtmikA sEyam viditA yEna sa muktO bhavati mahatripurasundarI rupah // ie., One who knows the Kamakala become liberated souls by the attaining the State of Tripurasundari. Again while explaining the importance of Kamakala, Shri Bhaskararaya says in Varivasya Rahasya as: Satgurukulatah kripayA labdhA kAmAnIyam sUtE nijabuddhmAtrajanyA pApam kanyA yathA svIyA // The SrividyA and concept of Kamakala is only understood with the infinite grace of Satguru hailing from Sat-sampradaya. It is a sin to understand these concepts without the help of satguru. Further His Holiness Bhaskararaya says that the person who tries to understand them with his own intelligence without the help of gurunatha, would be succumbed to Yogini Shapa as commented below by Him. pAramparya-vihInA yE jnAnamAtrENa garvitAh tEShAm samayalOpEna vikurvanti marIchayah // ************************ LS says SHE took that form due to the prayers of the devAs and for a particular purpose.(devakArya samudhyata). So the ultimate SHE took a partcular form. ******************************* kAmakaLa is nothing but ultimate SHE. ******************************* During navAvarNa pooja, when the mandala of the devI is drawn in the viseshargyam, right at the bindu, instead of any of the manthras of sri lalithamahaatripurasundari, (either bala or panchadasi or shodasi), only the kAmakalA bheejam is written and invoked. ******************************** Don't underestimate the Kamakala Bija by saying " only kamakala " . Infact, the GREATNESS OF PANCHADASI / SHODASI MANTRA is because of the PRESENCE OF KAMAKALA BIJA IN THEM. It is because of the presence of Kamakala " EEM " which is called Turiya Bija, Shri Bhasakaraya Makhin equates Tripurasundari with Kamakala Swarupa (Ref. kamakalarupa of LS). Even Srisukta extols this Kamakala in the Rk " tAm padminIm " IM " sharaNam prapadyE " . This IM is the Turiya Swarupa in Srividya Mantra. To understand this Kamakala Mantra and its form, serious reading of the 19th Sloka of Saundaryalahari " mukham bindum kritvA " is recommended. After than you may refer Kamakala Vilasa of Punyanandanatha, 10th Patala of Gandharva Tantra which extensively deals with " esoteric sense of Kamakala Mantra " . Please note that here while drawing the mandala in Visesha Arghya, acharyas like Shri Parashurama in his Kalpa Sutra, Shri Bhasakaraya Makhin in his works Varivasya Rahasya & Sethubandha, Shri Umanandanatha in Nityotsava have used the word " turIyasvara " for Kamakala lekhana. By doing so, the Mandala becomes " JYOTIRMAYA " the viseshya arghya becomes " AMRITA " – the Nectar. Because, Kamakala is also the Nitya Kala / Shodasi Kala that helps in trickling of Nectar at Sahasrara Chakra. ************************************** Why is that in the most celebrated method of doing pooja to HER, are we not invoking HER in HER ultimate form of rAjarAjeshwari or even invoking HER bheejA right at the bindu of the core mandala. All are HER forms, yes, but then what is the esoteric significance of not invoking HER ultimate form in the core of the pooja? *********************** Before answering this question, I would ask you that what is the form you are invoking at the time of Japa of Mulavidya that succeeds after the worship of 9th Avarana and subsequently the Sampradayika Kamakala Dhyana. With regards, Sriram // a-ka-thAsanam ha-lakShAntaram samAsAdya mAmakam jnAnam mAmakamEvAnandam mahyam dadatO jayanti gurucharaNAh // , Gopi <antarurjas wrote: > > Dear devotees > > Request your wisdom on a few elements. > > While doing navAvarNa pooja, the sankalpa is taken to please sri lalithamahaatripurasundari. > > LS says SHE took that form due to the prayers of the devAs and for a particular purpose.(devakArya samudhyata). So the ultimate SHE took a partcular form. > > During navAvarNa pooja, when the mandala of the devI is drawn in the viseshargyam, right at the bindu, instead of any of the manthras of sri lalithamahaatripurasundari, ( either bala or panchadasi or shodasi), only the kAmakalA bheejam is written and invoked. > > Why is that in the most celebrated method of doing pooja to HER, are we not invoking HER in HER ultimate form of rAjarAjeshwari or even invoking HER bheejA right at the bindu of the core mandala. > > All are HER forms, yes, but then what is the esoteric significance of not invoking HER ultimate form in the core of the pooja? > > Pl pardon my ignorance. > > srI hari > gopi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Pranams, Sorry for the typo here " 10th Patala of Gandharva Tantra " It is 30th patala of G.Tantra. regs, sriram , " Venkata Sriram " <sriram_sapthasathi wrote: > > Pranams, > > To deal with importance of KAMAKALA which is the core subject in Srividya, it would take several posts for shed light on what exactly is the Kamakala which also forms the " Heart of Srividya " . Concept of Kamakala can be termed as the " Srividya Hridaya " . Shri Bhasakaraya says in Varivasya : > > Iti kAmakala vidyA dEvI chakrAtmikA sEyam > viditA yEna sa muktO bhavati mahatripurasundarI rupah // > > ie., One who knows the Kamakala become liberated souls by the attaining the State of Tripurasundari. > > Again while explaining the importance of Kamakala, Shri Bhaskararaya says in Varivasya Rahasya as: > > Satgurukulatah kripayA labdhA kAmAnIyam sUtE > nijabuddhmAtrajanyA pApam kanyA yathA svIyA // > > The SrividyA and concept of Kamakala is only understood with the infinite grace of Satguru hailing from Sat-sampradaya. It is a sin to understand these concepts without the help of satguru. Further His Holiness Bhaskararaya says that the person who tries to understand them with his own intelligence without the help of gurunatha, would be succumbed to Yogini Shapa as commented below by Him. > > pAramparya-vihInA yE jnAnamAtrENa garvitAh > tEShAm samayalOpEna vikurvanti marIchayah // > > ************************ > > LS says SHE took that form due to the prayers of the devAs and for a particular purpose.(devakArya samudhyata). So the ultimate SHE took a partcular form. > > ******************************* > > kAmakaLa is nothing but ultimate SHE. > > ******************************* > During navAvarNa pooja, when the mandala of the devI is drawn in the > viseshargyam, right at the bindu, instead of any of the manthras of sri lalithamahaatripurasundari, (either bala or panchadasi or shodasi), only the kAmakalA bheejam is written and invoked. > > ******************************** > > Don't underestimate the Kamakala Bija by saying " only kamakala " . Infact, the GREATNESS OF PANCHADASI / SHODASI MANTRA is because of the PRESENCE OF KAMAKALA BIJA IN THEM. It is because of the presence of Kamakala " EEM " which is called Turiya Bija, Shri Bhasakaraya Makhin equates Tripurasundari with Kamakala Swarupa > > (Ref. kamakalarupa of LS). > > Even Srisukta extols this Kamakala in the Rk " tAm padminIm " IM " sharaNam prapadyE " . This IM is the Turiya Swarupa in Srividya Mantra. > > To understand this Kamakala Mantra and its form, serious reading of the 19th Sloka of Saundaryalahari " mukham bindum kritvA " is recommended. After than you may refer Kamakala Vilasa of Punyanandanatha, 10th Patala of Gandharva Tantra which extensively deals with " esoteric sense of Kamakala Mantra " . > > Please note that here while drawing the mandala in Visesha Arghya, acharyas like Shri Parashurama in his Kalpa Sutra, Shri Bhasakaraya Makhin in his works Varivasya Rahasya & Sethubandha, Shri Umanandanatha in Nityotsava have used the word " turIyasvara " for Kamakala lekhana. > > By doing so, the Mandala becomes " JYOTIRMAYA " the viseshya arghya becomes " AMRITA " – the Nectar. Because, Kamakala is also the Nitya Kala / Shodasi Kala that helps in trickling of Nectar at Sahasrara Chakra. > > ************************************** > Why is that in the most celebrated method of doing pooja to HER, are we not invoking HER in HER ultimate form of rAjarAjeshwari or even invoking HER bheejA right at the bindu of the core mandala. > > All are HER forms, yes, but then what is the esoteric significance of not invoking HER ultimate form in the core of the pooja? > > *********************** > > Before answering this question, I would ask you that what is the form you are invoking at the time of Japa of Mulavidya that succeeds after the worship of 9th Avarana and subsequently the Sampradayika Kamakala Dhyana. > > With regards, > Sriram > > // a-ka-thAsanam ha-lakShAntaram samAsAdya mAmakam jnAnam > mAmakamEvAnandam mahyam dadatO jayanti gurucharaNAh // , Gopi <antarurjas@> wrote: > > > > Dear devotees > > > > Request your wisdom on a few elements. > > > > While doing navAvarNa pooja, the sankalpa is taken to please sri lalithamahaatripurasundari. > > > > LS says SHE took that form due to the prayers of the devAs and for a particular purpose.(devakArya samudhyata). So the ultimate SHE took a partcular form. > > > > During navAvarNa pooja, when the mandala of the devI is drawn in the viseshargyam, right at the bindu, instead of any of the manthras of sri lalithamahaatripurasundari, ( either bala or panchadasi or shodasi), only the kAmakalA bheejam is written and invoked. > > > > Why is that in the most celebrated method of doing pooja to HER, are we not invoking HER in HER ultimate form of rAjarAjeshwari or even invoking HER bheejA right at the bindu of the core mandala. > > > > All are HER forms, yes, but then what is the esoteric significance of not invoking HER ultimate form in the core of the pooja? > > > > Pl pardon my ignorance. > > > > srI hari > > gopi > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Dear Sriramgaru Thanks for such an elaborate response. I see that details mentioned there, need careful reading/re-reading/re-re-reading and janmaas of manana and tapas to even understand, leave alone experience. Once again thanks a million. Sir, just felt like clarifying that when I mentioned 'only kAmakalA bheejam', it is not with any disrespect to HER at all. It was a way of expressing that this bheejam alone is used and not panchadasi or shodasi( which basically is the framework of my doubts, which you have clarified.) I by no means meant any reduction in respect for the bheejam at all. ******************* Before answering this question, I would ask you that what is the form you are invoking at the time of Japa of Mulavidya that succeeds after the worship of 9th Avarana..... ******************* I visualise HER as mentioned in the dhyaana sloka of LS. srI hari Gopi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Namaste. The basic underlying principle during Navavarana Archana is the pUjaka-pUjya-abheda bhAvana ie., the Unity between the Worshipper and the Worshipped. Have this constant feeling that you and Mother are ONE ENTITY. Tantra Sastra lays importance to this abheda-bhavana . It is this advaita bhavana that sanctifies the paraphernalia (dravya shuddhi) during navavarana archana. tAdrishIm ambikAm dhyAtva tridhAtmAnam cha tanmayam tEnaiva mUlamantrENa shirOdEshE tadEva hi // svakIyE kusumam dadyAnganyAsam punahstathA chaitanyam sarvabhUtAnAm yad brahma soham ishwarah soham ityasya satatam chintanAd dEvarUpatA atmanO jAyatE samyagbhAvanAnnAtra samshayah pUjopakaraNasyApi dEvatvamiha jAyatE sarvEshAm dEvatAdriShTyA jAyatE shuddhatApi // The success in Srividya is assured when you respect your wife and look down upon every woman as an aspect of Tripurasundari. Respect your wife & never ever hurt her feelings. On a lighter note: Don't pester your wife for naivedyas like pulihora, dadhyojana, payasam, chakrapongali etc. If she readily & happily out of her own wish cooks them, then offer it to the Sriyantra. Or else, as I said once in this forum, offer a glass or milk. This is enough. Moreover, seasonal fruits are readily available at an affordable price. Regs, Sriram , Gopi <antarurjas wrote: > > Dear Sriramgaru > > Thanks for such an elaborate response. I see that details mentioned there, need careful reading/re-reading/re-re-reading and janmaas of manana and tapas to even understand, leave alone experience. Once again thanks a million. > > Sir, just felt like clarifying that when I mentioned 'only kAmakalA bheejam', it is not with any disrespect to HER at all. It was a way of expressing that this bheejam alone is used and not panchadasi or shodasi( which basically is the framework of my doubts, which you have clarified.) I by no means meant any reduction in respect for the bheejam at all. > > ******************* > Before answering this question, I would ask you that what is the form > you are invoking at the time of Japa of Mulavidya that succeeds after > the worship of 9th Avarana..... > ******************* > I visualise HER as mentioned in the dhyaana sloka of LS. > > srI hari > Gopi > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Namaste Sriramgaru. Thanks for the mesgs. Will continue to pray to HER to be blessed with the abhedham. on a lighter note: This particular mesg of yours have been read by the us as a family here. I am sure your last few sentenses will be used as blanket permissions to prepare/not prepare neivedhyams. :-)... srI hari Gopi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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