Lord Ganapati with Thoth Deck -- Wha..?! -DB --Msbauju

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OM NAMAH SIVAYA

 

yes of course different strokes for different folks. thanks for

your interesting input. but the questions related more to the idea

that should someone feel inclined to personalize a deity through their

individual perceptions that it somehow transforms the deity from

something Divine to a mere decoration. this example along with your

post could also be seen as an individual's invested belief set

survival instincts filtered through lore, which results in trying to

state things in black/white either/or all or none thinking. and while

the all or nothing tactic works great on the school debate team or for

polarization between religions it may not necessarily be beneficial to

apply it in the realm of spirituality and Self Realization.

 

JAI MA

 

, " msbauju " <msbauju wrote:

>

>

> Thank you for an interesting and thoughtful post.

>

> But you know, someone else could see things differently.

>

> While you might believe that the most effective guide is your own

> intuition, someone else might believe that the guidance and grace of

> a guru or other spiritual master is the most effective for him. And

> while you may see traditional deity forms and established techniques

> as artificial and constraining; another might see them as tried-and-

> true. So where you see an evolution of mankind, someone else might

> see the evolution of your individual belief set.

>

> This isn't to say you are wrong; it may well be that there isn't an

> established tradition that suits you. It's just that there are other

> ways at looking at tradition.

>

> ecjensen_us wrote:

> Your [DB's] questions bring up something i have been thinking about

> for a

> while and want to ask here. it seems mankind has been steadily

> evolving toward its true Reality and purpose. and what prevents us as

> individuals from recognizing who and what we are, and how capable we

> are of attaining our True Reality, is none other than artificial

> perceptions or myths about God, the Bringers of Religion and Their

> teachings, ourselves, and those with whom we share this plane. myths

> related to these are i think called lore. lore being defined as any

> idea or concept that prevents us from manifesting our true Selves.

> Isn't the idea that a deity can't be adapted to our perceptions of

> Divinity really nothing more than lore? Why should our idea of

> Divinity need to conform to any idea held by culture or tradition? it

> seems any tradition's forms of deity are also in Reality incomplete as

> it is a representation of the Infinite compartmentalized through the

> constraints of the finite and therefore limiting the unlimited. and

> to accept that idea without the consideration that our own ideas of a

> deity is every bit as valid as the traditions of the past is to really

> change the word from tradition to traitition. with the root of the

> word being traitor, to our own Self that is. and DB the strip-mining

> analogy is interesting to use in a spiritual context. it is my

> understanding that strip-mining is the most effective way to get at

> the resources that are of value but buried deep beneath the surface.

> people don't like strip-mining because it may destroy that which is on

> the surface. in a spiritual context that which is buried below the

> surface is the Knowledge, Truth, or Eternal and the rest may not be

> intended to be static. Thanks for any clarification you can provide.

>

> JAI MA

>

> , " ecjensen_us "

> <ecjensen_us@> wrote:

> >

> > OM NAMAH SIVAYA

> >

> > your questions bring up something i have been thinking about for a

> > while and want to ask here. it seems mankind has been steadily

> > evolving toward its true Reality and purpose. and what prevents us

> as

> > individuals from recognizing who and what we are, and how capable we

> > are of attaining our True Reality, is none other than artificial

> > perceptions or myths about God, the Bringers of Religion and Their

> > teachings, ourselves, and those with whom we share this plane. myths

> > related to these are i think called lore. lore being defined as any

> > idea or concept that prevents us from manifesting our true Selves.

> > Isn't the idea that a deity can't be adapted to our perceptions of

> > Divinity really nothing more than lore? Why should our idea of

> > Divinity need to conform to any idea held by culture or tradition?

> it

> > seems any tradition's forms of deity are also in Reality incomplete

> as

> > it is a representation of the Infinite compartmentalized through the

> > constraints of the finite and therefore limiting the unlimited. and

> > to accept that idea without the consideration that our own ideas of

> a

> > deity is every bit as valid as the traditions of the past is to

> really

> > change the word from tradition to traitition. with the root of the

> > word being traitor, to our own Self that is. and DB the strip-

> mining

> > analogy is interesting to use in a spiritual context. it is my

> > understanding that strip-mining is the most effective way to get at

> > the resources that are of value but buried deep beneath the

> surface.

> > people don't like strip-mining because it may destroy that which is

> on

> > the surface. in a spiritual context that which is buried below the

> > surface is the Knowledge, Truth, or Eternal and the rest may not be

> > intended to be static. Thanks for any clarification you can provide.

> >

> > JAI MA

> >

> >

>