Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Namaste to all! I have a quaestion about runing from home. It's like that. I can hardly stay at home for even an hour. It's so intense and so negative. That is the biggest and realy the biggest limitation in my spiritual growth. And even some friends are bigg limitation in my spiritual growth. And what i'm asking is, if there are any ashrams or sadhus who will take me (western guy) under their custody (that they will teach me yoga and tantra and so on) and that they will happly take me as a spiritual pupil? Please help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 , " Danilo Jezernik " <danilo.jezernik wrote: > > Namaste to all! > > I have a quaestion about runing from home. It's like that. I can > hardly stay at home for even an hour. It's so intense and so negative. > That is the biggest and realy the biggest limitation in my spiritual > growth. And even some friends are bigg limitation in my spiritual > growth. And what i'm asking is, if there are any ashrams or sadhus who > will take me (western guy) under their custody (that they will teach > me yoga and tantra and so on) and that they will happly take me as a > spiritual pupil? > > Please help! > Maybe the problem is you and not the house, have you ever thought of it? What makes you think that in the ashrama you will get spiritual upliftment? Maybe time for you sit doan and reflect your own actions, or you may spend the rest of your time running from one ashrama to another, change from one sadhu to another. Why the need to run in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hello Danilo: Not really an answer to your query, but two comments: (1) If any " tantric guru " actually replies to your plea and agrees to take you " into their custody/under their wing, " please run as fast and far as you can in the other direction; and (2) A very wise guru once commented to me that the secret of sadhana in our tradition is not to achieve calm and focus in some controlled, artificial environment such as a monastery or ashram -- but precisely in the midst of the world's chaos. In any event, may Devi bless you in meeting the challenges you face. DB , " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy wrote: > > Maybe the problem is you and not the house, have you ever thought of > it? What makes you think that in the ashrama you will get spiritual > upliftment? Maybe time for you sit doan and reflect your own > actions, or you may spend the rest of your time running from one > ashrama to another, change from one sadhu to another. > > Why the need to run in the first place? > > > , " Danilo Jezernik " > <danilo.jezernik@> wrote: > > > > Namaste to all! > > > > I have a quaestion about runing from home. It's like that. I can > > hardly stay at home for even an hour. It's so intense and so > negative. > > That is the biggest and realy the biggest limitation in my > spiritual > > growth. And even some friends are bigg limitation in my spiritual > > growth. And what i'm asking is, if there are any ashrams or sadhus > who > > will take me (western guy) under their custody (that they will > teach > > me yoga and tantra and so on) and that they will happly take me as > a > > spiritual pupil? > > > > Please help! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Namaste: If you are underage, I don't think a guru would take you. It would be irresponsible for them to do so. You might be able to get some psychotherapy without parental consent. They can listen to you and teach you strategies for dealing with stress, so that you can change your own life now. Meditation will do the same thing, but if you have no strategy for coping with stress, sometimes it is difficult to cope. Peace, Shankari > > Namaste to all! > > I have a quaestion about runing from home. It's like that. I can hardly stay at home for even an hour. It's so intense and so negative.That is the biggest and realy the biggest limitation in my spiritual growth. And even some friends are bigg limitation in my spiritual growth. And what i'm asking is, if there are any ashrams or sadhus who will take me (western guy) under their custody (that they will teach me yoga and tantra and so on) and that they will happly take me as a spiritual pupil? > > > > Please help! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 If You are in school there should be a guidance counselor or a social worker, running away never solves any problems on the contrary it usually attracts the very situations You have been running away from. Stay on your spiritual path with Devi I am sure You will receive blessings and opportunities to further Your development. namaste, Joanna > > Namaste: > > If you are underage, I don't think a guru would take you. It would be irresponsible for them to do so. > > You might be able to get some psychotherapy without parental consent. They can listen to you and teach you strategies for dealing with stress, so that you can change your own life now. > > Meditation will do the same thing, but if you have no strategy for coping with stress, sometimes it is difficult to cope. > > Peace, > Shankari > > > > Namaste to all! > > > > I have a quaestion about runing from home. It's like that. I can > hardly stay at home for even an hour. It's so intense and so > negative.That is the biggest and realy the biggest limitation in my spiritual growth. And even some friends are bigg limitation in my spiritual growth. And what i'm asking is, if there are any ashrams or sadhus who will take me (western guy) under their custody (that they will teach me yoga and tantra and so on) and that they will happly take me as a spiritual pupil? > > > > > > Please help! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hi Nora Perhaps our friend is blessed with athletic feet. Why repeat your comments so many times? JR NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: , " Danilo Jezernik " <danilo.jezernik wrote: > > Namaste to all! > > I have a quaestion about runing from home. It's like that. I can > hardly stay at home for even an hour. It's so intense and so negative. > That is the biggest and realy the biggest limitation in my spiritual > growth. And even some friends are bigg limitation in my spiritual > growth. And what i'm asking is, if there are any ashrams or sadhus who > will take me (western guy) under their custody (that they will teach > me yoga and tantra and so on) and that they will happly take me as a > spiritual pupil? > > Please help! > Maybe the problem is you and not the house, have you ever thought of it? What makes you think that in the ashrama you will get spiritual upliftment? Maybe time for you sit doan and reflect your own actions, or you may spend the rest of your time running from one ashrama to another, change from one sadhu to another. Why the need to run in the first place? The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Thans to all for your advice. Devi Bhakta: what you wrote under second number is great. Thank you. It give me to think on all. What i'm going to do is whait and continue in my dayly practice. Then when i will have some money i will go on my own. In my apartment. Then i could do sadhanas any time i want. Thanks to all for response, and all you have helped me. I'm not in school and i dont need social worker or any one. The best help is, that you help yourself, all alone, because you know yourself more than anyone. I will get a job from fev months, but the job will take me 8 hours a day. Imagine what some one can do in 8 hours. Well, i will take that job, and i will save money for my future. Have a nice day to all, Danilo 2007/6/27, joannapollner <joannapollner: > > If You are in school there should be a guidance counselor or a social > worker, running away never solves any problems on the contrary it > usually attracts the very situations You have been running away from. > Stay on your spiritual path with Devi I am sure You will receive > blessings and opportunities to further Your development. > > namaste, Joanna > > > > > Namaste: > > > > If you are underage, I don't think a guru would take you. It would > be irresponsible for them to do so. > > > > You might be able to get some psychotherapy without parental > consent. They can listen to you and teach you strategies for dealing > with stress, so that you can change your own life now. > > > > Meditation will do the same thing, but if you have no strategy for > coping with stress, sometimes it is difficult to cope. > > > > Peace, > > Shankari > > > > > > Namaste to all! > > > > > > I have a quaestion about runing from home. It's like that. I can > > hardly stay at home for even an hour. It's so intense and so > > negative.That is the biggest and realy the biggest limitation in my > spiritual growth. And even some friends are bigg limitation in my > spiritual growth. And what i'm asking is, if there are any ashrams or > sadhus who will take me (western guy) under their custody (that they > will teach me yoga and tantra and so on) and that they will happly > take me as a spiritual pupil? > > > > > > > > Please help! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Namaste Danilo: Glad to help. You might talk to a Temple priest as well if you can. Remember you don't have to walk this path alone. I would also suggest that you pray the Gayatri mantra for wisdom or even Ganapathi for wisdom and direction as well. Are you having trouble practicing your religion in your house? If that is the case, some of us might be able to help there. Peace to you, Shankari Danilo Jezernik <danilo.jezernik wrote: Thans to all for your advice. Devi Bhakta: what you wrote under second number is great. Thank you. It give me to think on all. What i'm going to do is whait and continue in my dayly practice. Then when i will have some money i will go on my own. In my apartment. Then i could do sadhanas any time i want. Thanks to all for response, and all you have helped me. I'm not in school and i dont need social worker or any one. The best help is, that you help yourself, all alone, because you know yourself more than anyone. I will get a job from fev months, but the job will take me 8 hours a day. Imagine what some one can do in 8 hours. Well, i will take that job, and i will save money for my future. Have a nice day to all, Danilo 2007/6/27, joannapollner <joannapollner: > > If You are in school there should be a guidance counselor or a social > worker, running away never solves any problems on the contrary it > usually attracts the very situations You have been running away from. > Stay on your spiritual path with Devi I am sure You will receive > blessings and opportunities to further Your development. > > namaste, Joanna > > > > > Namaste: > > > > If you are underage, I don't think a guru would take you. It would > be irresponsible for them to do so. > > > > You might be able to get some psychotherapy without parental > consent. They can listen to you and teach you strategies for dealing > with stress, so that you can change your own life now. > > > > Meditation will do the same thing, but if you have no strategy for > coping with stress, sometimes it is difficult to cope. > > > > Peace, > > Shankari > > > > > > Namaste to all! > > > > > > I have a quaestion about runing from home. It's like that. I can > > hardly stay at home for even an hour. It's so intense and so > > negative.That is the biggest and realy the biggest limitation in my > spiritual growth. And even some friends are bigg limitation in my > spiritual growth. And what i'm asking is, if there are any ashrams or > sadhus who will take me (western guy) under their custody (that they > will teach me yoga and tantra and so on) and that they will happly > take me as a spiritual pupil? > > > > > > > > Please help! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 , Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree wrote: > > Hi Nora > Perhaps our friend is blessed with athletic feet. Why repeat your comments so many times? > JR > > If you check the group, I have deleted all the other messages when I found out about the multiple messages. Its not my intention to do so, the whole thing got freeze when I tried to post it. My apology if my message is becomes an irritant to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Namaste Shankari Kali: I'm from slovenia and here are no temples. I buy a book Gayatri: The Highest Meditation<http://www.amazon.com/Gayatri-Meditation-Sadguru-Sant-Keshavadas/dp/0\ 710304471/ref=sr_1_1/104-7576338-9217525?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1183013847 & sr=8-1>(\ autor Sadguru Sant Keshavadas) yesterday. But i'm asking myself if i can meditate on gayatri even if i meditate on Kali Ma. I will meditete on gayatri and on kali ma every day. Is that ok? Yes, there are some troubles in my religion which i'm practicing in my house, but that is something i must do myself. As Devi Bhakta sed: (2) A very wise guru once commented to me that the secret of sadhana in our tradition is not to achieve calm and focus in some controlled, artificial environment such as a monastery or ashram -- but precisely in the midst of the world's chaos. So that means, that I must achive something myself in that kind of enviroment. And that give me to think. Thank you Shankari Kali for your help anyway. Have a nice day and my god bless you, Danilo 2007/6/28, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali: > > Namaste Danilo: > Glad to help. You might talk to a Temple priest as well if you can. > Remember you don't have to walk this path alone. > > I would also suggest that you pray the Gayatri mantra for wisdom or even Ganapathi for wisdom and direction as well. > > Are you having trouble practicing your religion in your house? If that is the case, some of us might be able to help there. > > Peace to you, > Shankari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Namaste Danilo: In Hinduism the gods are not jealous of each other because they are really only one. Gayatri is the goddess of light, and she will bring you wisdom. Many times before we begin a practice to Kali, we prepare by saying the Gayatri 100,000 times. You can pray to whomever you want. Sometimes Hindus will have a household deity, a Vastu deity, and then they will pray to the planet of the day. Peace, Shankari Danilo Jezernik <danilo.jezernik wrote: Namaste Shankari Kali: I'm from slovenia and here are no temples. I buy a book Gayatri: The Highest Meditation<http://www.amazon.com/Gayatri-Meditation-Sadguru-Sant-Keshavadas/dp/0\ 710304471/ref=sr_1_1/104-7576338-9217525?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1183013847 & sr=8-1>(\ autor Sadguru Sant Keshavadas) yesterday. But i'm asking myself if i can meditate on gayatri even if i meditate on Kali Ma. I will meditete on gayatri and on kali ma every day. Is that ok? Yes, there are some troubles in my religion which i'm practicing in my house, but that is something i must do myself. As Devi Bhakta sed: (2) A very wise guru once commented to me that the secret of sadhana in our tradition is not to achieve calm and focus in some controlled, artificial environment such as a monastery or ashram -- but precisely in the midst of the world's chaos. So that means, that I must achive something myself in that kind of enviroment. And that give me to think. Thank you Shankari Kali for your help anyway. Have a nice day and my god bless you, Danilo 2007/6/28, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali: > > Namaste Danilo: > Glad to help. You might talk to a Temple priest as well if you can. > Remember you don't have to walk this path alone. > > I would also suggest that you pray the Gayatri mantra for wisdom or even Ganapathi for wisdom and direction as well. > > Are you having trouble practicing your religion in your house? If that is the case, some of us might be able to help there. > > Peace to you, > Shankari > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Namaste, That is great. Here is a quaestion which has apper when i woke up these mornning. I was woundering about worshiping Devi and Deva of chakras. Every chakra has its own Devi and Deva and everi chakra is higher point of consciousness. Every chakra has its own Kosha, Tattwa, Yantra, Tanmantra, Gyanendriya, Karmendriya, Bija, Loka, Yoni, Lingam, Granthi, Color Dhatu, Kshetram, Prana Vayu and so on. For instance Mooladhara Deva is Ganesha and Devi is Savitri or Dakini. Swadhisthana Deva is Vishnu and Devi is Saraswati or Rakini. Manipura Deva is Rudra and Devi is Lakshmi or Lakini; and so on. Here is my question: Can i worship those Devas and Devis of everi chakra at a time? First i will worship Ganesha and Savitri or Dakini; i will do sadhanas for mooladhara chakra, and so on. When i will complite in one chakra i will move on to the next chakra (that is Swadhisthana, where i will worship Vishnu and Saraswati or Rakini) and thene to the nex chakra where i will worship Rudra and Lakshmi or Lakini; and to the next until i get to the Sahasrara, where i will worship Shiva and Shakti? What do you think about that and how will you do that? Where do i have to be careful? What do you think about all that? God bless you all, Danilo 2007/6/28, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali: > > Namaste Danilo: > > In Hinduism the gods are not jealous of each other because they are really > only one. Gayatri is the goddess of light, and she will bring you wisdom. > Many times before we begin a practice to Kali, we prepare by saying the > Gayatri 100,000 times. > > You can pray to whomever you want. Sometimes Hindus will have a household > deity, a Vastu deity, and then they will pray to the planet of the day. > > Peace, > Shankari > > Danilo Jezernik <danilo.jezernik <danilo.jezernik%40gmail.com>> > wrote: Namaste Shankari Kali: > > I'm from slovenia and here are no temples. I buy a book Gayatri: The > Highest > Meditation< > http://www.amazon.com/Gayatri-Meditation-Sadguru-Sant-Keshavadas/dp/0710304471/r\ ef=sr_1_1/104-7576338-9217525?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1183013847 & sr=8-1 > >(autor > Sadguru Sant Keshavadas) yesterday. But i'm asking myself if i can > meditate on gayatri even if i meditate on Kali Ma. I will meditete on > gayatri and on kali ma every day. Is that ok? > > Yes, there are some troubles in my religion which i'm practicing in my > house, but that is something i must do myself. As Devi Bhakta sed: > > (2) A very wise guru once commented to me that the secret of sadhana > in our tradition is not to achieve calm and focus in some controlled, > artificial environment such as a monastery or ashram -- but precisely > in the midst of the world's chaos. > > So that means, that I must achive something myself in that kind of > enviroment. And that give me to think. Thank you Shankari Kali for your > help anyway. > > Have a nice day and my god bless you, > Danilo > > 2007/6/28, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali<shankari_kali%40> > >: > > > > Namaste Danilo: > > > Glad to help. You might talk to a Temple priest as well if you can. > > Remember you don't have to walk this path alone. > > > > I would also suggest that you pray the Gayatri mantra for wisdom or even > Ganapathi for wisdom and direction as well. > > > > Are you having trouble practicing your religion in your house? If that > is the case, some of us might be able to help there. > > > > Peace to you, > > Shankari > > > > > > > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on > TV. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Namaste Danilo: That's a wonderful idea. Start with Ganesha. Ganesha is always worshipped first even amongst tantrics. Peace, Shankari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Namaste Shankari, So i can start with Ganesha and then go on to Vishnu and so on. But what if i first complite in Deva and thene move to Devi? Like, first i worship Savitri or Dakini and then move to Ganesha Deva or i first worship Ganesha and thene move to Savitri or dakini and then to Ganesha and when i come to Swadhisthana i first worsip Devi and thene move to Deva and so on, all the way to the sahasrara? What do you think about that? (more simple: 1. In mooladhara i first worship Savitri or Dakini and then move to Ganesha or 2. In mooladhara i first worship Ganesha and then Savitri or Dakini. and then when i've complited in mooladhara i'll go like that: For swadhisthana i worship first Saraswati or Rakini and then Vishnu. I meant to say that i will first complite in Shakti Sadhanas (exept in mooladhara, where i will first worship Ganesha, so that he will give me a permision for further sadhanas) and thene in Shiva sadhanas in everi chakra at the time. What is your opinion?) Om Shanti, Danilo 2007/6/29, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali: > > Namaste Danilo: > > That's a wonderful idea. Start with Ganesha. Ganesha is always worshipped > first even amongst tantrics. > > Peace, > Shankari > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Namaste Danilo: You can start worhipping Ganesha, and you can intone the mantras for each chakra to open them up if you want. I do think japa helps with concentration. What many gurus won't tell you is that advanced yoga meditation requires that you think of nothing. It's almost like a zen meditation. Japa to Ganesha, and maybe some yoga exercise can help open your spirit up. Some gurus will tell you that yoga exercise is only for meditation. Yoga exercise is healthful for your body in general. I went back to kundalini yoga and I've felt the difference in my meditation. Problem is Danilo that real enlightened gurus are extremely rare. They may only be up in the Himalayas somewhere or hiding in plain sight. You have to look inside to your inner godself for guidance. Peace, Shankari --- Danilo Jezernik <danilo.jezernik wrote: > Namaste Shankari, > > So i can start with Ganesha and then go on to Vishnu > and so on. But what if > i first complite in Deva and thene move to Devi? > Like, first i worship > Savitri or Dakini and then move to Ganesha Deva or i > first worship Ganesha > and thene move to Savitri or dakini and then to > Ganesha and when i come to > Swadhisthana i first worsip Devi and thene move to > Deva and so on, all the > way to the sahasrara? What do you think about that? > > (more simple: > > 1. In mooladhara i first worship Savitri or Dakini > and then move to Ganesha > or > 2. In mooladhara i first worship Ganesha and then > Savitri or Dakini. > > and then when i've complited in mooladhara i'll go > like that: > > For swadhisthana i worship first Saraswati or Rakini > and then Vishnu. > > I meant to say that i will first complite in Shakti > Sadhanas (exept in > mooladhara, where i will first worship Ganesha, so > that he will give me a > permision for further sadhanas) and thene in Shiva > sadhanas in everi chakra > at the time. What is your opinion?) > > Om Shanti, > Danilo > > 2007/6/29, Shankari Kali <shankari_kali: > > > > Namaste Danilo: > > > > That's a wonderful idea. Start with Ganesha. > Ganesha is always worshipped > > first even amongst tantrics. > > > > Peace, > > Shankari > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ______________________________\ ____ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Danilo, There is a small sloka for Guru worship - before start of all sadhanas. http://www.astrojyoti.com/vandanatrayee.htm (stop the ganesha and saraswathi mantras from playing to hear the Guru mantra alone - it happened at least on my browser - all of them playing at once). Quote__________ " Gurur Brahma gurur Vishnu gurur devo Maheswarah Gurur sakshat parambrahmah tasmi sri gurave namah " (For those who do not have a guru add the following verse for Guru Dakshinamoorti, i.e., Lord Shiva in his incarnation as the Guru of the world Nidhaye sarva vidyanam bhishaje bhava roginam Gurave sarvalokanam Dakshinamoortaye namah) End Quote________ G , Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: > > Namaste Danilo: > > You can start worhipping Ganesha, and you can intone > the mantras for each chakra to open them up if you > want. I do think japa helps with concentration. What > many gurus won't tell you is that advanced yoga > meditation requires that you think of nothing. It's > almost like a zen meditation. Japa to Ganesha, and > maybe some yoga exercise can help open your spirit up. > Some gurus will tell you that yoga exercise is only > for meditation. Yoga exercise is healthful for your > body in general. > > I went back to kundalini yoga and I've felt the > difference in my meditation. > > Problem is Danilo that real enlightened gurus are > extremely rare. They may only be up in the Himalayas > somewhere or hiding in plain sight. You have to look > inside to your inner godself for guidance. > > Peace, > Shankari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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