Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Namaste. After having read in a certain website about the distorted version of the definition of Kamakoti as " BILLIOUS OF LOVE " , i thought of writing a small article on Kamakala and tat-swarupa. The scholar might have translated kamakoti in literal sense where koti means billions and kama as love. And hence, Kamakoti. Since, this gentleman is the member of this forum, i request him not to publish these as there is every danger that some laymen might take that for granted. Here is my version. Some of the portions i have already mailed long ago here as a part of Maheshwara Sutra. But as a part of manana, i am presenting again. ******************** The Nataraja in Chidambaram or Tillaivanam performs the Tandava dance before Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, Sanaka, Sanandana and other sages. At the close of the dance, Nataraja produces 14 sounds with his Damaruka. From these 14 sounds, emanated 14 Sutras and 14 branches of vedic learning. The fourteen sounds produced by Nataraja's drum are the means by which the Reality of Siva is to be known and experienced within us. The sages obtained the inner vision to see this Great Cosmic dance of Siva. At the end, everyone were in the ocean of Bliss Absolute. Among those present at Nataraja's dance was Panini. For him these 14 sounds meant the fourteen cardinal sutras of Grammer and on them he based his " Ashtadhyayi " . The Nataraja was the Sabda-Brahma Incarnate and at the conclusion of his Tandava, these series of fourteen letters emanated: 1) a i un 2) r l k 3) e on 4) ai au c 5) ha ya va ra t 6) la n 7) jna ma gna Nna na m 8) jha bha n 9) gha dad ha s 10) ja ba ga da da s 11) kha pha cha that ha ca ta ta v 12) ka pa y 13) sa sa sar 14) ha l Based on the above 14 sutras, Sage Nandikeswara has written a commentary called " kAsika " . And based on the kAsika, Sage Upamanyu wrote a commentary called " Tatva Vimarsini " . If time permits, I will present the entire kAsikA and Tattva Vimarsini as a series of posts, but now I would give out the commentary for the 1st sutra ie., a, I, u, n. 1st Sutra: a i u n Nirguna Parabrahma who is Siva is denoted by first letter `a'. The Sakti in the form of Chit Kala is denoted by `i' in this sutra. This is the medium or upadhi. Siva (a) with Sakti (i) as upadhi gets manifested as Saguna Brahma (u). This saguna brahma (u) gets transformed into Jagat (n). Here `a' is non-objective bliss – Siva tattva; `i' is the Kamakala – Sakti tattva; `u' is Ishwara tattva ********************* As per Nandikeshwara kAsikA ******************** akArO brahmarUpassyAnnirguNassarva vastuShu chitkaLAm im samAsritya jagatrUpa u NIshwarah // ie., a kara is Nirguna Parabrahma; Chitkala in the form of Kamakala is " I " ; Both Siva in the form of " a " unite with Sakti in the form of " I " and give out the by-product which is this Universe in the form of " uN " . akAra sarvavarNAgryah prakAsah paramasivah Adi raMtyEna saMyOgAd " AHAM " iti eva jAyatE // From the 1st sutra of Maheshwara Sutras, " a " denotes the Prakasa Swarupa Parasiva. When this unites with " h " of the 14th Sutra, becomes " AHAM " which is called PratyagAtma. Like this, Nandikeshwara wrote 7 kAsikAs on the 1st sutra. And for every sutra, Sage Upamanyu wrote Tattva Vimarsini Vyakhya. So, the 4th Kasika of the 1st Sutra says: jagatsraShTu mabhUdvAM cha yadA hyAsItatadAbhavat kAmabIjam iti prAhu rmunayO vEdapAragAh // Nandikeshwara says that " e " kAra is the svatantra swarupa which is called `mAyA " . This mAyA sakti " e " uniting with Siva in the form of " a " , creates the entire cosmos in the form of " AHAM " which is the " sabda shrishti " in the form of 16 vowels & 34 consonants. This AHAM encompasses in itself entire 14 Maheshwara Sutras. This AHAM is the Creation which is formed with the union of Siva (a) and Maya (e). Commenting on this kAsikA, Sage Upamanyu says in his Tattva Vimarsini as: Tatra sarvatra e-kArasyaiva sarva-tantratA mAha – akAra miti // This " e " kara is the Svatantra Sakti which is mAyA. Further Sage Upamanyu Says: Tattva Vimarsini of Upamanyu ************************** jagatsraShTu mabhUtvAmchEti – uktam cha " svaprkAsaparaMatmavastunO drishyamAnajagatssisrukShayA, kAmatah parasivapravEshanaM kAmabIjam idam eva nischitam " iti " bIjam bindudvayArUDham sAdhyayOnisvarUpakaM MAHAKAMAKALA RUPA mAtmAnam chintayEt priyE " // ******************* When Svaprakasa rupa Paramatma thinks of creating this universe, there is a desire in Him of becoming many. This " desire of becoming many " in the form of Creation takes birth in the Parasiva (a). This Desire is the Kama Bija. This Kama Bija is the Chitkala that takes the form of " e " . Such a Paramasiva having the Desire is called Kameshwara and His mAyA sakti is Kameshwari. This Mithuna or the Union is called Kamakoti which is the form of MAHA-KAMAKALA. kAnchipuranAyikAm hridi bhAvayE….. regs, sriram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Dear Sriram, Namaste. This is a side note on your expostion of KamaKoti. As you would know, " koti " being translated merely into a numerical value is not restricted to recent times. 33 koti devathaas of Rigveda was interpreted by europeans as 33 crores of devathaas. (Koti = = 'crore' as one of the meanings). This point was then added to their (proletrizing europeans of the past) arsenal for ridiculing hindu dharma. It is thought so because, the same scholars were aware of upanishadic description of 33 gods or 33 categories of gods (eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve Ä€dityas, Indra and PrajÄpati). It will help to clarify more clearly if you could point to the sense in which " koti " is used here as it seems like Max Muller and Co. have a long lasting effect on how we ( or just myself) perceive our own Devathaas. Thanks, -gopal ________________________________ Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi Sat, January 30, 2010 5:51:41 AM kamakala in the form of " e " Namaste. After having read in a certain website about the distorted version of the definition of Kamakoti as " BILLIOUS OF LOVE " , i thought of writing a small article on Kamakala and tat-swarupa. The scholar might have translated kamakoti in literal sense where koti means billions and kama as love. And hence, Kamakoti. Since, this gentleman is the member of this forum, i request him not to publish these as there is every danger that some laymen might take that for granted. Here is my version. Some of the portions i have already mailed long ago here as a part of Maheshwara Sutra. But as a part of manana, i am presenting again. ************ ******** The Nataraja in Chidambaram or Tillaivanam performs the Tandava dance before Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, Sanaka, Sanandana and other sages. At the close of the dance, Nataraja produces 14 sounds with his Damaruka. From these 14 sounds, emanated 14 Sutras and 14 branches of vedic learning. The fourteen sounds produced by Nataraja's drum are the means by which the Reality of Siva is to be known and experienced within us. The sages obtained the inner vision to see this Great Cosmic dance of Siva. At the end, everyone were in the ocean of Bliss Absolute. Among those present at Nataraja's dance was Panini. For him these 14 sounds meant the fourteen cardinal sutras of Grammer and on them he based his " Ashtadhyayi " . The Nataraja was the Sabda-Brahma Incarnate and at the conclusion of his Tandava, these series of fourteen letters emanated: 1) a i un 2) r l k 3) e on 4) ai au c 5) ha ya va ra t 6) la n 7) jna ma gna Nna na m 8) jha bha n 9) gha dad ha s 10) ja ba ga da da s 11) kha pha cha that ha ca ta ta v 12) ka pa y 13) sa sa sar 14) ha l Based on the above 14 sutras, Sage Nandikeswara has written a commentary called " kAsika " . And based on the kAsika, Sage Upamanyu wrote a commentary called " Tatva Vimarsini " . If time permits, I will present the entire kAsikA and Tattva Vimarsini as a series of posts, but now I would give out the commentary for the 1st sutra ie., a, I, u, n. 1st Sutra: a i u n Nirguna Parabrahma who is Siva is denoted by first letter `a'. The Sakti in the form of Chit Kala is denoted by `i' in this sutra. This is the medium or upadhi. Siva (a) with Sakti (i) as upadhi gets manifested as Saguna Brahma (u). This saguna brahma (u) gets transformed into Jagat (n). Here `a' is non-objective bliss – Siva tattva; `i' is the Kamakala – Sakti tattva; `u' is Ishwara tattva ************ ********* As per Nandikeshwara kAsikA ************ ******** akArO brahmarUpassyAnnirg uNassarva vastuShu chitkaLAm im samAsritya jagatrUpa u NIshwarah // ie., a kara is Nirguna Parabrahma; Chitkala in the form of Kamakala is " I " ; Both Siva in the form of " a " unite with Sakti in the form of " I " and give out the by-product which is this Universe in the form of " uN " . akAra sarvavarNAgryah prakAsah paramasivah Adi raMtyEna saMyOgAd " AHAM " iti eva jAyatE // From the 1st sutra of Maheshwara Sutras, " a " denotes the Prakasa Swarupa Parasiva. When this unites with " h " of the 14th Sutra, becomes " AHAM " which is called PratyagAtma. Like this, Nandikeshwara wrote 7 kAsikAs on the 1st sutra. And for every sutra, Sage Upamanyu wrote Tattva Vimarsini Vyakhya. So, the 4th Kasika of the 1st Sutra says: jagatsraShTu mabhUdvAM cha yadA hyAsItatadAbhavat kAmabIjam iti prAhu rmunayO vEdapAragAh // Nandikeshwara says that " e " kAra is the svatantra swarupa which is called `mAyA " . This mAyA sakti " e " uniting with Siva in the form of " a " , creates the entire cosmos in the form of " AHAM " which is the " sabda shrishti " in the form of 16 vowels & 34 consonants. This AHAM encompasses in itself entire 14 Maheshwara Sutras. This AHAM is the Creation which is formed with the union of Siva (a) and Maya (e). Commenting on this kAsikA, Sage Upamanyu says in his Tattva Vimarsini as: Tatra sarvatra e-kArasyaiva sarva-tantratA mAha – akAra miti // This " e " kara is the Svatantra Sakti which is mAyA. Further Sage Upamanyu Says: Tattva Vimarsini of Upamanyu ************ ********* ***** jagatsraShTu mabhUtvAmchEti – uktam cha " svaprkAsaparaMatma vastunO drishyamAnajagatssi srukShayA, kAmatah parasivapravEshanaM kAmabIjam idam eva nischitam " iti " bIjam bindudvayArUDham sAdhyayOnisvarUpaka M MAHAKAMAKALA RUPA mAtmAnam chintayEt priyE " // ************ ******* When Svaprakasa rupa Paramatma thinks of creating this universe, there is a desire in Him of becoming many. This " desire of becoming many " in the form of Creation takes birth in the Parasiva (a). This Desire is the Kama Bija. This Kama Bija is the Chitkala that takes the form of " e " . Such a Paramasiva having the Desire is called Kameshwara and His mAyA sakti is Kameshwari. This Mithuna or the Union is called Kamakoti which is the form of MAHA-KAMAKALA. kAnchipuranAyikAm hridi bhAvayE….. regs, sriram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 kamakoti has another meaning as taught to me by one of our srividyopaasakas. it goes like this. kama means the wants of the human mind which is like a ocean, and the wants are countless as water in the seas, and it is not one ocean, but seven oceans, sapta samudras. the wants, as they are met, keep on coming, like the waves in the ocean, which means these wants are endless, unlimited and even more than the whole bhoo mandala, leaving the water. koti also means the other side of a given area, which means the space beyond the boundary of a given object for visualization. generally for a human eye on the earthly plane, the otherside of the sea is not visible. now, take both kaama and koti. this simply means the otherside of the sea of wants. further explanation is that the human being from the time of entering the womb of the mother, till the being leaves the earthy world, goes in whirls in the sea of wants. when once he goes outside this sea and reaches the shore, this means that he has conquered all his wants / desires and reached the other side of the sea, which is the kaivalya and which is the abode of the most revered goddess, sri raja rajeswari maata. when i was asked by my father to name our newly built house, it occured to me that we should name it as SRIKAMAKOTI - meaning the adobe of the saatwika kakaara bhattaarika, mahaaa kaameswaree maata. every one liked it, and believe me, there are no wants in our house since then, till now. every one who lives here, live in perpetual happiness and in the thinking of maata sri raja rajeswari. sri maatre namaha. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Gopal Gopinath <gopal_gopinathwrote: > > > Dear Sriram, > > Namaste. > > This is a side note on your expostion of KamaKoti. > > As you would know, " koti " being translated merely into a numerical value is > not restricted to recent times. 33 koti devathaas of Rigveda was interpreted > by europeans as 33 crores of devathaas. (Koti = = 'crore' as one of the > meanings). This point was then added to their (proletrizing europeans of the > past) arsenal for ridiculing hindu dharma. It is thought so because, the > same scholars were aware of upanishadic description of 33 gods or 33 > categories of gods (eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve Ä€dityas, Indra and > PrajÄpati). > > It will help to clarify more clearly if you could point to the sense in > which " koti " is used here as it seems like Max Muller and Co. have a long > lasting effect on how we ( or just myself) perceive our own Devathaas. > > Thanks, > > -gopal > > ________________________________ > Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi<sriram_sapthasathi%40grouply.com> > > > <%40> > Sat, January 30, 2010 5:51:41 AM > kamakala in the form of " e " > > Namaste. > > After having read in a certain website about the distorted version of the > definition of Kamakoti as " BILLIOUS OF LOVE " , i thought of writing a small > article on Kamakala and tat-swarupa. > > The scholar might have translated kamakoti in literal sense where koti > means billions and kama as love. And hence, Kamakoti. > > Since, this gentleman is the member of this forum, i request him not to > publish these as there is every danger that some laymen might take that for > granted. > > Here is my version. Some of the portions i have already mailed long ago > here as a part of Maheshwara Sutra. But as a part of manana, i am presenting > again. > > ************ ******** > > The Nataraja in Chidambaram or Tillaivanam performs the Tandava dance > before Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, Sanaka, Sanandana and other sages. At the > close of the dance, Nataraja produces 14 sounds with his Damaruka. From > these 14 sounds, emanated 14 Sutras and 14 branches of vedic learning. The > fourteen sounds produced by Nataraja's drum are the means by which the > Reality of Siva is to be known and experienced within us. The sages obtained > the inner vision to see this Great Cosmic dance of Siva. At the end, > everyone were in the ocean of Bliss Absolute. Among those present at > Nataraja's dance was Panini. For him these 14 sounds meant the fourteen > cardinal sutras of Grammer and on them he based his " Ashtadhyayi " . The > Nataraja was the Sabda-Brahma Incarnate and at the > conclusion of his Tandava, these series of fourteen letters emanated: > > 1) a i un > 2) r l k > 3) e on > 4) ai au c > 5) ha ya va ra t > 6) la n > 7) jna ma gna Nna na m > 8) jha bha n > 9) gha dad ha s > 10) ja ba ga da da s > 11) kha pha cha that ha ca ta ta v > 12) ka pa y > 13) sa sa sar > 14) ha l > > Based on the above 14 sutras, Sage Nandikeswara has written a commentary > called " kAsika " . And based on the kAsika, Sage Upamanyu wrote a commentary > called " Tatva Vimarsini " . > > If time permits, I will present the entire kAsikA and Tattva Vimarsini as a > series of posts, but now I would give out the commentary for the 1st sutra > ie., a, I, u, n. > > 1st Sutra: a i u n > > Nirguna Parabrahma who is Siva is denoted by first letter `a'. The Sakti in > the form of Chit Kala is denoted by `i' in this sutra. This is the medium or > upadhi. Siva (a) with Sakti (i) as upadhi gets manifested as Saguna Brahma > (u). This saguna brahma (u) gets transformed into Jagat (n). > > Here `a' is non-objective bliss – Siva tattva; `i' is the Kamakala – Sakti > tattva; `u' is Ishwara tattva > > ************ ********* > As per Nandikeshwara kAsikA > ************ ******** > akArO brahmarUpassyAnnirg uNassarva vastuShu > chitkaLAm im samAsritya jagatrUpa u NIshwarah // > > ie., a kara is Nirguna Parabrahma; Chitkala in the form of Kamakala is " I " ; > Both Siva in the form of " a " unite with Sakti in the form of " I " and give > out the by-product which is this Universe in the form of " uN " . > > akAra sarvavarNAgryah prakAsah paramasivah > Adi raMtyEna saMyOgAd " AHAM " iti eva jAyatE // > > From the 1st sutra of Maheshwara Sutras, " a " denotes the Prakasa Swarupa > Parasiva. When this unites with " h " of the 14th Sutra, becomes " AHAM " which > is called PratyagAtma. > > Like this, Nandikeshwara wrote 7 kAsikAs on the 1st sutra. And for every > sutra, Sage Upamanyu wrote Tattva Vimarsini Vyakhya. > > So, the 4th Kasika of the 1st Sutra says: > > jagatsraShTu mabhUdvAM cha yadA hyAsItatadAbhavat > kAmabIjam iti prAhu rmunayO vEdapAragAh // > > Nandikeshwara says that " e " kAra is the svatantra swarupa which is called > `mAyA " . This mAyA sakti " e " uniting with Siva in the form of " a " , creates > the entire cosmos in the form of " AHAM " which is the " sabda shrishti " in the > form of 16 vowels & 34 consonants. This AHAM encompasses in itself entire 14 > Maheshwara Sutras. > > This AHAM is the Creation which is formed with the union of Siva (a) and > Maya (e). > > Commenting on this kAsikA, Sage Upamanyu says in his Tattva Vimarsini as: > > Tatra sarvatra e-kArasyaiva sarva-tantratA mAha – akAra miti // > > This " e " kara is the Svatantra Sakti which is mAyA. Further Sage Upamanyu > Says: > > Tattva Vimarsini of Upamanyu > > ************ ********* ***** > > jagatsraShTu mabhUtvAmchEti – uktam cha " svaprkAsaparaMatma vastunO > drishyamAnajagatssi srukShayA, kAmatah parasivapravEshanaM kAmabIjam idam > eva nischitam " iti " bIjam bindudvayArUDham sAdhyayOnisvarUpaka M > MAHAKAMAKALA RUPA mAtmAnam chintayEt priyE " // > > ************ ******* > > When Svaprakasa rupa Paramatma thinks of creating this universe, there is a > desire in Him of becoming many. This " desire of becoming many " in the form > of Creation takes birth in the Parasiva (a). This Desire is the Kama Bija. > This Kama Bija is the Chitkala that takes the form of " e " . > > Such a Paramasiva having the Desire is called Kameshwara and His mAyA sakti > is Kameshwari. This Mithuna or the Union is called Kamakoti which is the > form of MAHA-KAMAKALA. > > kAnchipuranAyikAm hridi bhAvayE….. > > regs, > sriram > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 one simple thing, if the followers of this site follow the vyakhyaanas of the learned lore in srividya and srividya only and not the meanings rendered the whole of european quacks. they do not know the actual meaning, and whatever comes to their mind, they write without understanding the actual inner meaning and for that matter the hidden meaning of our scriptures. hence, they are quacks, whatever be their salutations like Dr. or prof. or anything for that matter. hence, i request the moderator of this group to elucidate the members in this regard. thanks and regards. On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:25 PM, vsnm prasad mellacheruvu < melchoir47 wrote: > kamakoti has another meaning as taught to me by one of our > srividyopaasakas. it goes like this. > > kama means the wants of the human mind which is like a ocean, and the wants > are countless as water in the seas, and it is not one ocean, but seven > oceans, sapta samudras. the wants, as they are met, keep on coming, like the > waves in the ocean, which means these wants are endless, unlimited and even > more than the whole bhoo mandala, leaving the water. > > koti also means the other side of a given area, which means the space > beyond the boundary of a given object for visualization. generally for a > human eye on the earthly plane, the otherside of the sea is not visible. > > now, take both kaama and koti. this simply means the otherside of the sea > of wants. further explanation is that the human being from the time of > entering the womb of the mother, till the being leaves the earthy world, > goes in whirls in the sea of wants. when once he goes outside this sea and > reaches the shore, this means that he has conquered all his wants / desires > and reached the other side of the sea, which is the kaivalya and which is > the abode of the most revered goddess, sri raja rajeswari maata. > > when i was asked by my father to name our newly built house, it occured to > me that we should name it as SRIKAMAKOTI - meaning the adobe of the saatwika > kakaara bhattaarika, mahaaa kaameswaree maata. every one liked it, and > believe me, there are no wants in our house since then, till now. every one > who lives here, live in perpetual happiness and in the thinking of maata sri > raja rajeswari. > > sri maatre namaha. > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Gopal Gopinath <gopal_gopinathwrote: > >> >> >> Dear Sriram, >> >> Namaste. >> >> This is a side note on your expostion of KamaKoti. >> >> As you would know, " koti " being translated merely into a numerical value >> is not restricted to recent times. 33 koti devathaas of Rigveda was >> interpreted by europeans as 33 crores of devathaas. (Koti = = 'crore' as one >> of the meanings). This point was then added to their (proletrizing europeans >> of the past) arsenal for ridiculing hindu dharma. It is thought so because, >> the same scholars were aware of upanishadic description of 33 gods or 33 >> categories of gods (eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve Ä€dityas, Indra and >> PrajÄpati). >> >> It will help to clarify more clearly if you could point to the sense in >> which " koti " is used here as it seems like Max Muller and Co. have a long >> lasting effect on how we ( or just myself) perceive our own Devathaas. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -gopal >> >> ________________________________ >> Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi<sriram_sapthasathi%40grouply.com> >> > >> <%40> >> Sat, January 30, 2010 5:51:41 AM >> kamakala in the form of " e " >> >> Namaste. >> >> After having read in a certain website about the distorted version of the >> definition of Kamakoti as " BILLIOUS OF LOVE " , i thought of writing a small >> article on Kamakala and tat-swarupa. >> >> The scholar might have translated kamakoti in literal sense where koti >> means billions and kama as love. And hence, Kamakoti. >> >> Since, this gentleman is the member of this forum, i request him not to >> publish these as there is every danger that some laymen might take that for >> granted. >> >> Here is my version. Some of the portions i have already mailed long ago >> here as a part of Maheshwara Sutra. But as a part of manana, i am presenting >> again. >> >> ************ ******** >> >> The Nataraja in Chidambaram or Tillaivanam performs the Tandava dance >> before Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, Sanaka, Sanandana and other sages. At the >> close of the dance, Nataraja produces 14 sounds with his Damaruka. From >> these 14 sounds, emanated 14 Sutras and 14 branches of vedic learning. The >> fourteen sounds produced by Nataraja's drum are the means by which the >> Reality of Siva is to be known and experienced within us. The sages obtained >> the inner vision to see this Great Cosmic dance of Siva. At the end, >> everyone were in the ocean of Bliss Absolute. Among those present at >> Nataraja's dance was Panini. For him these 14 sounds meant the fourteen >> cardinal sutras of Grammer and on them he based his " Ashtadhyayi " . The >> Nataraja was the Sabda-Brahma Incarnate and at the >> conclusion of his Tandava, these series of fourteen letters emanated: >> >> 1) a i un >> 2) r l k >> 3) e on >> 4) ai au c >> 5) ha ya va ra t >> 6) la n >> 7) jna ma gna Nna na m >> 8) jha bha n >> 9) gha dad ha s >> 10) ja ba ga da da s >> 11) kha pha cha that ha ca ta ta v >> 12) ka pa y >> 13) sa sa sar >> 14) ha l >> >> Based on the above 14 sutras, Sage Nandikeswara has written a commentary >> called " kAsika " . And based on the kAsika, Sage Upamanyu wrote a commentary >> called " Tatva Vimarsini " . >> >> If time permits, I will present the entire kAsikA and Tattva Vimarsini as >> a series of posts, but now I would give out the commentary for the 1st sutra >> ie., a, I, u, n. >> >> 1st Sutra: a i u n >> >> Nirguna Parabrahma who is Siva is denoted by first letter `a'. The Sakti >> in the form of Chit Kala is denoted by `i' in this sutra. This is the medium >> or upadhi. Siva (a) with Sakti (i) as upadhi gets manifested as Saguna >> Brahma (u). This saguna brahma (u) gets transformed into Jagat (n). >> >> Here `a' is non-objective bliss – Siva tattva; `i' is the Kamakala – Sakti >> tattva; `u' is Ishwara tattva >> >> ************ ********* >> As per Nandikeshwara kAsikA >> ************ ******** >> akArO brahmarUpassyAnnirg uNassarva vastuShu >> chitkaLAm im samAsritya jagatrUpa u NIshwarah // >> >> ie., a kara is Nirguna Parabrahma; Chitkala in the form of Kamakala is >> " I " ; Both Siva in the form of " a " unite with Sakti in the form of " I " and >> give out the by-product which is this Universe in the form of " uN " . >> >> akAra sarvavarNAgryah prakAsah paramasivah >> Adi raMtyEna saMyOgAd " AHAM " iti eva jAyatE // >> >> From the 1st sutra of Maheshwara Sutras, " a " denotes the Prakasa Swarupa >> Parasiva. When this unites with " h " of the 14th Sutra, becomes " AHAM " which >> is called PratyagAtma. >> >> Like this, Nandikeshwara wrote 7 kAsikAs on the 1st sutra. And for every >> sutra, Sage Upamanyu wrote Tattva Vimarsini Vyakhya. >> >> So, the 4th Kasika of the 1st Sutra says: >> >> jagatsraShTu mabhUdvAM cha yadA hyAsItatadAbhavat >> kAmabIjam iti prAhu rmunayO vEdapAragAh // >> >> Nandikeshwara says that " e " kAra is the svatantra swarupa which is called >> `mAyA " . This mAyA sakti " e " uniting with Siva in the form of " a " , creates >> the entire cosmos in the form of " AHAM " which is the " sabda shrishti " in the >> form of 16 vowels & 34 consonants. This AHAM encompasses in itself entire 14 >> Maheshwara Sutras. >> >> This AHAM is the Creation which is formed with the union of Siva (a) and >> Maya (e). >> >> Commenting on this kAsikA, Sage Upamanyu says in his Tattva Vimarsini as: >> >> Tatra sarvatra e-kArasyaiva sarva-tantratA mAha – akAra miti // >> >> This " e " kara is the Svatantra Sakti which is mAyA. Further Sage Upamanyu >> Says: >> >> Tattva Vimarsini of Upamanyu >> >> ************ ********* ***** >> >> jagatsraShTu mabhUtvAmchEti – uktam cha " svaprkAsaparaMatma vastunO >> drishyamAnajagatssi srukShayA, kAmatah parasivapravEshanaM kAmabIjam idam >> eva nischitam " iti " bIjam bindudvayArUDham sAdhyayOnisvarUpaka M >> MAHAKAMAKALA RUPA mAtmAnam chintayEt priyE " // >> >> ************ ******* >> >> When Svaprakasa rupa Paramatma thinks of creating this universe, there is >> a desire in Him of becoming many. This " desire of becoming many " in the form >> of Creation takes birth in the Parasiva (a). This Desire is the Kama Bija. >> This Kama Bija is the Chitkala that takes the form of " e " . >> >> Such a Paramasiva having the Desire is called Kameshwara and His mAyA >> sakti is Kameshwari. This Mithuna or the Union is called Kamakoti which is >> the form of MAHA-KAMAKALA. >> >> kAnchipuranAyikAm hridi bhAvayE….. >> >> regs, >> sriram >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Koti is infinite without rupa or form. he figure 33 perhaps represent the various kalas (energies) through which one can reach the formless through the worship of the form. This is what I feel. S.SHANGARANARAYANAN sriram_sapthasathi Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:51:41 +0000 kamakala in the form of " e " Namaste. After having read in a certain website about the distorted version of the definition of Kamakoti as " BILLIOUS OF LOVE " , i thought of writing a small article on Kamakala and tat-swarupa. The scholar might have translated kamakoti in literal sense where koti means billions and kama as love. And hence, Kamakoti. Since, this gentleman is the member of this forum, i request him not to publish these as there is every danger that some laymen might take that for granted. Here is my version. Some of the portions i have already mailed long ago here as a part of Maheshwara Sutra. But as a part of manana, i am presenting again. ******************** The Nataraja in Chidambaram or Tillaivanam performs the Tandava dance before Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, Sanaka, Sanandana and other sages. At the close of the dance, Nataraja produces 14 sounds with his Damaruka. From these 14 sounds, emanated 14 Sutras and 14 branches of vedic learning. The fourteen sounds produced by Nataraja's drum are the means by which the Reality of Siva is to be known and experienced within us. The sages obtained the inner vision to see this Great Cosmic dance of Siva. At the end, everyone were in the ocean of Bliss Absolute. Among those present at Nataraja's dance was Panini. For him these 14 sounds meant the fourteen cardinal sutras of Grammer and on them he based his " Ashtadhyayi " . The Nataraja was the Sabda-Brahma Incarnate and at the conclusion of his Tandava, these series of fourteen letters emanated: 1) a i un 2) r l k 3) e on 4) ai au c 5) ha ya va ra t 6) la n 7) jna ma gna Nna na m 8) jha bha n 9) gha dad ha s 10) ja ba ga da da s 11) kha pha cha that ha ca ta ta v 12) ka pa y 13) sa sa sar 14) ha l Based on the above 14 sutras, Sage Nandikeswara has written a commentary called " kAsika " . And based on the kAsika, Sage Upamanyu wrote a commentary called " Tatva Vimarsini " . If time permits, I will present the entire kAsikA and Tattva Vimarsini as a series of posts, but now I would give out the commentary for the 1st sutra ie., a, I, u, n. 1st Sutra: a i u n Nirguna Parabrahma who is Siva is denoted by first letter `a'. The Sakti in the form of Chit Kala is denoted by `i' in this sutra. This is the medium or upadhi. Siva (a) with Sakti (i) as upadhi gets manifested as Saguna Brahma (u). This saguna brahma (u) gets transformed into Jagat (n). Here `a' is non-objective bliss – Siva tattva; `i' is the Kamakala – Sakti tattva; `u' is Ishwara tattva ********************* As per Nandikeshwara kAsikA ******************** akArO brahmarUpassyAnnirguNassarva vastuShu chitkaLAm im samAsritya jagatrUpa u NIshwarah // ie., a kara is Nirguna Parabrahma; Chitkala in the form of Kamakala is " I " ; Both Siva in the form of " a " unite with Sakti in the form of " I " and give out the by-product which is this Universe in the form of " uN " . akAra sarvavarNAgryah prakAsah paramasivah Adi raMtyEna saMyOgAd " AHAM " iti eva jAyatE // From the 1st sutra of Maheshwara Sutras, " a " denotes the Prakasa Swarupa Parasiva. When this unites with " h " of the 14th Sutra, becomes " AHAM " which is called PratyagAtma. Like this, Nandikeshwara wrote 7 kAsikAs on the 1st sutra. And for every sutra, Sage Upamanyu wrote Tattva Vimarsini Vyakhya. So, the 4th Kasika of the 1st Sutra says: jagatsraShTu mabhUdvAM cha yadA hyAsItatadAbhavat kAmabIjam iti prAhu rmunayO vEdapAragAh // Nandikeshwara says that " e " kAra is the svatantra swarupa which is called `mAyA " . This mAyA sakti " e " uniting with Siva in the form of " a " , creates the entire cosmos in the form of " AHAM " which is the " sabda shrishti " in the form of 16 vowels & 34 consonants. This AHAM encompasses in itself entire 14 Maheshwara Sutras. This AHAM is the Creation which is formed with the union of Siva (a) and Maya (e). Commenting on this kAsikA, Sage Upamanyu says in his Tattva Vimarsini as: Tatra sarvatra e-kArasyaiva sarva-tantratA mAha – akAra miti // This " e " kara is the Svatantra Sakti which is mAyA. Further Sage Upamanyu Says: Tattva Vimarsini of Upamanyu ************************** jagatsraShTu mabhUtvAmchEti – uktam cha " svaprkAsaparaMatmavastunO drishyamAnajagatssisrukShayA, kAmatah parasivapravEshanaM kAmabIjam idam eva nischitam " iti " bIjam bindudvayArUDham sAdhyayOnisvarUpakaM MAHAKAMAKALA RUPA mAtmAnam chintayEt priyE " // ******************* When Svaprakasa rupa Paramatma thinks of creating this universe, there is a desire in Him of becoming many. This " desire of becoming many " in the form of Creation takes birth in the Parasiva (a). This Desire is the Kama Bija. This Kama Bija is the Chitkala that takes the form of " e " . Such a Paramasiva having the Desire is called Kameshwara and His mAyA sakti is Kameshwari. This Mithuna or the Union is called Kamakoti which is the form of MAHA-KAMAKALA. kAnchipuranAyikAm hridi bhAvayE….. regs, sriram _______________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Gopinathji, I have not read Max Muller's interpretation neither i am capable of understanding his exposition. There are more learned men who can explain this here. Currently the only " mahAvAkya " which i say is " AAL IZZZ WELL " with our Sanatana Dharma. Just watch " 3 Idiots " . regs, sriram , Gopal Gopinath <gopal_gopinath wrote: > > Dear Sriram, > > Namaste. > > This is a side note on your expostion of KamaKoti. > > As you would know, " koti " being translated merely into a numerical value is not restricted to recent times. 33 koti devathaas of Rigveda was interpreted by europeans as 33 crores of devathaas. (Koti = = 'crore' as one of the meanings). This point was then added to their (proletrizing europeans of the past) arsenal for ridiculing hindu dharma. It is thought so because, the same scholars were aware of upanishadic description of 33 gods or 33 categories of gods (eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve Ä€dityas, Indra and PrajÄpati). > > It will help to clarify more clearly if you could point to the sense in which " koti " is used here as it seems like Max Muller and Co. have a long lasting effect on how we ( or just myself) perceive our own Devathaas. > > Thanks, > > -gopal > > > > > ________________________________ > Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi > > Sat, January 30, 2010 5:51:41 AM > kamakala in the form of " e " > > > Namaste. > > After having read in a certain website about the distorted version of the definition of Kamakoti as " BILLIOUS OF LOVE " , i thought of writing a small article on Kamakala and tat-swarupa. > > The scholar might have translated kamakoti in literal sense where koti means billions and kama as love. And hence, Kamakoti. > > Since, this gentleman is the member of this forum, i request him not to publish these as there is every danger that some laymen might take that for granted. > > Here is my version. Some of the portions i have already mailed long ago here as a part of Maheshwara Sutra. But as a part of manana, i am presenting again. > > ************ ******** > > The Nataraja in Chidambaram or Tillaivanam performs the Tandava dance before Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, Sanaka, Sanandana and other sages. At the close of the dance, Nataraja produces 14 sounds with his Damaruka. From these 14 sounds, emanated 14 Sutras and 14 branches of vedic learning. The fourteen sounds produced by Nataraja's drum are the means by which the Reality of Siva is to be known and experienced within us. The sages obtained the inner vision to see this Great Cosmic dance of Siva. At the end, everyone were in the ocean of Bliss Absolute. Among those present at Nataraja's dance was Panini. For him these 14 sounds meant the fourteen cardinal sutras of Grammer and on them he based his " Ashtadhyayi " . The Nataraja was the Sabda-Brahma Incarnate and at the > conclusion of his Tandava, these series of fourteen letters emanated: > > 1) a i un > 2) r l k > 3) e on > 4) ai au c > 5) ha ya va ra t > 6) la n > 7) jna ma gna Nna na m > 8) jha bha n > 9) gha dad ha s > 10) ja ba ga da da s > 11) kha pha cha that ha ca ta ta v > 12) ka pa y > 13) sa sa sar > 14) ha l > > Based on the above 14 sutras, Sage Nandikeswara has written a commentary called " kAsika " . And based on the kAsika, Sage Upamanyu wrote a commentary called " Tatva Vimarsini " . > > If time permits, I will present the entire kAsikA and Tattva Vimarsini as a series of posts, but now I would give out the commentary for the 1st sutra ie., a, I, u, n. > > 1st Sutra: a i u n > > Nirguna Parabrahma who is Siva is denoted by first letter `a'. The Sakti in the form of Chit Kala is denoted by `i' in this sutra. This is the medium or upadhi. Siva (a) with Sakti (i) as upadhi gets manifested as Saguna Brahma (u). This saguna brahma (u) gets transformed into Jagat (n). > > Here `a' is non-objective bliss †" Siva tattva; `i' is the Kamakala †" Sakti tattva; `u' is Ishwara tattva > > ************ ********* > As per Nandikeshwara kAsikA > ************ ******** > akArO brahmarUpassyAnnirg uNassarva vastuShu > chitkaLAm im samAsritya jagatrUpa u NIshwarah // > > ie., a kara is Nirguna Parabrahma; Chitkala in the form of Kamakala is " I " ; Both Siva in the form of " a " unite with Sakti in the form of " I " and give out the by-product which is this Universe in the form of " uN " . > > akAra sarvavarNAgryah prakAsah paramasivah > Adi raMtyEna saMyOgAd " AHAM " iti eva jAyatE // > > From the 1st sutra of Maheshwara Sutras, " a " denotes the Prakasa Swarupa Parasiva. When this unites with " h " of the 14th Sutra, becomes " AHAM " which is called PratyagAtma. > > Like this, Nandikeshwara wrote 7 kAsikAs on the 1st sutra. And for every sutra, Sage Upamanyu wrote Tattva Vimarsini Vyakhya. > > So, the 4th Kasika of the 1st Sutra says: > > jagatsraShTu mabhUdvAM cha yadA hyAsItatadAbhavat > kAmabIjam iti prAhu rmunayO vEdapAragAh // > > Nandikeshwara says that " e " kAra is the svatantra swarupa which is called `mAyA " . This mAyA sakti " e " uniting with Siva in the form of " a " , creates the entire cosmos in the form of " AHAM " which is the " sabda shrishti " in the form of 16 vowels & 34 consonants. This AHAM encompasses in itself entire 14 Maheshwara Sutras. > > This AHAM is the Creation which is formed with the union of Siva (a) and Maya (e). > > Commenting on this kAsikA, Sage Upamanyu says in his Tattva Vimarsini as: > > Tatra sarvatra e-kArasyaiva sarva-tantratA mAha †" akAra miti // > > This " e " kara is the Svatantra Sakti which is mAyA. Further Sage Upamanyu Says: > > Tattva Vimarsini of Upamanyu > > ************ ********* ***** > > jagatsraShTu mabhUtvAmchEti †" uktam cha " svaprkAsaparaMatma vastunO drishyamAnajagatssi srukShayA, kAmatah parasivapravEshanaM kAmabIjam idam eva nischitam " iti " bIjam bindudvayArUDham sAdhyayOnisvarUpaka M MAHAKAMAKALA RUPA mAtmAnam chintayEt priyE " // > > ************ ******* > > When Svaprakasa rupa Paramatma thinks of creating this universe, there is a desire in Him of becoming many. This " desire of becoming many " in the form of Creation takes birth in the Parasiva (a). This Desire is the Kama Bija. This Kama Bija is the Chitkala that takes the form of " e " . > > Such a Paramasiva having the Desire is called Kameshwara and His mAyA sakti is Kameshwari. This Mithuna or the Union is called Kamakoti which is the form of MAHA-KAMAKALA. > > kAnchipuranAyikAm hridi bhAvayE….. > > regs, > sriram > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Namaste. IMHO this interpretation does not conform to the sampradaya. regs, sriram , vsnm prasad mellacheruvu <melchoir47 wrote: > > kamakoti has another meaning as taught to me by one of our srividyopaasakas. > it goes like this. > > kama means the wants of the human mind which is like a ocean, and the wants > are countless as water in the seas, and it is not one ocean, but seven > oceans, sapta samudras. the wants, as they are met, keep on coming, like the > waves in the ocean, which means these wants are endless, unlimited and even > more than the whole bhoo mandala, leaving the water. > > koti also means the other side of a given area, which means the space beyond > the boundary of a given object for visualization. generally for a human eye > on the earthly plane, the otherside of the sea is not visible. > > now, take both kaama and koti. this simply means the otherside of the sea of > wants. further explanation is that the human being from the time of entering > the womb of the mother, till the being leaves the earthy world, goes in > whirls in the sea of wants. when once he goes outside this sea and reaches > the shore, this means that he has conquered all his wants / desires and > reached the other side of the sea, which is the kaivalya and which is the > abode of the most revered goddess, sri raja rajeswari maata. > > when i was asked by my father to name our newly built house, it occured to > me that we should name it as SRIKAMAKOTI - meaning the adobe of the saatwika > kakaara bhattaarika, mahaaa kaameswaree maata. every one liked it, and > believe me, there are no wants in our house since then, till now. every one > who lives here, live in perpetual happiness and in the thinking of maata sri > raja rajeswari. > > sri maatre namaha. > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Gopal Gopinath <gopal_gopinathwrote: > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > Namaste. > > > > This is a side note on your expostion of KamaKoti. > > > > As you would know, " koti " being translated merely into a numerical value is > > not restricted to recent times. 33 koti devathaas of Rigveda was interpreted > > by europeans as 33 crores of devathaas. (Koti = = 'crore' as one of the > > meanings). This point was then added to their (proletrizing europeans of the > > past) arsenal for ridiculing hindu dharma. It is thought so because, the > > same scholars were aware of upanishadic description of 33 gods or 33 > > categories of gods (eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve Ä€dityas, Indra and > > PrajÄpati). > > > > It will help to clarify more clearly if you could point to the sense in > > which " koti " is used here as it seems like Max Muller and Co. have a long > > lasting effect on how we ( or just myself) perceive our own Devathaas. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -gopal > > > > ________________________________ > > Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi<sriram_sapthasathi%40grouply.com> > > > > > <%40> > > Sat, January 30, 2010 5:51:41 AM > > kamakala in the form of " e " > > > > Namaste. > > > > After having read in a certain website about the distorted version of the > > definition of Kamakoti as " BILLIOUS OF LOVE " , i thought of writing a small > > article on Kamakala and tat-swarupa. > > > > The scholar might have translated kamakoti in literal sense where koti > > means billions and kama as love. And hence, Kamakoti. > > > > Since, this gentleman is the member of this forum, i request him not to > > publish these as there is every danger that some laymen might take that for > > granted. > > > > Here is my version. Some of the portions i have already mailed long ago > > here as a part of Maheshwara Sutra. But as a part of manana, i am presenting > > again. > > > > ************ ******** > > > > The Nataraja in Chidambaram or Tillaivanam performs the Tandava dance > > before Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, Sanaka, Sanandana and other sages. At the > > close of the dance, Nataraja produces 14 sounds with his Damaruka. From > > these 14 sounds, emanated 14 Sutras and 14 branches of vedic learning. The > > fourteen sounds produced by Nataraja's drum are the means by which the > > Reality of Siva is to be known and experienced within us. The sages obtained > > the inner vision to see this Great Cosmic dance of Siva. At the end, > > everyone were in the ocean of Bliss Absolute. Among those present at > > Nataraja's dance was Panini. For him these 14 sounds meant the fourteen > > cardinal sutras of Grammer and on them he based his " Ashtadhyayi " . The > > Nataraja was the Sabda-Brahma Incarnate and at the > > conclusion of his Tandava, these series of fourteen letters emanated: > > > > 1) a i un > > 2) r l k > > 3) e on > > 4) ai au c > > 5) ha ya va ra t > > 6) la n > > 7) jna ma gna Nna na m > > 8) jha bha n > > 9) gha dad ha s > > 10) ja ba ga da da s > > 11) kha pha cha that ha ca ta ta v > > 12) ka pa y > > 13) sa sa sar > > 14) ha l > > > > Based on the above 14 sutras, Sage Nandikeswara has written a commentary > > called " kAsika " . And based on the kAsika, Sage Upamanyu wrote a commentary > > called " Tatva Vimarsini " . > > > > If time permits, I will present the entire kAsikA and Tattva Vimarsini as a > > series of posts, but now I would give out the commentary for the 1st sutra > > ie., a, I, u, n. > > > > 1st Sutra: a i u n > > > > Nirguna Parabrahma who is Siva is denoted by first letter `a'. The Sakti in > > the form of Chit Kala is denoted by `i' in this sutra. This is the medium or > > upadhi. Siva (a) with Sakti (i) as upadhi gets manifested as Saguna Brahma > > (u). This saguna brahma (u) gets transformed into Jagat (n). > > > > Here `a' is non-objective bliss †" Siva tattva; `i' is the Kamakala †" Sakti > > tattva; `u' is Ishwara tattva > > > > ************ ********* > > As per Nandikeshwara kAsikA > > ************ ******** > > akArO brahmarUpassyAnnirg uNassarva vastuShu > > chitkaLAm im samAsritya jagatrUpa u NIshwarah // > > > > ie., a kara is Nirguna Parabrahma; Chitkala in the form of Kamakala is " I " ; > > Both Siva in the form of " a " unite with Sakti in the form of " I " and give > > out the by-product which is this Universe in the form of " uN " . > > > > akAra sarvavarNAgryah prakAsah paramasivah > > Adi raMtyEna saMyOgAd " AHAM " iti eva jAyatE // > > > > From the 1st sutra of Maheshwara Sutras, " a " denotes the Prakasa Swarupa > > Parasiva. When this unites with " h " of the 14th Sutra, becomes " AHAM " which > > is called PratyagAtma. > > > > Like this, Nandikeshwara wrote 7 kAsikAs on the 1st sutra. And for every > > sutra, Sage Upamanyu wrote Tattva Vimarsini Vyakhya. > > > > So, the 4th Kasika of the 1st Sutra says: > > > > jagatsraShTu mabhUdvAM cha yadA hyAsItatadAbhavat > > kAmabIjam iti prAhu rmunayO vEdapAragAh // > > > > Nandikeshwara says that " e " kAra is the svatantra swarupa which is called > > `mAyA " . This mAyA sakti " e " uniting with Siva in the form of " a " , creates > > the entire cosmos in the form of " AHAM " which is the " sabda shrishti " in the > > form of 16 vowels & 34 consonants. This AHAM encompasses in itself entire 14 > > Maheshwara Sutras. > > > > This AHAM is the Creation which is formed with the union of Siva (a) and > > Maya (e). > > > > Commenting on this kAsikA, Sage Upamanyu says in his Tattva Vimarsini as: > > > > Tatra sarvatra e-kArasyaiva sarva-tantratA mAha †" akAra miti // > > > > This " e " kara is the Svatantra Sakti which is mAyA. Further Sage Upamanyu > > Says: > > > > Tattva Vimarsini of Upamanyu > > > > ************ ********* ***** > > > > jagatsraShTu mabhUtvAmchEti †" uktam cha " svaprkAsaparaMatma vastunO > > drishyamAnajagatssi srukShayA, kAmatah parasivapravEshanaM kAmabIjam idam > > eva nischitam " iti " bIjam bindudvayArUDham sAdhyayOnisvarUpaka M > > MAHAKAMAKALA RUPA mAtmAnam chintayEt priyE " // > > > > ************ ******* > > > > When Svaprakasa rupa Paramatma thinks of creating this universe, there is a > > desire in Him of becoming many. This " desire of becoming many " in the form > > of Creation takes birth in the Parasiva (a). This Desire is the Kama Bija. > > This Kama Bija is the Chitkala that takes the form of " e " . > > > > Such a Paramasiva having the Desire is called Kameshwara and His mAyA sakti > > is Kameshwari. This Mithuna or the Union is called Kamakoti which is the > > form of MAHA-KAMAKALA. > > > > kAnchipuranAyikAm hridi bhAvayE….. > > > > regs, > > sriram > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Namaste. kAma is Parasiva; " koTi " implies " avadhi " or the " highest boundary " . So, the principle which has Parasiva as the highest boundary is kAmakoTi which is siva-saktyAtmaka tattva. Shri Bhaskararaya says kAma is Parasiva tattva and koTi is " ekadesha " ie., a portion. Mathematically speaking, Domain is Divine Mother where Parasiva is a subset. Acharya Sankara says that " shaNNavati pITheShu madhye kAmakoTi shrIchakramityarthah " . Here, kAmakoTi is Srichakra. Bindu-sthAna is the central point which is siva-saktyAtmaka swarupa. And hence kAmakotikA. Sankara uses " shaNNavati pIThas " here which is none other than our pindanda ie., deha. The 54th mantra of Trishikhi Brahmanopanishad says // dehamAnaM svAnguLIbhiH shaNNavatyanguLayataM sharIrAt adhiko dwAdashAngula mAnataH //……54 ie., the prANa-vyApti in the deha is 96 (shaNNavati) anguShTa pramANa (size equivalent to one's own thumb) (which is the black line across the thumb). The subsequent mantras " deha madhyE shikhi sthAnaM …..trikoNaM … " are self-explanatory. Now, this deha itself is Srichakra as per the pramaNa of Bhavanopanishad which says " nava randhra rupa dehaH nava chakra rupaM srIchakraM " , and hence, the " Chitkala " that shines in " deha-madhya-sthita-dahara-akAsa " is the kAmakoTikA. Matsya Purana addresses this kaLA as " sarvasarIriNAm chitte brahmakaLA nAma sakti " which implies that the vAstava sAkta pITha is the Brahma KaLA that sports in Dahara Akasa or Chidakasa. ******* In rg veda, there are 33 categories of gods divided in 3 planes ie., bhuh, bhuvah & suvah equally into 11 respectively. The 4th plane is the " parame vyoman " . Regs, Sriram , Gopal Gopinath <gopal_gopinath wrote: > > Dear Sriram, > > Namaste. > > This is a side note on your expostion of KamaKoti. > > As you would know, " koti " being translated merely into a numerical value is not restricted to recent times. 33 koti devathaas of Rigveda was interpreted by europeans as 33 crores of devathaas. (Koti = = 'crore' as one of the meanings). This point was then added to their (proletrizing europeans of the past) arsenal for ridiculing hindu dharma. It is thought so because, the same scholars were aware of upanishadic description of 33 gods or 33 categories of gods (eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve Ä€dityas, Indra and PrajÄpati). > > It will help to clarify more clearly if you could point to the sense in which " koti " is used here as it seems like Max Muller and Co. have a long lasting effect on how we ( or just myself) perceive our own Devathaas. > > Thanks, > > -gopal > > > > > ________________________________ > Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi > > Sat, January 30, 2010 5:51:41 AM > kamakala in the form of " e " > > > Namaste. > > After having read in a certain website about the distorted version of the definition of Kamakoti as " BILLIOUS OF LOVE " , i thought of writing a small article on Kamakala and tat-swarupa. > > The scholar might have translated kamakoti in literal sense where koti means billions and kama as love. And hence, Kamakoti. > > Since, this gentleman is the member of this forum, i request him not to publish these as there is every danger that some laymen might take that for granted. > > Here is my version. Some of the portions i have already mailed long ago here as a part of Maheshwara Sutra. But as a part of manana, i am presenting again. > > ************ ******** > > The Nataraja in Chidambaram or Tillaivanam performs the Tandava dance before Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, Sanaka, Sanandana and other sages. At the close of the dance, Nataraja produces 14 sounds with his Damaruka. From these 14 sounds, emanated 14 Sutras and 14 branches of vedic learning. The fourteen sounds produced by Nataraja's drum are the means by which the Reality of Siva is to be known and experienced within us. The sages obtained the inner vision to see this Great Cosmic dance of Siva. At the end, everyone were in the ocean of Bliss Absolute. Among those present at Nataraja's dance was Panini. For him these 14 sounds meant the fourteen cardinal sutras of Grammer and on them he based his " Ashtadhyayi " . The Nataraja was the Sabda-Brahma Incarnate and at the > conclusion of his Tandava, these series of fourteen letters emanated: > > 1) a i un > 2) r l k > 3) e on > 4) ai au c > 5) ha ya va ra t > 6) la n > 7) jna ma gna Nna na m > 8) jha bha n > 9) gha dad ha s > 10) ja ba ga da da s > 11) kha pha cha that ha ca ta ta v > 12) ka pa y > 13) sa sa sar > 14) ha l > > Based on the above 14 sutras, Sage Nandikeswara has written a commentary called " kAsika " . And based on the kAsika, Sage Upamanyu wrote a commentary called " Tatva Vimarsini " . > > If time permits, I will present the entire kAsikA and Tattva Vimarsini as a series of posts, but now I would give out the commentary for the 1st sutra ie., a, I, u, n. > > 1st Sutra: a i u n > > Nirguna Parabrahma who is Siva is denoted by first letter `a'. The Sakti in the form of Chit Kala is denoted by `i' in this sutra. This is the medium or upadhi. Siva (a) with Sakti (i) as upadhi gets manifested as Saguna Brahma (u). This saguna brahma (u) gets transformed into Jagat (n). > > Here `a' is non-objective bliss †" Siva tattva; `i' is the Kamakala †" Sakti tattva; `u' is Ishwara tattva > > ************ ********* > As per Nandikeshwara kAsikA > ************ ******** > akArO brahmarUpassyAnnirg uNassarva vastuShu > chitkaLAm im samAsritya jagatrUpa u NIshwarah // > > ie., a kara is Nirguna Parabrahma; Chitkala in the form of Kamakala is " I " ; Both Siva in the form of " a " unite with Sakti in the form of " I " and give out the by-product which is this Universe in the form of " uN " . > > akAra sarvavarNAgryah prakAsah paramasivah > Adi raMtyEna saMyOgAd " AHAM " iti eva jAyatE // > > From the 1st sutra of Maheshwara Sutras, " a " denotes the Prakasa Swarupa Parasiva. When this unites with " h " of the 14th Sutra, becomes " AHAM " which is called PratyagAtma. > > Like this, Nandikeshwara wrote 7 kAsikAs on the 1st sutra. And for every sutra, Sage Upamanyu wrote Tattva Vimarsini Vyakhya. > > So, the 4th Kasika of the 1st Sutra says: > > jagatsraShTu mabhUdvAM cha yadA hyAsItatadAbhavat > kAmabIjam iti prAhu rmunayO vEdapAragAh // > > Nandikeshwara says that " e " kAra is the svatantra swarupa which is called `mAyA " . This mAyA sakti " e " uniting with Siva in the form of " a " , creates the entire cosmos in the form of " AHAM " which is the " sabda shrishti " in the form of 16 vowels & 34 consonants. This AHAM encompasses in itself entire 14 Maheshwara Sutras. > > This AHAM is the Creation which is formed with the union of Siva (a) and Maya (e). > > Commenting on this kAsikA, Sage Upamanyu says in his Tattva Vimarsini as: > > Tatra sarvatra e-kArasyaiva sarva-tantratA mAha †" akAra miti // > > This " e " kara is the Svatantra Sakti which is mAyA. Further Sage Upamanyu Says: > > Tattva Vimarsini of Upamanyu > > ************ ********* ***** > > jagatsraShTu mabhUtvAmchEti †" uktam cha " svaprkAsaparaMatma vastunO drishyamAnajagatssi srukShayA, kAmatah parasivapravEshanaM kAmabIjam idam eva nischitam " iti " bIjam bindudvayArUDham sAdhyayOnisvarUpaka M MAHAKAMAKALA RUPA mAtmAnam chintayEt priyE " // > > ************ ******* > > When Svaprakasa rupa Paramatma thinks of creating this universe, there is a desire in Him of becoming many. This " desire of becoming many " in the form of Creation takes birth in the Parasiva (a). This Desire is the Kama Bija. This Kama Bija is the Chitkala that takes the form of " e " . > > Such a Paramasiva having the Desire is called Kameshwara and His mAyA sakti is Kameshwari. This Mithuna or the Union is called Kamakoti which is the form of MAHA-KAMAKALA. > > kAnchipuranAyikAm hridi bhAvayE….. > > regs, > sriram > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 NamaskaramAs a subtext to the interpretation of the word 'KOTI', it is used in the sense of a limit or avadhi. the term is in such a sense is found in the popular nomenclature of " Dhanoshkoti " , which actually means the tip of the bow ( obvious that it cannot refer to varietie or numerical ) RamachandraSekhar Hari Om --- On Fri, 5/2/10, Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi wrote: Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi Re: kamakala in the form of " e " Friday, 5 February, 2010, 12:55 PM  Namaste. kAma is Parasiva; " koTi " implies " avadhi " or the " highest boundary " . So, the principle which has Parasiva as the highest boundary is kAmakoTi which is siva-saktyAtmaka tattva. Shri Bhaskararaya says kAma is Parasiva tattva and koTi is " ekadesha " ie., a portion. Mathematically speaking, Domain is Divine Mother where Parasiva is a subset. Acharya Sankara says that " shaNNavati pITheShu madhye kAmakoTi shrIchakramityartha h " . Here, kAmakoTi is Srichakra. Bindu-sthAna is the central point which is siva-saktyAtmaka swarupa. And hence kAmakotikA. Sankara uses " shaNNavati pIThas " here which is none other than our pindanda ie., deha. The 54th mantra of Trishikhi Brahmanopanishad says // dehamAnaM svAnguLIbhiH shaNNavatyanguLayat aM sharIrAt adhiko dwAdashAngula mAnataH //……54 ie., the prANa-vyApti in the deha is 96 (shaNNavati) anguShTa pramANa (size equivalent to one's own thumb) (which is the black line across the thumb). The subsequent mantras " deha madhyE shikhi sthAnaM …..trikoNaM … " are self-explanatory. Now, this deha itself is Srichakra as per the pramaNa of Bhavanopanishad which says " nava randhra rupa dehaH nava chakra rupaM srIchakraM " , and hence, the " Chitkala " that shines in " deha-madhya- sthita-dahara- akAsa " is the kAmakoTikA. Matsya Purana addresses this kaLA as " sarvasarIriNAm chitte brahmakaLA nAma sakti " which implies that the vAstava sAkta pITha is the Brahma KaLA that sports in Dahara Akasa or Chidakasa. ******* In rg veda, there are 33 categories of gods divided in 3 planes ie., bhuh, bhuvah & suvah equally into 11 respectively. The 4th plane is the " parame vyoman " . Regs, Sriram @ .com, Gopal Gopinath <gopal_gopinath@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Sriram, > > Namaste. > > This is a side note on your expostion of KamaKoti. > > As you would know, " koti " being translated merely into a numerical value is not restricted to recent times. 33 koti devathaas of Rigveda was interpreted by europeans as 33 crores of devathaas. (Koti = = 'crore' as one of the meanings). This point was then added to their (proletrizing europeans of the past) arsenal for ridiculing hindu dharma. It is thought so because, the same scholars were aware of upanishadic description of 33 gods or 33 categories of gods (eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve Ä€dityas, Indra and PrajÄ�pati). > > It will help to clarify more clearly if you could point to the sense in which " koti " is used here as it seems like Max Muller and Co. have a long lasting effect on how we ( or just myself) perceive our own Devathaas. > > Thanks, > > -gopal > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi > @ .com > Sat, January 30, 2010 5:51:41 AM > kamakala in the form of " e " > > > Namaste. > > After having read in a certain website about the distorted version of the definition of Kamakoti as " BILLIOUS OF LOVE " , i thought of writing a small article on Kamakala and tat-swarupa. > > The scholar might have translated kamakoti in literal sense where koti means billions and kama as love. And hence, Kamakoti. > > Since, this gentleman is the member of this forum, i request him not to publish these as there is every danger that some laymen might take that for granted. > > Here is my version. Some of the portions i have already mailed long ago here as a part of Maheshwara Sutra. But as a part of manana, i am presenting again. > > ************ ******** > > The Nataraja in Chidambaram or Tillaivanam performs the Tandava dance before Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, Sanaka, Sanandana and other sages. At the close of the dance, Nataraja produces 14 sounds with his Damaruka. From these 14 sounds, emanated 14 Sutras and 14 branches of vedic learning. The fourteen sounds produced by Nataraja's drum are the means by which the Reality of Siva is to be known and experienced within us. The sages obtained the inner vision to see this Great Cosmic dance of Siva. At the end, everyone were in the ocean of Bliss Absolute. Among those present at Nataraja's dance was Panini. For him these 14 sounds meant the fourteen cardinal sutras of Grammer and on them he based his " Ashtadhyayi " . The Nataraja was the Sabda-Brahma Incarnate and at the > conclusion of his Tandava, these series of fourteen letters emanated: > > 1) a i un > 2) r l k > 3) e on > 4) ai au c > 5) ha ya va ra t > 6) la n > 7) jna ma gna Nna na m > 8) jha bha n > 9) gha dad ha s > 10) ja ba ga da da s > 11) kha pha cha that ha ca ta ta v > 12) ka pa y > 13) sa sa sar > 14) ha l > > Based on the above 14 sutras, Sage Nandikeswara has written a commentary called " kAsika " . And based on the kAsika, Sage Upamanyu wrote a commentary called " Tatva Vimarsini " . > > If time permits, I will present the entire kAsikA and Tattva Vimarsini as a series of posts, but now I would give out the commentary for the 1st sutra ie., a, I, u, n. > > 1st Sutra: a i u n > > Nirguna Parabrahma who is Siva is denoted by first letter `a'. The Sakti in the form of Chit Kala is denoted by `i' in this sutra. This is the medium or upadhi. Siva (a) with Sakti (i) as upadhi gets manifested as Saguna Brahma (u). This saguna brahma (u) gets transformed into Jagat (n). > > Here `a' is non-objective bliss †" Siva tattva; `i' is the Kamakala †" Sakti tattva; `u' is Ishwara tattva > > ************ ********* > As per Nandikeshwara kAsikA > ************ ******** > akArO brahmarUpassyAnnirg uNassarva vastuShu > chitkaLAm im samAsritya jagatrUpa u NIshwarah // > > ie., a kara is Nirguna Parabrahma; Chitkala in the form of Kamakala is " I " ; Both Siva in the form of " a " unite with Sakti in the form of " I " and give out the by-product which is this Universe in the form of " uN " . > > akAra sarvavarNAgryah prakAsah paramasivah > Adi raMtyEna saMyOgAd " AHAM " iti eva jAyatE // > > From the 1st sutra of Maheshwara Sutras, " a " denotes the Prakasa Swarupa Parasiva. When this unites with " h " of the 14th Sutra, becomes " AHAM " which is called PratyagAtma. > > Like this, Nandikeshwara wrote 7 kAsikAs on the 1st sutra. And for every sutra, Sage Upamanyu wrote Tattva Vimarsini Vyakhya. > > So, the 4th Kasika of the 1st Sutra says: > > jagatsraShTu mabhUdvAM cha yadA hyAsItatadAbhavat > kAmabIjam iti prAhu rmunayO vEdapAragAh // > > Nandikeshwara says that " e " kAra is the svatantra swarupa which is called `mAyA " . This mAyA sakti " e " uniting with Siva in the form of " a " , creates the entire cosmos in the form of " AHAM " which is the " sabda shrishti " in the form of 16 vowels & 34 consonants. This AHAM encompasses in itself entire 14 Maheshwara Sutras. > > This AHAM is the Creation which is formed with the union of Siva (a) and Maya (e). > > Commenting on this kAsikA, Sage Upamanyu says in his Tattva Vimarsini as: > > Tatra sarvatra e-kArasyaiva sarva-tantratA mAha †" akAra miti // > > This " e " kara is the Svatantra Sakti which is mAyA. Further Sage Upamanyu Says: > > Tattva Vimarsini of Upamanyu > > ************ ********* ***** > > jagatsraShTu mabhUtvAmchEti †" uktam cha " svaprkAsaparaMatma vastunO drishyamAnajagatssi srukShayA, kAmatah parasivapravEshanaM kAmabIjam idam eva nischitam " iti " bIjam bindudvayArUDham sAdhyayOnisvarUpaka M MAHAKAMAKALA RUPA mAtmAnam chintayEt priyE " // > > ************ ******* > > When Svaprakasa rupa Paramatma thinks of creating this universe, there is a desire in Him of becoming many. This " desire of becoming many " in the form of Creation takes birth in the Parasiva (a). This Desire is the Kama Bija. This Kama Bija is the Chitkala that takes the form of " e " . > > Such a Paramasiva having the Desire is called Kameshwara and His mAyA sakti is Kameshwari. This Mithuna or the Union is called Kamakoti which is the form of MAHA-KAMAKALA. > > kAnchipuranAyikAm hridi bhAvayE….. > > regs, > sriram > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Kamakala is nothing but " Interaction for integration without intercourse " i.e. no body and mind contact but soul to soul contact between the guru and sishya to make the whole concept of energy between them as :abedha " , which means no difference.. regards, S.SHANGARANARAYANAN sriram_sapthasathi Tue, 2 Feb 2010 04:36:33 +0000 Re: kamakala in the form of " e " Namaste. IMHO this interpretation does not conform to the sampradaya. regs, sriram , vsnm prasad mellacheruvu <melchoir47 wrote: > > kamakoti has another meaning as taught to me by one of our srividyopaasakas. > it goes like this. > > kama means the wants of the human mind which is like a ocean, and the wants > are countless as water in the seas, and it is not one ocean, but seven > oceans, sapta samudras. the wants, as they are met, keep on coming, like the > waves in the ocean, which means these wants are endless, unlimited and even > more than the whole bhoo mandala, leaving the water. > > koti also means the other side of a given area, which means the space beyond > the boundary of a given object for visualization. generally for a human eye > on the earthly plane, the otherside of the sea is not visible. > > now, take both kaama and koti. this simply means the otherside of the sea of > wants. further explanation is that the human being from the time of entering > the womb of the mother, till the being leaves the earthy world, goes in > whirls in the sea of wants. when once he goes outside this sea and reaches > the shore, this means that he has conquered all his wants / desires and > reached the other side of the sea, which is the kaivalya and which is the > abode of the most revered goddess, sri raja rajeswari maata. > > when i was asked by my father to name our newly built house, it occured to > me that we should name it as SRIKAMAKOTI - meaning the adobe of the saatwika > kakaara bhattaarika, mahaaa kaameswaree maata. every one liked it, and > believe me, there are no wants in our house since then, till now. every one > who lives here, live in perpetual happiness and in the thinking of maata sri > raja rajeswari. > > sri maatre namaha. > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Gopal Gopinath <gopal_gopinathwrote: > > > > > > > Dear Sriram, > > > > Namaste. > > > > This is a side note on your expostion of KamaKoti. > > > > As you would know, " koti " being translated merely into a numerical value is > > not restricted to recent times. 33 koti devathaas of Rigveda was interpreted > > by europeans as 33 crores of devathaas. (Koti = = 'crore' as one of the > > meanings). This point was then added to their (proletrizing europeans of the > > past) arsenal for ridiculing hindu dharma. It is thought so because, the > > same scholars were aware of upanishadic description of 33 gods or 33 > > categories of gods (eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve Ä€dityas, Indra and > > PrajÄpati). > > > > It will help to clarify more clearly if you could point to the sense in > > which " koti " is used here as it seems like Max Muller and Co. have a long > > lasting effect on how we ( or just myself) perceive our own Devathaas. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -gopal > > > > ________________________________ > > Venkata Sriram <sriram_sapthasathi<sriram_sapthasathi%40grouply.com> > > > > > <%40> > > Sat, January 30, 2010 5:51:41 AM > > kamakala in the form of " e " > > > > Namaste. > > > > After having read in a certain website about the distorted version of the > > definition of Kamakoti as " BILLIOUS OF LOVE " , i thought of writing a small > > article on Kamakala and tat-swarupa. > > > > The scholar might have translated kamakoti in literal sense where koti > > means billions and kama as love. And hence, Kamakoti. > > > > Since, this gentleman is the member of this forum, i request him not to > > publish these as there is every danger that some laymen might take that for > > granted. > > > > Here is my version. Some of the portions i have already mailed long ago > > here as a part of Maheshwara Sutra. But as a part of manana, i am presenting > > again. > > > > ************ ******** > > > > The Nataraja in Chidambaram or Tillaivanam performs the Tandava dance > > before Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, Sanaka, Sanandana and other sages. At the > > close of the dance, Nataraja produces 14 sounds with his Damaruka. From > > these 14 sounds, emanated 14 Sutras and 14 branches of vedic learning. The > > fourteen sounds produced by Nataraja's drum are the means by which the > > Reality of Siva is to be known and experienced within us. The sages obtained > > the inner vision to see this Great Cosmic dance of Siva. At the end, > > everyone were in the ocean of Bliss Absolute. Among those present at > > Nataraja's dance was Panini. For him these 14 sounds meant the fourteen > > cardinal sutras of Grammer and on them he based his " Ashtadhyayi " . The > > Nataraja was the Sabda-Brahma Incarnate and at the > > conclusion of his Tandava, these series of fourteen letters emanated: > > > > 1) a i un > > 2) r l k > > 3) e on > > 4) ai au c > > 5) ha ya va ra t > > 6) la n > > 7) jna ma gna Nna na m > > 8) jha bha n > > 9) gha dad ha s > > 10) ja ba ga da da s > > 11) kha pha cha that ha ca ta ta v > > 12) ka pa y > > 13) sa sa sar > > 14) ha l > > > > Based on the above 14 sutras, Sage Nandikeswara has written a commentary > > called " kAsika " . And based on the kAsika, Sage Upamanyu wrote a commentary > > called " Tatva Vimarsini " . > > > > If time permits, I will present the entire kAsikA and Tattva Vimarsini as a > > series of posts, but now I would give out the commentary for the 1st sutra > > ie., a, I, u, n. > > > > 1st Sutra: a i u n > > > > Nirguna Parabrahma who is Siva is denoted by first letter `a'. The Sakti in > > the form of Chit Kala is denoted by `i' in this sutra. This is the medium or > > upadhi. Siva (a) with Sakti (i) as upadhi gets manifested as Saguna Brahma > > (u). This saguna brahma (u) gets transformed into Jagat (n). > > > > Here `a' is non-objective bliss †" Siva tattva; `i' is the Kamakala †" Sakti > > tattva; `u' is Ishwara tattva > > > > ************ ********* > > As per Nandikeshwara kAsikA > > ************ ******** > > akArO brahmarUpassyAnnirg uNassarva vastuShu > > chitkaLAm im samAsritya jagatrUpa u NIshwarah // > > > > ie., a kara is Nirguna Parabrahma; Chitkala in the form of Kamakala is " I " ; > > Both Siva in the form of " a " unite with Sakti in the form of " I " and give > > out the by-product which is this Universe in the form of " uN " . > > > > akAra sarvavarNAgryah prakAsah paramasivah > > Adi raMtyEna saMyOgAd " AHAM " iti eva jAyatE // > > > > From the 1st sutra of Maheshwara Sutras, " a " denotes the Prakasa Swarupa > > Parasiva. When this unites with " h " of the 14th Sutra, becomes " AHAM " which > > is called PratyagAtma. > > > > Like this, Nandikeshwara wrote 7 kAsikAs on the 1st sutra. And for every > > sutra, Sage Upamanyu wrote Tattva Vimarsini Vyakhya. > > > > So, the 4th Kasika of the 1st Sutra says: > > > > jagatsraShTu mabhUdvAM cha yadA hyAsItatadAbhavat > > kAmabIjam iti prAhu rmunayO vEdapAragAh // > > > > Nandikeshwara says that " e " kAra is the svatantra swarupa which is called > > `mAyA " . This mAyA sakti " e " uniting with Siva in the form of " a " , creates > > the entire cosmos in the form of " AHAM " which is the " sabda shrishti " in the > > form of 16 vowels & 34 consonants. This AHAM encompasses in itself entire 14 > > Maheshwara Sutras. > > > > This AHAM is the Creation which is formed with the union of Siva (a) and > > Maya (e). > > > > Commenting on this kAsikA, Sage Upamanyu says in his Tattva Vimarsini as: > > > > Tatra sarvatra e-kArasyaiva sarva-tantratA mAha †" akAra miti // > > > > This " e " kara is the Svatantra Sakti which is mAyA. Further Sage Upamanyu > > Says: > > > > Tattva Vimarsini of Upamanyu > > > > ************ ********* ***** > > > > jagatsraShTu mabhUtvAmchEti †" uktam cha " svaprkAsaparaMatma vastunO > > drishyamAnajagatssi srukShayA, kAmatah parasivapravEshanaM kAmabIjam idam > > eva nischitam " iti " bIjam bindudvayArUDham sAdhyayOnisvarUpaka M > > MAHAKAMAKALA RUPA mAtmAnam chintayEt priyE " // > > > > ************ ******* > > > > When Svaprakasa rupa Paramatma thinks of creating this universe, there is a > > desire in Him of becoming many. This " desire of becoming many " in the form > > of Creation takes birth in the Parasiva (a). This Desire is the Kama Bija. > > This Kama Bija is the Chitkala that takes the form of " e " . > > > > Such a Paramasiva having the Desire is called Kameshwara and His mAyA sakti > > is Kameshwari. This Mithuna or the Union is called Kamakoti which is the > > form of MAHA-KAMAKALA. > > > > kAnchipuranAyikAm hridi bhAvayE….. > > > > regs, > > sriram > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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