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Clear yourself, get the light, remove ignorance etc etc. are very

generalized things and offer no solution at all to a specific

situation. Chant the lords name and be in the company of good people

are some goody goody preachings that are ok to lead a normal balanced

life. But what you are " promising " here is not exactly the solution

to the person's problem. How many people are cured by the mantras of

cancer or other diseases? There are many Gurus who have died of

diseases. Of course you can say their karma, God's will, their

mission completed or whatever. And at the end everything, it can be

generalized to karma, so comes forth the generalized concept of do

good karma and reap good results. Finish. We need no specialized

branches of knowledges then. Again, its like saying - dude, u've got

cancer, cuz u had bad karmas n forget the doctors. Just chant

mahamantra and i promise u, u'll get completely cured at the end of

the month, cuz cancer is dark energy and mantra is light. remove

darkness from ur life and u'll get cured.

 

Specific problems need specific solutions. And faith in the lord and

chanting his name can go side by side. But may not ncessarily be a

full fledged solution in itself. I've known people who were victims

of black magic and nothing cured them. No pujas, no chantings, no

gaudiyas nothing, unless they met specific tantriks who could remove

th evil effect with their siddhi. Period! in just one sitting! 30

minutes!! Unfortunately I'm not in India now and do not know the

address. Besides, these road-side black magicians follow certain

evil and filthy practices to get their siddhis. It is like pleasing

the `shaitan'. They call themselves tantrik but they are not

connected to any specialized tantra. So the problems created by

these evil minded persons, can be solved only by those who has the

experience to deal with such practices.

 

Tantra is a specialized and highly evolved branch of spiritual

knowledge. It cannot be undermined by someone who has no sadhna

shakti or experience in Tantra. To harness the powers of nature with

sheer will power, highly scientific mantra sadhna (quite different

from simple chanting), and ustilizing every faculty of a sadhak's

physical and spiritual potential in a well devised, proven manner to

acheive maximum success in minimum time is what tantra does. Then may

the aim be spiritual progress or material progress. It can be removal

of obstacles from a person's life, having good health or propetiating

your favorite deity! Its all Tantra. tantra is not just 'black magic'

nor are the tantriks dark evil people. Tantra and tantrik sadhna is

highly specialized, and disciplined sadhna concept that can be

understood by practical sadhnatmak kriya with a Guru only. Not by

books or quotations. Highly accomplished sages and tantriks like

Vishwamitra, Gorakhnath and numerous others have achieved the pinacle

of sadhna, siddhi and success in their lives and were able to guide

yugpurushas like Ramachandra and others. All this is possible through

tantra. It gives unimaginable power to the user who has earned it

with his diligence, asuterity, strength Guru and God's mercy and

bhakti. And to use it wisely for the benefit of mankind is what they

do. So it is a specialized knowledge that provides specialized

solutions to lives problems. Life that is full of problems and misery

is a continuous battle for survival and how can one progress with

obstacles on every step? Its good if you can actually reach and get

any deity's mercy in ur life. But if you can! Tantra also gives the

way for that!!

 

R Gramopatti

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DEVI forgive me for saying this!!

 

Dearest gramo123 It got nothing to do with black magic or ghostly

spells. Something about you is not right. No! its your head that is

not right !

 

 

 

, " gramo123 " <gramo123

wrote:

>

>

> Clear yourself, get the light, remove ignorance etc etc. are very

> generalized things and offer no solution at all to a specific

> situation. Chant the lords name and be in the company of good

people

> are some goody goody preachings that are ok to lead a normal

balanced

> life. But what you are " promising " here is not exactly the

solution

> to the person's problem. How many people are cured by the mantras

of

> cancer or other diseases? There are many Gurus who have died of

> diseases. Of course you can say their karma, God's will, their

> mission completed or whatever. And at the end everything, it can

be

> generalized to karma, so comes forth the generalized concept of do

> good karma and reap good results. Finish. We need no specialized

> branches of knowledges then. Again, its like saying - dude, u've

got

> cancer, cuz u had bad karmas n forget the doctors. Just chant

> mahamantra and i promise u, u'll get completely cured at the end

of

> the month, cuz cancer is dark energy and mantra is light. remove

> darkness from ur life and u'll get cured.

>

> Specific problems need specific solutions. And faith in the lord

and

> chanting his name can go side by side. But may not ncessarily be a

> full fledged solution in itself. I've known people who were

victims

> of black magic and nothing cured them. No pujas, no chantings, no

> gaudiyas nothing, unless they met specific tantriks who could

remove

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, " gramo123 " <gramo123@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Clear yourself, get the light, remove ignorance etc etc. are

very

> > generalized things and offer no solution at all to a specific

> > situation. Chant the lords name and be in the company of good

> people

> > are some goody goody preachings that are ok to lead a normal

> balanced

> > life. But what you are " promising " here is not exactly the

> solution

> > to the person's problem. How many people are cured by the

mantras

> of

> > cancer or other diseases? There are many Gurus who have died of

> > diseases. Of course you can say their karma, God's will, their

> > mission completed or whatever. And at the end everything, it can

> be

> > generalized to karma, so comes forth the generalized concept of

do

> > good karma and reap good results. Finish. We need no specialized

> > branches of knowledges then. Again, its like saying - dude, u've

> got

> > cancer, cuz u had bad karmas n forget the doctors. Just chant

> > mahamantra and i promise u, u'll get completely cured at the end

> of

> > the month, cuz cancer is dark energy and mantra is light. remove

> > darkness from ur life and u'll get cured.

> >

> > Specific problems need specific solutions. And faith in the lord

> and

> > chanting his name can go side by side. But may not ncessarily be

a

> > full fledged solution in itself. I've known people who were

> victims

> > of black magic and nothing cured them. No pujas, no chantings,

no

> > gaudiyas nothing, unless they met specific tantriks who could

> remove

>

 

 

Now I appreciate your intention to bring 'life' to this group.

Honestly I rather this group to be quiet and silence than to

entertain people like you who comes to this group with other

intentions. Should you not remain with your political discussion in

other group? Why are they getting to boring for you, now that you

must come to the spiritual group? At 52 yrs old dont you have

betters things to do? Is this your way of mocking other

people spiritual practices?

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Interesting thoughts.

 

But a simple thanks to zanna who said they will pray for you and a few

words of acknowledgement to Upendra who is all willing to pray for your

issues would have gone a loooooong way - rather than spending like 6 to

7 hours typing, reviewing and posting somethings which almost everybody

here knows about.

 

If you had asked for an explanation on certain things i posted earlier,

I would've given the reason and may be who knows, you would have been

guided to a tantrik who is well versed in anti-nasties practice.

Apparently, that is not SHE intended to happen. Only SHE knows if you

really need one to help you or......others.

 

 

, " gramo123 " <gramo123 wrote:

>

>

> Clear yourself, get the light, remove ignorance etc etc. are very

> generalized things and offer no solution at all to a specific

> situation. Chant the lords name and be in the company of good people

> are some goody goody preachings that are ok to lead a normal balanced

> life. But what you are " promising " here is not exactly the solution

> to the person's problem.

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