Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Nora! You're depressing me. How dare you wish to die young, when you have family and friends who would mourn you so much. Bad enough that we have to die OLD! When I was a youth, just out of college, I had a friend who took to heart the prayer that The Who voiced in one of their songs: " Hope I die before I get old. " He was a tall, handsome, strapping youth, with high ideals and very physical, and he would reiterate about how he didn't want to fade away, he wanted to die before he was 30, still young and vital, and full of promise. It was his romantic ideal. And I thought to myself, " what a jerk! " Well, he must be at least 50 now. I see him occasionally, still teaching martial arts, now greying at the temples, still popular with the ladies. He hasn't aged badly. And I hold my tongue, and don't ask him " why aren't you dead yet, my romantic friend? " On the other hand, I overheard another friend say (when he thought I was out of hearing), " Len is the first of my friends to get old. " I will admit that I LOOK old -- but I AM 56! My fingers are gnarled with arthritis, I walk with a cane, my beard is now mostly white. The Hispanic kids in my neighborhood call me " Papi. " But I take the view towards old age that the Buddhists do. Every more year lived is an opportunity to learn more about the Goddess, to guide sweet young things to at least consider your experience, rather than re-invent the wheel. Keep practicing, keep approaching enlightenment. I don't want to be a burden on my beloveds, either. But as long as the mind is sharp, and the heart soars at the sight of beauty in the universe, as long as I can help another, and show compassion, let me live! And while you have things to teach us and delight us with, Nora, you should stay around, too! om tare tuttare ture mama ayur punya gnana pushtim kuru soha! -- Len/ Kalipadma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 How can this happen? You Canoot die. You are Devi/Shakti. You are immortal and eternal. You are sakshat Param Brahmaswarupini. Who will help us cross the ocean of Samsara? Please, if you must die then take all of us with you.We will all be liberated. Jai Maa! SV , " Len Rosenberg " <kalipadma108 wrote: > And while you have things to teach us and delight us with, Nora, you > should stay around, too! > > om tare tuttare ture mama ayur punya gnana pushtim kuru soha! > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 , " Len Rosenberg " <kalipadma108 wrote: > > Nora! You're depressing me. How dare you wish to die young, when you have family and friends who would mourn you so much. Bad enough that we have to die OLD! > why? because death is such a taboo subject right? Nobody wants to talk or think about death. Why should you get depress, and why should anyone mourne for me. Its an attachement we all must do away. Life and death is part and parcel of life. You're born, you live, you do what you're suppose to do and you die. That is how things are. Remove all that attachments you have of another, if you want to advance yourself spiritually. That is what I believe in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 I am all for sticking around, too. Maybe I'm just lazy, but I'm not in the mood for changing jobs just yet, despite life showing us all some frequently compelling reasons to consider death a viable alternative. Human birth is a rare gift in which there are many opportunities for genuine sadhana; in between lives, I'm told it's hard to accomplish much of anything -- and what you don't do now you'll just have to come back and do later anyway. Still, since deadlines (no pun intended) tend to focus the mind, feel free to put your own personal deathclock to work *lol* http://www.deathclock.com/ , " srividya64 " <srividya64 wrote: > > How can this happen? You Canoot die. You are Devi/Shakti. You are > immortal and eternal. You are sakshat Param Brahmaswarupini. Who will > help us cross the ocean of Samsara? Please, if you must die then take > all of us with you.We will all be liberated. > > Jai Maa! > > SV > > , " Len Rosenberg " > <kalipadma108@> wrote: > > And while you have things to teach us and delight us with, Nora, you > > should stay around, too! > > > > om tare tuttare ture mama ayur punya gnana pushtim kuru soha! > > > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy wrote: > > why? because death is such a taboo subject right? Nobody wants to talk > or think about death. Why should you get depress, and why should > anyone mourne for me. Its an attachement we all must do away. Life and > death is part and parcel of life. You're born, you live, you do what > you're suppose to do and you die. That is how things are. Yes. But do you really feel like you're running out of things you're supposed to do?? Om Shantih Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 My death clock runs out at 70 unless I change my outlook from pessimistic to optimistic. Figures. pr , " Devi Bhakta " <devi_bhakta wrote: > > I am all for sticking around, too. Maybe I'm just lazy, but I'm not in > the mood for changing jobs just yet, despite life showing us all some > frequently compelling reasons to consider death a viable alternative. > Human birth is a rare gift in which there are many opportunities for > genuine sadhana; in between lives, I'm told it's hard to accomplish > much of anything -- and what you don't do now you'll just have to come > back and do later anyway. > > Still, since deadlines (no pun intended) tend to focus the mind, feel > free to put your own personal deathclock to work *lol* > > http://www.deathclock.com/ > > > , " srividya64 " <srividya64@> > wrote: > > > > How can this happen? You Canoot die. You are Devi/Shakti. You are > > immortal and eternal. You are sakshat Param Brahmaswarupini. Who will > > help us cross the ocean of Samsara? Please, if you must die then take > > all of us with you.We will all be liberated. > > > > Jai Maa! > > > > SV > > > > , " Len Rosenberg " > > <kalipadma108@> wrote: > > > And while you have things to teach us and delight us with, Nora, you > > > should stay around, too! > > > > > > om tare tuttare ture mama ayur punya gnana pushtim kuru soha! > > > > > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 > > , " NMadasamy " > <nmadasamy@> wrote: > > > > why? because death is such a taboo subject right? Nobody > wants to talk or think about death. Why should you get depress, and why should anyone mourne for me. Its an attachement we all must do away. Life and death is part and parcel of life. You're born, you live, you do what you're suppose to do and you die. That is how things are. , " colin777au " <colinr wrote: > Yes. > > But do you really feel like you're running out of things you're > supposed to do?? > > Om Shantih > Colin No I believe I will never run out of things to do. Again, do I have anything to do Or I like to believe I have so many things to do an and so its not fair for death to come to me now. I believe the main issue here is that Death is inevitable. It will happen some how or rather. We cannot escape from it. Death does not care weather you have a lot more to do or none. When you're time is up you go. Yet again when death occurs to others we get shock, when we ourselve are not sure that tomorrow we will still be alive. I dont know this what im saying, we should remove this attachment we have on others. Its justify to feel sad when somebody you love dies, but it should not be a drag. Life should move on. We should remove this fear we have of death. It is a journey or a travel. Death is like an exit which is also an entrance to another. If you are an adventurous traveler, death is an exciting journey you have to take in order to go to another. We will always have this fear of the unknown. It's natural. But if we look at death as another exciting journey, it becomes a welcome change. Alternatively look at death like a long lost love, give death a face and a body: a male or female. A lover who will hold your hand and lead you to the brand new world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 First of all,We are not the 'doer'. We are only an instrument in the hands of the Divine Mother. She is the one who pulls the strings .We are mere puppets. It is brave of you to welcome death with open hands. But it will not come when you desire but only comes when you have worked out all your 'karmas' in this lifetime and may be in future births too. In any case ,no one really dies. Only the body perishes. The soul is eternal. A true devotee of Devi never talks of death but only talks of living life to the fullest in the service of the Divine Mother Goddess. Jai Maa ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 My partner and I recently lost a dear friend. We have no doubt that he is fascinated by his new adventure. We are sad for the loss of his poetic companionship. It seemed too soon to lose him. He was an excellent bard. namaste pr , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy wrote: > > > > > , " NMadasamy " > > <nmadasamy@> wrote: > > > > > > why? because death is such a taboo subject right? Nobody > > wants to talk or think about death. Why should you get depress, > and why should anyone mourne for me. Its an attachement we all must > do away. Life and death is part and parcel of life. You're born, you > live, you do what you're suppose to do and you die. That is how > things are. > > , " colin777au " <colinr@> > wrote: > > Yes. > > > > But do you really feel like you're running out of things you're > > supposed to do?? > > > > Om Shantih > > Colin > > > No I believe I will never run out of things to do. Again, do I have > anything to do Or I like to believe I have so many things to do an > and so its not fair for death to come to me now. > > I believe the main issue here is that Death is inevitable. It will > happen some how or rather. We cannot escape from it. Death does not > care weather you have a lot more to do or none. When you're time is > up you go. Yet again when death occurs to others we get shock, when > we ourselve are not sure that tomorrow we will still be alive. I > dont know this what im saying, we should remove this attachment we > have on others. Its justify to feel sad when somebody you love dies, > but it should not be a drag. Life should move on. > > We should remove this fear we have of death. It is a journey or a > travel. Death is like an exit which is also an entrance to another. > If you are an adventurous traveler, death is an exciting journey you > have to take in order to go to another. We will always have this > fear of the unknown. It's natural. But if we look at death as > another exciting journey, it becomes a welcome change. Alternatively > look at death like a long lost love, give death a face and a body: a > male or female. A lover who will hold your hand and lead you to the > brand new world. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 , " srividya64 " <srividya64 wrote: > > First of all,We are not the 'doer'. We are only an instrument in > the hands of the Divine Mother. She is the one who pulls the > strings.We are mere puppets. Are we? > > It is brave of you to welcome death with open hands. But it will not come when you desire but only comes when you have worked out all > your 'karmas' in this lifetime and may be in future births too. Well I did say : if your time is up, you go. Arent we not talking the same thing? > In any case ,no one really dies. Only the body perishes. The soul is eternal. Which also means, death is just an illusion. > > A true devotee of Devi never talks of death but only talks of living life to the fullest in the service of the Divine Mother Goddess. > yeah! you are indeed right. Maybe I am a fake Devi devotee and a wannabe. But I always believe a true devotee of Devi embraces life as well as death. Never afraid to face death. When you only talk about living, its an attachment. The soul is in illusion stage, and when death eventually comes you all forget and go into stage of shock and question: why is this happening to me. You forget about death because you think about life and living too much. Living the life to the fullest in the service of the Divine Mother too means the courage to sacrifice oneself if the time comes : are you brave enough to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Dear " Srividya64 " I could as easily say " a true devotee of Devi never intentionally twists the words of others, but only talks of living life to the fullest in the service of the Divine Mother Goddess. " But that would be kinda nasty, wouldn't it? ;-) Peace DB, " Srividya62 " :-p , " srividya64 " <srividya64 wrote: > > A true devotee of Devi never talks of death but only talks of living > life to the fullest in the service of the Divine Mother Goddess. > > Jai Maa ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 who can REALLY control you besides you? if you were to by means of meditation and attainment of true clarity to call that immortal spirit soul into your flesh vehicle and make it a part of that vehicle, well, then a logical new situation would assert itself. it's not impossible. i cite as my evidence *SWAMI TANTRASANGHA* *his cyberspace presence is pretty big...but it's full of edifying information * *he has carefully and compassionately researched concerning the * *legendary " secret vehicle " of the Buddhists, tantrayana....* ** http://www.salvationscience.com/ in the swami tantrasangha can be seen some one whose mind has opened from contemplation and who is there, looking forward to a chance to benefit beings. On 4/24/07, srividya64 <srividya64 wrote: > > How can this happen? You Canoot die. You are Devi/Shakti. You are > immortal and eternal. You are sakshat Param Brahmaswarupini. Who will > help us cross the ocean of Samsara? Please, if you must die then take > all of us with you.We will all be liberated. > > Jai Maa! > > SV > > <%40>, > " Len Rosenberg " > <kalipadma108 wrote: > > And while you have things to teach us and delight us with, Nora, you > > should stay around, too! > > > > om tare tuttare ture mama ayur punya gnana pushtim kuru soha! > > > > -- Len/ Kalipadma > > > > > -- http://old.punx.com/ anti-racist-action fight fascism, racism, sexism and homophobia http://www.antiracistaction.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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