Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Clear yourself, get the light, remove ignorance etc etc. are very generalized things and offer no solution at all to a specific situation. Chant the lords name and be in the company of good people are some goody goody preachings that are ok to lead a normal balanced life. But what you are " promising " here is not exactly the solution to the person's problem. How many people are cured by the mantras of cancer or other diseases? There are many Gurus who have died of diseases. Of course you can say their karma, God's will, their mission completed or whatever. And at the end everything, it can be generalized to karma, so comes forth the generalized concept of do good karma and reap good results. Finish. We need no specialized branches of knowledges then. Again, its like saying - dude, u've got cancer, cuz u had bad karmas n forget the doctors. Just chant mahamantra and i promise u, u'll get completely cured at the end of the month, cuz cancer is dark energy and mantra is light. remove darkness from ur life and u'll get cured. Specific problems need specific solutions. And faith in the lord and chanting his name can go side by side. But may not ncessarily be a full fledged solution in itself. I've known people who were victims of black magic and nothing cured them. No pujas, no chantings, no gaudiyas nothing, unless they met specific tantriks who could remove th evil effect with their siddhi. Period! in just one sitting! 30 minutes!! Unfortunately I'm not in India now and do not know the address. Besides, these road-side black magicians follow certain evil and filthy practices to get their siddhis. It is like pleasing the `shaitan'. They call themselves tantrik but they are not connected to any specialized tantra. So the problems created by these evil minded persons, can be solved only by those who has the experience to deal with such practices. Tantra is a specialized and highly evolved branch of spiritual knowledge. It cannot be undermined by someone who has no sadhna shakti or experience in Tantra. To harness the powers of nature with sheer will power, highly scientific mantra sadhna (quite different from simple chanting), and ustilizing every faculty of a sadhak's physical and spiritual potential in a well devised, proven manner to acheive maximum success in minimum time is what tantra does. Then may the aim be spiritual progress or material progress. It can be removal of obstacles from a person's life, having good health or propetiating your favorite deity! Its all Tantra. tantra is not just 'black magic' nor are the tantriks dark evil people. Tantra and tantrik sadhna is highly specialized, and disciplined sadhna concept that can be understood by practical sadhnatmak kriya with a Guru only. Not by books or quotations. Highly accomplished sages and tantriks like Vishwamitra, Gorakhnath and numerous others have achieved the pinacle of sadhna, siddhi and success in their lives and were able to guide yugpurushas like Ramachandra and others. All this is possible through tantra. It gives unimaginable power to the user who has earned it with his diligence, asuterity, strength Guru and God's mercy and bhakti. And to use it wisely for the benefit of mankind is what they do. So it is a specialized knowledge that provides specialized solutions to lives problems. Life that is full of problems and misery is a continuous battle for survival and how can one progress with obstacles on every step? Its good if you can actually reach and get any deity's mercy in ur life. But if you can! Tantra also gives the way for that!! R Gramopatti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 DEVI forgive me for saying this!! Dearest gramo123 It got nothing to do with black magic or ghostly spells. Something about you is not right. No! its your head that is not right ! , " gramo123 " <gramo123 wrote: > > > Clear yourself, get the light, remove ignorance etc etc. are very > generalized things and offer no solution at all to a specific > situation. Chant the lords name and be in the company of good people > are some goody goody preachings that are ok to lead a normal balanced > life. But what you are " promising " here is not exactly the solution > to the person's problem. How many people are cured by the mantras of > cancer or other diseases? There are many Gurus who have died of > diseases. Of course you can say their karma, God's will, their > mission completed or whatever. And at the end everything, it can be > generalized to karma, so comes forth the generalized concept of do > good karma and reap good results. Finish. We need no specialized > branches of knowledges then. Again, its like saying - dude, u've got > cancer, cuz u had bad karmas n forget the doctors. Just chant > mahamantra and i promise u, u'll get completely cured at the end of > the month, cuz cancer is dark energy and mantra is light. remove > darkness from ur life and u'll get cured. > > Specific problems need specific solutions. And faith in the lord and > chanting his name can go side by side. But may not ncessarily be a > full fledged solution in itself. I've known people who were victims > of black magic and nothing cured them. No pujas, no chantings, no > gaudiyas nothing, unless they met specific tantriks who could remove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 , " gramo123 " <gramo123@> > wrote: > > > > > > Clear yourself, get the light, remove ignorance etc etc. are very > > generalized things and offer no solution at all to a specific > > situation. Chant the lords name and be in the company of good > people > > are some goody goody preachings that are ok to lead a normal > balanced > > life. But what you are " promising " here is not exactly the > solution > > to the person's problem. How many people are cured by the mantras > of > > cancer or other diseases? There are many Gurus who have died of > > diseases. Of course you can say their karma, God's will, their > > mission completed or whatever. And at the end everything, it can > be > > generalized to karma, so comes forth the generalized concept of do > > good karma and reap good results. Finish. We need no specialized > > branches of knowledges then. Again, its like saying - dude, u've > got > > cancer, cuz u had bad karmas n forget the doctors. Just chant > > mahamantra and i promise u, u'll get completely cured at the end > of > > the month, cuz cancer is dark energy and mantra is light. remove > > darkness from ur life and u'll get cured. > > > > Specific problems need specific solutions. And faith in the lord > and > > chanting his name can go side by side. But may not ncessarily be a > > full fledged solution in itself. I've known people who were > victims > > of black magic and nothing cured them. No pujas, no chantings, no > > gaudiyas nothing, unless they met specific tantriks who could > remove > Now I appreciate your intention to bring 'life' to this group. Honestly I rather this group to be quiet and silence than to entertain people like you who comes to this group with other intentions. Should you not remain with your political discussion in other group? Why are they getting to boring for you, now that you must come to the spiritual group? At 52 yrs old dont you have betters things to do? Is this your way of mocking other people spiritual practices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Interesting thoughts. But a simple thanks to zanna who said they will pray for you and a few words of acknowledgement to Upendra who is all willing to pray for your issues would have gone a loooooong way - rather than spending like 6 to 7 hours typing, reviewing and posting somethings which almost everybody here knows about. If you had asked for an explanation on certain things i posted earlier, I would've given the reason and may be who knows, you would have been guided to a tantrik who is well versed in anti-nasties practice. Apparently, that is not SHE intended to happen. Only SHE knows if you really need one to help you or......others. , " gramo123 " <gramo123 wrote: > > > Clear yourself, get the light, remove ignorance etc etc. are very > generalized things and offer no solution at all to a specific > situation. Chant the lords name and be in the company of good people > are some goody goody preachings that are ok to lead a normal balanced > life. But what you are " promising " here is not exactly the solution > to the person's problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Dear Gramopatti Please find below the link to chottanikara temple. http://www.chottanikkarabhagavathy.org/ Cheers Vinil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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